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This is awesome! Nintendo should be getting worried, which is good, because then maybe they will come out with something actually impressive. Makes me sad to type that, I'm a huge Nintendo fan...
They said that about the first PSP. the connection was so laggy that only tower defense games were playable. I call bullshit.
I'll believe it when I actually see it. I have a feeling this will be one of those things we look back on and say, "Remember when Sony said the Vita will be used as a controller?" And we'll be waiting for them to deliver.
Not really bad for either company if you think about it. If both the vita and wiiU take off, it will give decay more insentives to produce richer content for the sub monitor. Which in turn will make the wiiU controller look more viable.
This is incredible. Can you imagine? I would literally shit myself if I was able to play Uncharted 3 at home, then bring me Vita with me on the go and as long as I have some wifi I can link it to my PS3 and continue playing on the game.
That right there is pretty much the most awesome but of news they could have said. The best part is that we know it works. Some games on the PSP used this feature, like Lair, and it worked.
That right there is pretty much the most awesome but of news they could have said. The best part is that we know it works. Some games on the PSP used this feature, like Lair, and it worked.
This is neat and all, but aside from remote play(which is a definite plus), what reason is there to use the vita instead of a dualshock 3..I can see if playing local multi and has only one controller maybe, but a dualshock is going to be lighter, feel more comfortable and have a longer battery life. AND they are cheaper to replace for the raging gamers who throw,stomb, bite and defacate upon them when they get pwned.
wished they started exploring that more with the PSP. R2 and Retribution was the only integration i could of. and remote play only supported PS1 & PS2 games (fat when i tried.
If Nintendo allows me to do the same with the 3DS and the Wii U I'm almost certain I will buy one, a Wi U that is.
"Sony is looking into creating utility libraries that will allow PS3 developers to use the Vita's touch screen. How very Wii U of them!"
To be fair, Sony essentially announced this function at the exact same time as the Wii U reveal with their Ruin demo, so it isn't as if this is a feature exclusive to the Wii U later copied for the Vita.
To be fair, Sony essentially announced this function at the exact same time as the Wii U reveal with their Ruin demo, so it isn't as if this is a feature exclusive to the Wii U later copied for the Vita.
@Cbunn:
Unless I am mistaking, the PSP was released in 2004 used a very old wi-fi chipset for its time, the processor was clocked (at its peak) 333hz and the RAM was about 32mb. All of those specs and the fact that Sony had been making the PS Vita kind of made it so remote play did not work.
The PS Vita specs are upgraded from the ground up to make the technology to do these things. I have not heard anything from third parties supporting this but, there is bound to be something in the works if companies like Capcom dabble in things like Ad-Hoc Party.
Unless I am mistaking, the PSP was released in 2004 used a very old wi-fi chipset for its time, the processor was clocked (at its peak) 333hz and the RAM was about 32mb. All of those specs and the fact that Sony had been making the PS Vita kind of made it so remote play did not work.
The PS Vita specs are upgraded from the ground up to make the technology to do these things. I have not heard anything from third parties supporting this but, there is bound to be something in the works if companies like Capcom dabble in things like Ad-Hoc Party.
Another thing, I hope they will use this to include a Vita-gamer when playing split screen multiplayer. Being able to play Mod Nation Racers and the like with over four people locally would be tons of fun.
^ Apologies for the grammatical errors I made on my last post. As long as the gist is explained; meh. :)
Why does everyone act like this is something new, though?
PSP did this and it did it horribly. Most people never used it
Plus its not like you're going to get many developers on-board to make Vita compatibility for the PS3 games that are out now. Those games are done.
This would be exciting if the PS3 and Vita released side by side and the functionality was there at the start. This will be underutilized to the point of failure. You know, just like everything that comes when a piece of hardware is firmly established and developers are set in their ways with it.
I mean, how many devs used the PS2 HDD? Final Fantasy XI, RE Outbreak and some 2k sports games. Camera for PSP? Invizimals, that's about it.
And Nintendo proved this dozens of times over, that second analog nub might be one of the few things a platform maker gets away with. Playstation got away with the Multi-tap, after all.
But a new-standard mid-generation? Not bloody likely.
I'd be much, much more confident in the "transfarring" concept, but sadly support for that seems to be vanishing before Vita has even launched. Konami introduced it and then backs out months later.
