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wow...this is some bullshit. He commited suicide why? Might be harsh, but he just sounds like a loser. I love my video games, I play them all the time, am I addicted...no
now porn....thats a different story...
now porn....thats a different story...
Eloquently stated, and your cohort was equally good.
Negative anchor points to Mr. Mook, who could do nothing more than spout tired pong jokes.
Negative anchor points to Mr. Mook, who could do nothing more than spout tired pong jokes.
The audeio is misplaced x3. But ya there are a lot of holes in this whole thing and a lot did not get said that should of been said and the whole thing kind of leaves a bad taste in your mouth.
Interesting way to spread word on the new girl gamer web site btw.
Interesting way to spread word on the new girl gamer web site btw.
damn....they shouldve dedicated the whole show to that one debate. i was really getting into it when the guy had to cut off.
also, they mispelled you blogspot.....
also, they mispelled you blogspot.....
Wow you really got cut off.. and that mom's a psycho. I hated that "Well because you're a gamer you're going to watch your kids more carefully!" Uh no.. she should have watched HER kid more carefully since she DIDN'T know about video games. She said he turned into a completely different person and didn't do anything about it? I think she lacked as parent because she didn't get him the help he needed before he took his own life. You did a great job girlfriend. It's a shame they cut you off before you got to finish. =/
Wow. EQ mom speaking out, a reporter frightened of something within her control, and the lovely Miss Winterburn to speak up for us. YAY for TV coverage! But that female reporter was not to my liking. She seemed like she had something up her ass.
I live in Hamilton and have watched the show several times... Most of the time they argue about ridiculous things and the examples they use are generally poor. You can't really do this subject justice in 5 minutes. It's like trying to read War and Peace in an afternoon. You just can't cover it all.
Dude, Hamilton represent! I was actually interviewed by these guys a few weeks ago, the topics was drugs in high schools, i got my 2c in but they cut most of what i said :D
That woman was considered an expert? She said some of the most ignorant and mis informed things I have ever heard.
God, I hate these damn discussion segments. No one ever gets to make any point and the host was a complete and utter douche.
God, I hate these damn discussion segments. No one ever gets to make any point and the host was a complete and utter douche.
Nice job.
I feel bad the guy killed himself, but you can't blame a game for that. You started to hit on the point (and it sucks you got cut off) that anything can be addicting and to try to place the blame solely on the game is really not right.
And the Halo footage was a nice touch by the news station... way to be objective there. =/
I feel bad the guy killed himself, but you can't blame a game for that. You started to hit on the point (and it sucks you got cut off) that anything can be addicting and to try to place the blame solely on the game is really not right.
And the Halo footage was a nice touch by the news station... way to be objective there. =/
ok i'm an addict i admit.
one comment that angered me was when she said the game was designed to be addictive as though thats unusual, um gambling and smoking are both designed to be addictive. MMO's are fun but i always need an addiction to an mmo to be bothered to play it, the company does need to make money after all and addiction is the only way they'll get money from me. I must say though the only mmo that ever really hooked me was wow and that was incredibly short lived when i stopped after 2 months.
one comment that angered me was when she said the game was designed to be addictive as though thats unusual, um gambling and smoking are both designed to be addictive. MMO's are fun but i always need an addiction to an mmo to be bothered to play it, the company does need to make money after all and addiction is the only way they'll get money from me. I must say though the only mmo that ever really hooked me was wow and that was incredibly short lived when i stopped after 2 months.
Also, great job out there. Stickin' it to the dumb ass news reports.
I honestly do not know how some of these people were ever considered journalists. They're such morons.
I honestly do not know how some of these people were ever considered journalists. They're such morons.
I must commend you for taking on this spot on CH. I'm local to Hamilton, and try to avoid watching Mark "Windbag" Hebscher at all costs for reasons such as this. It sounded like they wanted to stir the pot of video game propaganda with some sorry tortured soul that wants to allow others to learn from her mistakes. But sadly, it's Everquest's mistake, and not the mother, as I think she is mostly to blame.
But good job for getting some of your valid point across. One day maybe they'll let you get all of it across.
But good job for getting some of your valid point across. One day maybe they'll let you get all of it across.
You and the professor managed to bring up valid points leaving the everyone else to make lame comebacks/jokes. Good Shit.
That Mark guy was twitchy as hell, they should have kept talking to you Faith, you don't have any tiks
In all honesty if her son couldn't tell the difference between everquest and the real world, after living for 19 years within the real world before ever picking up everquest then there are some deep rooted issues at work here.
He must have been super sheltered.
He must have been super sheltered.
People who get to sucked into games like WOW or Everquest, or basically any other game, usually have other problems to begin with. A lot of times they have low self esteem, poor social skills, and lack of direction in their lives. The games aren't the problems, the games are what people are using to escape their problems instead of dealing with them. No one kills themselves because they play a game too much. If that lady's son committed suicide, he obviously had other problems.
