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Videogames: They cripple your kids now photo

It's time yet again for another scientific study that may or may not prove videogames are detrimental to your health! The mainstream media is lapping up a brand new report that suggests videogame playing can cause physical pain to children, hurting their hands after just an hour a day.

"Around 170 children aged seven to twelve filled out questionnaires about their video game habits. Among the results: The younger the player the more significant the pain," writes ABC. "Also, those playing an hour or longer a day were more likely to have achy hands.

"Study details are being presented at the American College Of Rheumatology's annual meeting. It adds to a growing body of research showing video games, PDAs and cell phones can lead to repetitive stress and nerve compression injuries."

So there you have it. Videogames will make your hands fall off, as well as make your kids gamble, make your kids into killers, make your kids not want to play real guitars, make your kids fat and make them watch filthy sex scenes. Society as we know it is over, baby!


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Kreyg D's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/20/2009 02:04
Kreyg D
looks like we're all F-ed in the A. I just played about 4 hours of vidya games

::Gets out the ice for hands::

I feel better already, lets just hope my hands dont fall off :-(
Marty McMahon's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/20/2009 02:05
Marty McMahon
oh and writing papers for hours a day at skool doesnt hurt my hands either, somebody research that. screw the news
bleep's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/20/2009 02:16
bleep
Only The Dog Knows For Sure
BluDesign's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/20/2009 02:17
BluDesign
I can attest that after 22 years of continuous gaming my hands do hurt on occassion. Though that is more likely due to all the shiity ergonomics in older systems. It pains my hands to clutch the NES controller now. The 360 or ds3 are much better than that. Damn you old age!

Wait till you all get old and your crafty game reflexes fail ya and your eyesight starts to go. And bedtime at 6pm sounds like a good idea most nights.

Where am I?
bleep's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/20/2009 02:19
bleep
DVD is right, the newer controllers are like a warm buttered dinner roll compared the day old bread back in the day...
turbbit's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/20/2009 02:21
turbbit
If you play video games, you know that this study is true. And if you have kids, I hope you're a responsible parent and make your kids take breaks from their videogames once in a while. Make them take out the trash. Wash the dishes. Get me a beer.
shinryu108's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/20/2009 02:21
shinryu108
buy a stick :)
Ibutsu's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/20/2009 02:22
Ibutsu
It's a study! It must be right!
Cough's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/20/2009 02:24
Cough
Hand exercises!
youtube.com/watch?v=hUyMNyrOHJQ

Also, what's up with BBcode help?
Volomon's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/20/2009 02:46
Volomon
All you have to do is decompress, a mere 2 minutes per 15 minutes of compression. How do you do this magic? Stretch out your hand and pump your fingers in and out. This is the suggested amount of time. A true gamer has adapted by his teens and probably doesn't have to do anything.

Of course there's pain there's pain when you exercise too.
mr spooky's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/20/2009 02:54
mr spooky
From original gameboy to nintendo DS the buttons and d-pad have gotten smaller now.
JustLikeBuck's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/20/2009 02:59
JustLikeBuck
As somebody who played the Violin for 8 years, I can attest that they can fuck up your fingers a lot more than an ergonomic controller!

Could it be that with the rise of the Wii, it's not the fit of the controller that's important but the lack of tactile response in waggling that would naturally prevent over-exertion?
Forcepath's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/20/2009 03:20
Forcepath
Played video games since I was 4. I'm 24 now and fit as a flea. Sorry mass media.
Jon Bloodspray's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/20/2009 03:23
Jon Bloodspray
@JustLikeBuck

Same thing with guitar. I've seen people play guitar till their fingers bled. Never seen that happen with a game controller.
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/20/2009 03:28
Sexualchocolate
Personally as a guitarist of about 15 years I can tell you that playing the guitar fucks your hands up way more than game controllers! Callouses, cramps, stretches, but it all works towards giving you more articulate finger control (giggidy).

The thing is the older you get the more likely you are to release your "squeeze" on the controller during the cutscenes / menus etc.

The young kids though, I've seen them, they grip that controller like it's trying to escape! Squeeze the bastard harder as the game get's more tense.

But, nevertheless, this stinks of sneaky Natal "you don't need to injure yourself on a controller, just wave your arms around and IMAGINE you've got a steering wheel" Marketing.
Qraze's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/20/2009 03:34
Qraze
i "censored" and my "censored" hasn't ached in years, it yearns but never aches....