Remote play as a fallback is just too shaky to put much faith in. Too many variables and things that could go wrong.
PSP did this and it did it horribly. Most people never used it
Plus its not like you're going to get many developers on-board to make Vita compatibility for the PS3 games that are out now. Those games are done.
This would be exciting if the PS3 and Vita released side by side and the functionality was there at the start. This will be underutilized to the point of failure. You know, just like everything that comes when a piece of hardware is firmly established and developers are set in their ways with it.
I mean, how many devs used the PS2 HDD? Final Fantasy XI, RE Outbreak and some 2k sports games. Camera for PSP? Invizimals, that's about it.
And Nintendo proved this dozens of times over, that second analog nub might be one of the few things a platform maker gets away with. Playstation got away with the Multi-tap, after all.
But a new-standard mid-generation? Not bloody likely.
I'd be much, much more confident in the "transfarring" concept, but sadly support for that seems to be vanishing before Vita has even launched. Konami introduced it and then backs out months later.
Remote play as a fallback is just too shaky to put much faith in. Too many variables and things that could go wrong.
The thing I wanted the most in Wii U was Remote Play, pretty excited this is going to be doable for PS3/Vita. If this works, pretty sure I won't look for a WiiU next year.
They're finally bringing remote control functions to PS3 digital video recording app Torne! Oh, FUCK YEAH!
@EKGProd:
There are patents out there from Sony which detail an Onlive type of connectivity between a 'handheld/mobile device' and a 'cell powered home console' but, they could just be patents.
There are patents out there from Sony which detail an Onlive type of connectivity between a 'handheld/mobile device' and a 'cell powered home console' but, they could just be patents.
I don't know why this is being compared to the Wii U. Ones a handheld the others a home console. I don't know its to early to judge anything since neither are out yet.
Why would this make you less excited for the wii u? Silent protagonist is one of the only people that makes sense on this thread.
So now I can buy $250 system to play my $250 system.
Can we focus on the features that make any kind of sense now, Sony? How about...Online, DLC, or maybe, oh I don't know, maybe we could see more than five minutes of a game? Is that too much to ask?
Can we focus on the features that make any kind of sense now, Sony? How about...Online, DLC, or maybe, oh I don't know, maybe we could see more than five minutes of a game? Is that too much to ask?
@KilvasKills
"However a direct connection could fix that."
Doesn't that defeat the purpose of "remote" in "Remote Play"?
"However a direct connection could fix that."
Doesn't that defeat the purpose of "remote" in "Remote Play"?
This was revealed a little while ago, but if this works really well, I may just get a Vita for the future. It would be neat to have games on the go and a fully functional controller.
So does this mean that they are going to lengthen the PS3's cycle to allow for new games to use this tech or is this going to be like Wii Motion Plus (something tacked on at the end but never taken advantage of)?
If this leads to Nintendo throwing the WiiU in the garbage and not trying to get us excited about 5 year old hardware I'm all for it.
So does this mean if I am on wifi anywhere in the world I can stream my PS3 games via Remote Play to my Vita??? If so, this MIGHT be the most amazing thing to happen in gaming since SCUMM!!!
@The Silent Protagonist:
-The Ps Vita new and the technology implemented in this way is new. Wi-fi readio signals and devices are out there but, the PS Vita doing that with PS3 is, by definition, a new thing. Was there something in the Roman Empire called PS Vita and did it have wireless remote play?
Actually, I would like to know since "Vita" is latin word, after all.
-Patches happen all the time. Pretty big patches that go in depth and restructure entire levels or controls get downloaded over wi-fi quite frequently.
-That is clearly not true. If that where a fact, the PS Move, Kinect, Wii Motion Plus, would never have support. As it stands, developers do not mind adding functionality to those technology and the PS Vita (unlike motion control peripherals) is a stand alone consumer device that will build an audience of millions of users. This is important because there is already and established multi-million audience that own PS3 home consoles. Those environment conditions would really favor developers taking their time out to patch or make all new games built around remote play.
-Haha! The "Transfarring" concept is still well supported in Japan but, SCEA and SCEE just are: a) not approving that certain outline /or/ b) Kojima Studios have not pressed for the idea to be revealed outside of Japan.