As an expert at living in Southern Ontario (I've done it for 18 years! so far no failing) let me say I've never heard of that channel.
I feel sorry for her son but games weren't the problem.
The most depressed kids in my school are the ones who's PARENTS mother them and don't let them drink until there like 18 the kid was obviously screwed up because of her not the game and she knows it she's just not addmitting it.
It's like if someone didn't have sex till they were 20 then they were depressed about it so they looked up porn and killed themselves.
The most depressed kids in my school are the ones who's PARENTS mother them and don't let them drink until there like 18 the kid was obviously screwed up because of her not the game and she knows it she's just not addmitting it.
It's like if someone didn't have sex till they were 20 then they were depressed about it so they looked up porn and killed themselves.
What are you talking about? I was mothered, smothered, and I only got addicted to crack and corner hussels...
Did that woman say that thousands of people were committing suicide over games? I do believe that's what I heard.
The worst part about any news broadcast getting a hold of anyone is that they have to turn everything into a story. They do this by overstating. Do something as a routine, maybe every other day and they call it an obsession. It's all a play of words and a seeming control over the wrong section. They're attempting to hold the knife by the blade and not the handle, and going through that route - they're not going to do much in the way of enjoying sliced apple.
Now, they recite gaming addiction to be a growing problem, yet this has appeared in countless forms in the past. It's just the newest trend for media to point to to make some headlines. Yet the way I see things from my eyes is, is this an actual addiction? Or is it a play on an extreme lack of self control.
If anything is growing, it's interaction with electronics in general - something very new to humanity. But just because it is new doesn't mean it's a problem. I, for one, do not believe that anything new that is done for recreation should be seen as a problem unless it is severely damaging the persons mental capacity. We are not talking about someone doing lines of coke for an 8 hour high a day. As the old choiced words of wisdom said. Anything in excess can be bad for you. Video games apply to this no more than running, football, television, writing, arguing. You name it, it's bad in excess. This is the same old process in modern term. But when will the media pick up on this bit of knowledge that should be very well known in our well educated age? Not sure I will see the day even until the day I die.
The worst part about any news broadcast getting a hold of anyone is that they have to turn everything into a story. They do this by overstating. Do something as a routine, maybe every other day and they call it an obsession. It's all a play of words and a seeming control over the wrong section. They're attempting to hold the knife by the blade and not the handle, and going through that route - they're not going to do much in the way of enjoying sliced apple.
Now, they recite gaming addiction to be a growing problem, yet this has appeared in countless forms in the past. It's just the newest trend for media to point to to make some headlines. Yet the way I see things from my eyes is, is this an actual addiction? Or is it a play on an extreme lack of self control.
If anything is growing, it's interaction with electronics in general - something very new to humanity. But just because it is new doesn't mean it's a problem. I, for one, do not believe that anything new that is done for recreation should be seen as a problem unless it is severely damaging the persons mental capacity. We are not talking about someone doing lines of coke for an 8 hour high a day. As the old choiced words of wisdom said. Anything in excess can be bad for you. Video games apply to this no more than running, football, television, writing, arguing. You name it, it's bad in excess. This is the same old process in modern term. But when will the media pick up on this bit of knowledge that should be very well known in our well educated age? Not sure I will see the day even until the day I die.
I'm really starting to get sick of this tired old debate. When can we get a new scapegoat? I already know it's too much to ask that people stop looking for something to blame other than themselves.
Again, ignorance = fear = deflected responsibility.
I'm so tired of this shit. I'll say it, I don't feel one bit bad for HER that her kid killed himself. In fact, if there is such thing as an afterlife, I would bet he's screaming at his mother right now saying "Maybe if you took an interest in what I was doing or tried to understand it, maybe I wouldn't have gotten to the point of killing myself so someone would show a positive interest and acceptance of my life"
Call me heartless, but I'll bet you anything that was the root of the problem or close enough to it. It's sad that kid killed himself and pathetic that his mom took the easy way out and used his death to martyr her cause.
Video games don't make kids violent and neither do they cause addition anymore then a violent movie, book or painting. Deprive a kid of love, attention and respect and you are sure as hell gonna get one that tries to escape that and/or becomes violent as a way to get the attention they want.
I don't even have fucking kids and I understand this shit.
Good job Faith, it's too bad that reason and responsibility doesn't make a good news story.
I'm so tired of this shit. I'll say it, I don't feel one bit bad for HER that her kid killed himself. In fact, if there is such thing as an afterlife, I would bet he's screaming at his mother right now saying "Maybe if you took an interest in what I was doing or tried to understand it, maybe I wouldn't have gotten to the point of killing myself so someone would show a positive interest and acceptance of my life"
Call me heartless, but I'll bet you anything that was the root of the problem or close enough to it. It's sad that kid killed himself and pathetic that his mom took the easy way out and used his death to martyr her cause.
