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Yeah, I don't see how you could charge for DLC on this one, given how gratuitously the same illustrations get recycled over and over.
To my undying shame I have to admit I only ever rented Muramasa for the Wii. By the time I decided to get off my ass and buy it I couldn't find a copy anywhere.
I'll buy 3 copies of this to make up for this mistake!
I'll buy 3 copies of this to make up for this mistake!
@stealth - DLC isn't universally bad, just commonly abused by big studios and big publishers. You just hate it because you can't collect it physically.
I'm not so sure this game would benefit from additional content, unless it introduces new techniques, enemy types, or locations that aren't rehashes of prior areas. By the time I played through with both characters, and completed the additional challenges opened up by finishing each respective ending, I had more than my fill of what Muramasa had to offer.
If I had a Vita, I would buy it just to support the release and play through the original game again on the go, but I'm sure I would grow tired of mowing through the same enemies with the same attacks again. In hindsight, I think the only thing that kept me going towards the end was watching in awe at how Momohime and Kisuke sheathe their swords.
If I had a Vita, I would buy it just to support the release and play through the original game again on the go, but I'm sure I would grow tired of mowing through the same enemies with the same attacks again. In hindsight, I think the only thing that kept me going towards the end was watching in awe at how Momohime and Kisuke sheathe their swords.
Muramasa ? On a non Nintendo system ?
HERESY !!! BURN TH3 DEV$ HAAAAAA MOAR H8 !!!
Anyone ?
Ontopic : <3 Momohime
HERESY !!! BURN TH3 DEV$ HAAAAAA MOAR H8 !!!
Anyone ?
Ontopic : <3 Momohime
@The Silent Protagonist,
actually no, we can hate on this. DLC is the same reason Little King's Story was remade for Vita - Konami admitted it themselves when they said that main reason this game existed was to sell additional DLC.
so the situation where publishers are willingly porting Wii/DS games to other platforms pointing at "lack of ability to sell DLC on Nintendo platforms" as the reason for that move is fuckin bullshit.
i loved both LKS and Muramasa, but right now i hope that both ports will fail miserably just to "kill" this sort of practice/business strategy.
furthermore i hope that Nintendo established some ground rules about DLC on their platforms so we won't end up with 60$ stripped games that will have 100+$ day one DLC like Tiger Woods games had on HD platforms(EA simply cut the content from the game since Wii versions had all of that DLC already on the disc and more) etc.
actually no, we can hate on this. DLC is the same reason Little King's Story was remade for Vita - Konami admitted it themselves when they said that main reason this game existed was to sell additional DLC.
so the situation where publishers are willingly porting Wii/DS games to other platforms pointing at "lack of ability to sell DLC on Nintendo platforms" as the reason for that move is fuckin bullshit.
i loved both LKS and Muramasa, but right now i hope that both ports will fail miserably just to "kill" this sort of practice/business strategy.
furthermore i hope that Nintendo established some ground rules about DLC on their platforms so we won't end up with 60$ stripped games that will have 100+$ day one DLC like Tiger Woods games had on HD platforms(EA simply cut the content from the game since Wii versions had all of that DLC already on the disc and more) etc.
Dang, I wish they'd re-release it on the WiiU instead. In either case, I at least hope that Vita owners will get a complete game instead of the rush-job Wii got.
As enjoyable as Muramasa was, the back-tracking was tedious, the translation was nearly monotone and the content was lacking. It took one step forward with the vastly stream-lined, uninterrupted combat system, but took several back with the lack of content and polish.
I'd have also preferred a dub, but that's because I'd rather not be distracted from action happening on screen more than anything else.
As enjoyable as Muramasa was, the back-tracking was tedious, the translation was nearly monotone and the content was lacking. It took one step forward with the vastly stream-lined, uninterrupted combat system, but took several back with the lack of content and polish.
I'd have also preferred a dub, but that's because I'd rather not be distracted from action happening on screen more than anything else.
@sofik88
So you hate the fact that the game is being ported to another piece of hardware because it means you can get new content for it?