"Cloud saving" (which is a very different concept) is still supported by SCE and is found Dragon's Crown, Ruin, final Fantasy X, Dust 514, Street Fighter x Tekken, MVC3U and probably others (which are supported on Ps3). There is also Little Big Planet and Modnation Racers (for the PS Vita) which will support things like transferring levels and clothes bought/made from the PS3 versions. PS Vita versions for Little Big Planet and Modnation Racers will be different though. Double Eleven (headed by ex-R* staff members) is makng Little Big Planet for the PS Vita and the same studio that made the console version of Modnation Racers is creating the new Vita version.
-Your argument is invalid as proved by the current first and third party support for similar technology found in the PS Vita (i.e. Cross platform multi-player in Wipeout 2048). Handheld interaction with home consoles has advanced beyond the days of PSP and PS3. I do foresee Sony advancing the technology of wireless remote play (between PS vita and PS3). I only know the current software is in beta form but, Sony have showed enough interest to RND the concept and they will find developers who will make use of the tools. There will also be many venues by which Sony will market the Remote Play connectivity since the technology is found in two relevant devices: PS Vita and PS3.
-The Ps Vita new and the technology implemented in this way is new. Wi-fi readio signals and devices are out there but, the PS Vita doing that with PS3 is, by definition, a new thing. Was there something in the Roman Empire called PS Vita and did it have wireless remote play?
Actually, I would like to know since "Vita" is latin word, after all.
-Patches happen all the time. Pretty big patches that go in depth and restructure entire levels or controls get downloaded over wi-fi quite frequently.
-That is clearly not true. If that where a fact, the PS Move, Kinect, Wii Motion Plus, would never have support. As it stands, developers do not mind adding functionality to those technology and the PS Vita (unlike motion control peripherals) is a stand alone consumer device that will build an audience of millions of users. This is important because there is already and established multi-million audience that own PS3 home consoles. Those environment conditions would really favor developers taking their time out to patch or make all new games built around remote play.
-Haha! The "Transfarring" concept is still well supported in Japan but, SCEA and SCEE just are: a) not approving that certain outline /or/ b) Kojima Studios have not pressed for the idea to be revealed outside of Japan.
"Cloud saving" (which is a very different concept) is still supported by SCE and is found Dragon's Crown, Ruin, final Fantasy X, Dust 514, Street Fighter x Tekken, MVC3U and probably others (which are supported on Ps3). There is also Little Big Planet and Modnation Racers (for the PS Vita) which will support things like transferring levels and clothes bought/made from the PS3 versions. PS Vita versions for Little Big Planet and Modnation Racers will be different though. Double Eleven (headed by ex-R* staff members) is makng Little Big Planet for the PS Vita and the same studio that made the console version of Modnation Racers is creating the new Vita version.
-Your argument is invalid as proved by the current first and third party support for similar technology found in the PS Vita (i.e. Cross platform multi-player in Wipeout 2048). Handheld interaction with home consoles has advanced beyond the days of PSP and PS3. I do foresee Sony advancing the technology of wireless remote play (between PS vita and PS3). I only know the current software is in beta form but, Sony have showed enough interest to RND the concept and they will find developers who will make use of the tools. There will also be many venues by which Sony will market the Remote Play connectivity since the technology is found in two relevant devices: PS Vita and PS3.
@mythbuilder even if the ps3 lifespan were extended for feature, that dosen't mean everyone would have a vita. Meaning devs have two choices: alienate people without, or shoehorn in an unnecessary underutilized extra for those that have a vita.
Wii U will perform better because in this regard because that is the point of the system.
Every game will use the wii u tablet controller, but such cannot be done for the ps3 because it would split the fanbase.
So it will probably be the latter.
Also, Wii U will use wii controllers, so games that use wii motionplus are still a possibility.
Wii U will perform better because in this regard because that is the point of the system.
Every game will use the wii u tablet controller, but such cannot be done for the ps3 because it would split the fanbase.
So it will probably be the latter.
Also, Wii U will use wii controllers, so games that use wii motionplus are still a possibility.
I'm glad the Vita would be able to do this. The PSP had incapable hardware (especially with wireless a/b only, and limited ram/processing power) so it was understandable. I assume we can see much more awesome features from vita (especially due to it's quad-core).
Hand helds 4 ever, it's not a tech issue, but a marketing one. No developer in their right mind can just assume that everyone with a ps3 will have a vita, so why use up resources to accommodate for it?
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