AND THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!
Brolsen's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/20/2009 03:48
Brolsen
Usually I agree with SCIENCE. But after 2 decades of gaming my hands are still in mint condition.
Jon B's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/20/2009 03:57
Jon B
Eh, I play Guitar Hero a bit too much. I KNOW my hands are going to be fucked up later in life.
TC101's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/20/2009 04:26
TC101
In other news: Sky blue, kittens adorable.
CaptainBus's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/20/2009 04:56
CaptainBus
Studies show that low test audience studies designed to prove some controversial theory really fill out news websites.

I suppose taking responsibility for your little snowflakes and given them the means to partake in a variety of healthy pursuits in moderation is just too much to ask?
Double J's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/20/2009 05:34
Double J
You know what, this is a good way to build character. It teaches children that, if there's something you really want to do, something you strive to achieve, you have to be willing to go through some pain to get there.

carpal tunnel is just a side effect of victory!
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/20/2009 06:01
Sexualchocolate
Good point Jon B - Guitar Hero, now even despite being used to playing real guitar, Guitar Hero gives me KILLER hand cramps. I love it but it fucks my hands up bigtime.

Normal controllers? Not so much,
Tarvu's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/20/2009 06:18
Tarvu
Yeah Guitar Hero makes most people's hands ache like hell.

Most repetitive things done with the hands can fuck them over, least of all ergonomic controllers, the 360 controller is a great for long gaming sessions. Sometimes I get insane spazy pain in my left hand when playing PC games, but that's mostly about posture. I pump my hands during loading screens subconciously for the win.


And I'm guessing that kid will be fucked up because he was allowed to play games too much during a time in his life when his hands were developing.
HOLY TACO's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/20/2009 06:18
HOLY TACO
Yeah, it's called RSI, nice research dipshits.
astroman's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/20/2009 06:19
astroman
This just in, exercise causes muscle pain in children. Is the Presidential Fitness Award to be blamed?
Super Drybones's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/20/2009 06:21
Super Drybones
"Around 170 children aged seven to twelve filled out questionnaires about their video game habits"

Because thats sure to be accurate in representing all children. Scientific Questionnaire of 170 = ALL OF THEM POSSIBLE IN UNIVERSE
Midgetsnowman's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/20/2009 07:08
Midgetsnowman
@sexualchocolate: and I suppose the sonymote will be 100% ergonomic and safe.
Nic128's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/20/2009 07:22
Nic128
With a wiimote waggling for an hour long, maybe. A regular controller, never.
MesonW's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/20/2009 07:37
MesonW
No cause for concern, this isn't a "games are bad" notion, just a study to help parents monitor for their childrens' overuse? Ye know, "My hand hurts Mommy". "Give it a break for a while and stretch a bit".

I actually tend to find it's the game rather than the controller, that sets my hands off. I used to game hours on end on Unreal Tournament on PC with no problem at all, but 30mins into a Quake3 session and my mouse hand really ached. All down to the controls - for some reason, my middle finger behaved differently in 'jump' mode than it did in 'alt-fire' mode :s

To this day, some games have given me problems on 360 too where most haven't, where my hands lean forwards, pointing closer to the floor.

As for the Wii relieving this problem... not for me. I find swinging my arms about in bowling to be very straining, as you've got no weight to prevent you swinging fast and hard whil not actually using much bicep muscle. The result? The blood rushes to my hands much more than in real bowling, and actually hurts unless I defiantly slow it down.
Jeremy Stiles's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/20/2009 07:43
Jeremy Stiles
Sometimes you gotta play hurt
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/20/2009 08:13
Xzyliac
Listen to Sexualchocolate! No seriously!

Guitaring not only fucks your hands up but it's expected. There are no "alternatives." Your teacher will tell you straight up "This is gonna hurt like a bitch. Deal with it pussy." I've never had pains playing GH or RB but I know people who do. Occasionally I get pains drumming but I just do what I do in real life and adjust my hands.

Meanwhile gaming will not kill your hands. Trust me. And the younger you are the worse it is? Dude I've been gaming since before I could do basic math. That's just bull.

And old people hands are gross Jim. No more old people hands headers.
Sonvar's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/20/2009 08:14
Sonvar
If we're talking old NES controllers I'd agree but the current controllers for Wii, Xbox, and PS are fine as they give a good spot to put your hands so you aren't cramping other fingers to hit buttons. If you really want a culprit look at computers and the typing people do on that on a regular basis in this world. Keyboards are more notorious for causing hand issues than anything else.
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/20/2009 08:26
Sexualchocolate
@ Midgetsnowman - Uh, yeah. Most controllers these days are pretty well designed for use. The 360 controller is (shame it doesn't charge- that's a fail), as is the PS3 controller, uh, I don't see your point?....
Carl Sagan's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/20/2009 08:32
Carl Sagan
So this study proves that consistently tense micromovements with your hands can lead to aching after hours of repetition?