So you hate the fact that the game is being ported to another piece of hardware because it means you can get new content for it?
@sofik - DLC turned out to work incredibly well for Fire Emblem: Awakening. Nintendo released the first batch free and then people kept buying it.
Considering how little effort FE DLC would require to make, I expect you'll be running to NOA with pitchfork and torch in-hand, correct?
Considering how little effort FE DLC would require to make, I expect you'll be running to NOA with pitchfork and torch in-hand, correct?
flintmech,
because it doesn't - cause that "content" should be already in the ported game not being sold once again. especially if Muramasa is planned as full priced Vita game. so the actual price of Muramasa Vita is higher than Wii version which was released 3 YEARS AGO.
i hate the idea where LKS is "remade" cut content from the original game(if what some people who tried the game said is true) just to sell it to you.
because it doesn't - cause that "content" should be already in the ported game not being sold once again. especially if Muramasa is planned as full priced Vita game. so the actual price of Muramasa Vita is higher than Wii version which was released 3 YEARS AGO.
i hate the idea where LKS is "remade" cut content from the original game(if what some people who tried the game said is true) just to sell it to you.
It is bad when the only new feature is dlc and they can milk people more yeah
Its a money grab
Lets look at the disgaea 3 vita port
It had all the dlc from the ps3 version, and guess what? NEW CONTENT THAT WASNT DLC
Its a money grab
Lets look at the disgaea 3 vita port
It had all the dlc from the ps3 version, and guess what? NEW CONTENT THAT WASNT DLC
Unlike most games/sequels that are created for the purpose of selling DLC, this game has proven itself to be intrinsically worth a purchase. Saying this is a cash grab is a huge stretch, especially if we don't know if they're charging for it yet!
If this game has a dedicated jump button (which wasn't even allowed in the Gamecube controller layout on Wii), then that is far and away the most important "feature" it could have. I'd actually want to finish the game, now!
If the DLC is shit and charged for, that'll suck, but at least you can't say it's an example of an incomplete game.
If this game has a dedicated jump button (which wasn't even allowed in the Gamecube controller layout on Wii), then that is far and away the most important "feature" it could have. I'd actually want to finish the game, now!
If the DLC is shit and charged for, that'll suck, but at least you can't say it's an example of an incomplete game.
And whatever happened to the talk of Odin Sphere and this game getting HD releases on PS3!? And that unreleased title, Dragon-something. I'd live to play the whole trio of games in silky smoothness without frame rate drops and with proper controller support.
@Dr Light ate your Magicite "I think the only thing that kept me going towards the end was watching in awe at how Momohime and Kisuke sheathe their swords." -> =O Me too...
I love the game and finished almost 100% but some of the repetition wore me a little, but i just love when they sheate their swords and the results screen pop.
I love the game and finished almost 100% but some of the repetition wore me a little, but i just love when they sheate their swords and the results screen pop.
I'd jump on the game if it didn't have so many comical amounts of boob-bouncing and not so much junk-bouncing in fundoshis to balance it out.
If they release the same game on Vita for $40 and then charge for DLC afterwards, that would suck.
If it's released with added features (not just 4 extra levels where you walk to the right and kill more things) then there's another reason for me to buy a Vita. The list is slowly growing :]
If it's released with added features (not just 4 extra levels where you walk to the right and kill more things) then there's another reason for me to buy a Vita. The list is slowly growing :]
Sad how gamers today always complain about backtracking, even in an adventure/RPG game. Are Chrono Trigger or Super Metroid bad because of backtracking? Gamers these days are just pathetic. Muramasa isn't a pure action game. If you want pure action, don't play it. Simple.
Sofik is just pissed its coming to a sony console :-P
The dlc should be included for free in the game.
The dlc should be included for free in the game.
I agree that it would be a disappointment if the Vita port is $50 AND they charge money for the DLC. However, being upset at the port existing so that DLC can be a possibility is stupid. I will still get this if it comes to North America, having thoroughly enjoyed it on the Wii, and I will get the DLC even if I have to pay extra because Muramasa is a wonderful game.
DLC for this game really doesn't appeal to me. It was perfect for what it was and how long it was. And for some reason I can only imagine the DLC being some boring arena-fight type of thing.
I hope there's an option to jump right into the new DLC, I already beat the game once with each character, so I don't really want to replay it again, but I'd love to see the new stuff.
Why is this only going on the Vita? This would be so much better on the PS3 in HD. I have nothing against it being on Vita persay, but a game like this should go on both, like Dragon's Crown.
@ucnslowdnce - I would think because Vita needs its own games SEPARATE from the PS3 in order to actually sell. Tying every release to PS3 does not give the Vita its own identity.
@TSP
Unfortunately, making the kinds of games that people will almost instinctively ask "why isn't this on the PS3" presents exactly the same issue.
Unfortunately, making the kinds of games that people will almost instinctively ask "why isn't this on the PS3" presents exactly the same issue.
@Dr Light ate your Magicite
The game would benefit from additional content. But not DLC. What it needs is more actual game, to fill out the "post-first ending" play period.
Once you get the first endings, getting the rest is nothing but a pointless, mindless grind to construct the newly available swords. And then you do it again for the final ending.
That's what wears out the game's welcome. Half the swords are pretty much worthless filler. (Arguably more than half, because there are duds even in the first play-through. But when going for the extra endings, they really are nothing but filler.) And then you have an endgame that is nothing but mindless grinding fighting the same enemies in the same locations that you were able to beat when you were weaker and worse at the game? With a few boss fights thrown into the mix.
The game would benefit from additional content. But not DLC. What it needs is more actual game, to fill out the "post-first ending" play period.
Once you get the first endings, getting the rest is nothing but a pointless, mindless grind to construct the newly available swords. And then you do it again for the final ending.
That's what wears out the game's welcome. Half the swords are pretty much worthless filler. (Arguably more than half, because there are duds even in the first play-through. But when going for the extra endings, they really are nothing but filler.) And then you have an endgame that is nothing but mindless grinding fighting the same enemies in the same locations that you were able to beat when you were weaker and worse at the game? With a few boss fights thrown into the mix.
I liked Muramasa, but it was pretty damn repetitive in temrs of its combat and recycled level design. Fortunately, it's graphics, music, and boss battles helped make up for it. Still, not sure why they're bothering to port a 3 year old title to PS Vita. Quite frankly, late ports are the last thing PS Vita needs right now.
I wasn't a huge fan of this game, wanted to love it but it was too floaty the combat didn't have good feedback when you were in it, felt like you were tickling the enemies to death with a feather instead of slicing them to pieces with a badass sword.
Who cares. Playing on anything smaller than a 55" sucks. Plus there's always dolphin. Plus playing games in public seems like social suicide.
@NSSboss People who would judge you for playing video-games aren't the type of people to hang around anyway. You self-conscious son of a bitch.
You're right. I'm extremely self-conscious although I'm not sure how that makes me a son of a bitch. You should hang out with some of the filth I've hung out with, I'd love to see how you'd end up. Not that I'm complaining. I've learned a lot about people. My psyciatrist tells me that not everyone is a piece of shit and the new friends I have keep telling me not to care what other people think but obviously old habits are hard to break since I'm responding to you. Whatever. Take it easy.
... Or you can just buy the very good Muramasa for the Wii and Wii U at this very moment for, like, $10 or less. That's what I did.
@doady
But that's because there's always something to find along the way for those games you mentioned. In Muramasa you're at Point A, Point B is the backtrack for a new item, and there's nothing new inbetween.
But that's because there's always something to find along the way for those games you mentioned. In Muramasa you're at Point A, Point B is the backtrack for a new item, and there's nothing new inbetween.
Since it's a port of a games that's a few years old, why not include the DLC with the game itself? It's not like this is going to be a mega blockbuster or anything... then again, maybe that's the reason. The Wii game I found servicable, but not quite the Metroidvania that people had been touting it up to be (including myself).
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