Was anyone unsure about that?
The-Excel's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/20/2009 10:25
The-Excel
Mind, these questionnaires were filled out by 7- to 12-year olds. They don't know anything and could very well be exaggerating.
Ace Flibble's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/20/2009 10:29
Ace Flibble
I actually am living proof of this. I have trouble with my guitar playing because my ring and index finger bend outwards at weird angles - funnily enough, they fit a PSX controller perfectly. My fingers weren't always like this either.
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/20/2009 10:40
Holyetheline
BREAKING NEWS OMFG

Good thing I'm all grown up, my adult hands don't even shiver at the sight of a controller.
makesfive's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/20/2009 10:45
makesfive
ffs, if you're too retarded to take a break when your hands start to hurt, you get what you get.
Shadowiii's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/20/2009 10:58
Shadowiii
For once I agree with SexualChocolate on something. Being an avid pianist, violinist, and guitar player, I can say that screwed up my hands more then any game controller has.
EXCEPT the guitar hero controllers. I got Rock Band a while back and pretty much played it every night for a week on expert level songs, and I had such bad hand cramps I could hardly hold a pencil. After playing all those instruments, it was a fake plastic one that finally did my poor hand in.
I've never had problems with the later gen's controllers, which tend to be better formed, though I still find the duelshock a little small for my hands. The Gamecube and 360 controller have been the most comfortable for me so far. My NES controller just hurts now.
electrikmayhem's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/20/2009 11:00
electrikmayhem
"The younger the player the more significant the pain"

Clearly the fact that younger children have a lower threshold of pain can't explain this phenomenon!
NubPhiSh's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/20/2009 11:01
NubPhiSh
goood thing i masturbate a lot this keeps ma hands in good shape remember to warm up your hands before playing lol but seriously i have been playing games for over 17 years and i can still clock in 6 hour sessions with no complaints "D
denjunki's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/20/2009 12:22
denjunki
Look at the Dualshock 3. Then look at the Dualshock. No product evolution. Sony's latest controller has the ergonomics of a ten year old controller, and it's not because they did it right the first time.

Look at the Wiimote. They had to release that contoured condom because they chose design aesthetics over ergonomics.

Look at the 360 controller. Microsoft did learn from their mistakes with the original Xbox controller and improved the design and ergonomics, but they still dropped the ball on the d-pad, which is universally considered to be a POS.

Granted, we've come a long way from those horrible membrane pads in the Intellivision, or the iconic Atari joystick, but we're not where we should be. Society needs to stop thinking of gaming systems as toys. They're part of our lives now.
Qraze's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/20/2009 12:24
Qraze
i play the guitar and it only hurt during the first year when i was building my callouses up. really hot coffee will you too!
WarZombie's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/20/2009 13:48
WarZombie
Really, it depends on the person. In my Halo 2 hayday, I would game for 10-12 hours straight, and 99% of the time my hands wouldn't hurt (There was always those times when they would, but those were few and very far between). Also, doing this experiment on kids and yielding these results is almost Captain Obvious worthy. Kids have smaller hands as opposed to older people, which means they have to stretch more to get a proper grip on the controller. Doing this long enough means, you guessed it, HAND PAIN.

I know the media is out to get video games sometimes, but these is really just that obvious.
DrCGP's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/20/2009 13:56
DrCGP
The blame it on the video game bid again. Video games are not only corrupting, teaching to steal, sodomizing and selling drugs to little kids, but know are also giving them Carpal tunnel syndrome and Arthritis...Hmmm...It's like Six Degrees of Separation but with video games instead of Kevin Bacon. Hey Jim! Can we link Barack Obama's Nobel Price to a video game?
Rosseh's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/20/2009 15:10
Rosseh
My wrist aches and my fingers are sore from practicing guitar. DAMN YOU Rock and Roll!

On a serious note. I was thinking about this the other day and I think there is more too it than just the blame game. If you take a stereotypical mother, she basically abhors anything that would result in danger to your life, injury, slight discomfort or simple inconvenience. There are a large number of people who believe having a really boring and long life is better than having an awesome short life.
zgerhard's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/21/2009 00:44
zgerhard
im sure this nervous stress and whatever comes from any repeated activity such as playing piano, real guitar, or drawing.

in other news, playing soccer a lot can give you shin splints. physical pain by soccer!? BAN THIS FILTH
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