Video games don't make kids violent and neither do they cause addition anymore then a violent movie, book or painting. Deprive a kid of love, attention and respect and you are sure as hell gonna get one that tries to escape that and/or becomes violent as a way to get the attention they want.
I don't even have fucking kids and I understand this shit.
Good job Faith, it's too bad that reason and responsibility doesn't make a good news story.
ban everquest? why exactly? too much enjoyment is a bad thing now i guess. i enjoy video games so let me play video games. i enjoy smoking crack so let me smoke crack. i enjoy slapping toddlers so let me slap toddlers. the anchors enjoy touching themselves to the sound of their own voice so let them. why cant they just let us all have fun.
grats on the TV appearance. I didn't even realize there were still support groups for Everquest. Talk about kicking a dead horse. And for the mom who's son committed suicide sometimes it takes alot to get on TV and spout your ignorance.
Congrats, Christina...it’s a damn shame that you were cut off. As others have mentioned, I’m sorry that Woolley’s son killed himself, but that seems like an anomaly to me — more the exception than the rule. You certainly don’t have thousands of MMO gamers killing themselves, that’s for sure. I don’t know that you could classify video game addiction as a disease — is gambling addiction a disease? I mean, alcohol/drugs/cigarettes/etc. are different — they involve chemicals that alter your state of mind. Sure, gambling and video games elicit responses from your brain in the form of pleasure and such, but I don’t know about classifying them as diseases. Either way, I feel as if most people who become addicted to things have some sort of tendency to do so, like a personal weakness (or, as you mentioned, “a hole in their lives”.
Awesome, Faith, I think you did a good job of getting the main point through in the beginning. I could just imagine the lady rolling her eyes as you said it.
It's unfortunate that she will just never get it. She will never understand why she was the problem and I just hope she doesn't have any more :P
It's unfortunate that she will just never get it. She will never understand why she was the problem and I just hope she doesn't have any more :P
Well done, you should of just said "hey he's playing an MMO, what were you expecting?!" lulz.
You need to be more forthright, just push your point in there like that lady she kept butting in what people were saying.
You need to be more forthright, just push your point in there like that lady she kept butting in what people were saying.
that bitch blatently lied. She said that they has psychologists on staff and designed Everquest specifically to be addictive. that is just retarded. They designed the game to be fun, to be rewarding. They didn't have this idea to make an addicting game.
Yes, people can become addicted to video games, just as they can ANYTHING. maybe that mom should have done a better fucking job raising her child instead of blaming a video game. I am all for educating parents about video games and educating them on how to be a better parent. But i am not for the false accusations against video game designers, that is bullshit.
Yes, people can become addicted to video games, just as they can ANYTHING. maybe that mom should have done a better fucking job raising her child instead of blaming a video game. I am all for educating parents about video games and educating them on how to be a better parent. But i am not for the false accusations against video game designers, that is bullshit.
that and why are we still talking about EQ? the people that are against video games are always 8 years behind the curve. They talk about EQ on addictive games and teh talk abut Doom and Mortal Kombat with violent games. These people that are against video games should at least bring something relevant to the fucking table.
I thought reporters and interviewers were supposed to be neutral. This is so dumb, of course they try to make it addictive, everyone making entertainment tries to make their product addictive.
Great work, Faith.
Living in the Hammer myself, I steer clear of CHCH on TV or any of their "reporters" when I see them. CHCH is on the same level of journalistic integrity as a high school gossip column, they're only looking for the sensationalism of any story. Reporting actual news in Hamilton hasn't happened in any media format for at least a decade(with the exception of small magazine named The View).
Woe to intelligent dicourse :(
Living in the Hammer myself, I steer clear of CHCH on TV or any of their "reporters" when I see them. CHCH is on the same level of journalistic integrity as a high school gossip column, they're only looking for the sensationalism of any story. Reporting actual news in Hamilton hasn't happened in any media format for at least a decade(with the exception of small magazine named The View).
Woe to intelligent dicourse :(
I do believe there can be something addicting in games, but not because of something inherent in the game. Like Christina said, people can use it as a form of escapism or catharsis, whereby they become addicted to the freedom of the imaginary world the game creates.
Secondly, I think that doctor guy hit the nail on the head with the whole "reward schedule" tidbit. People can become addicted to gaming for very much the same reason people get addicted to gambling, etc.
In any case, we're talking about a pre-condition to the gaming addiction that arises, which is important to attributing causes.
So, for instance I would be happy if there were medical conditions known as "escapist disease" or "reward schedule disease" that dealt with the motivations a person has for doing something. In this case, you're looking at a broader picture and gaming addiction is just one manifestation of these diseases, and is not the source of the disease. This shifts the focus and blame away from games, while allowing all of us to admit that gaming can be addictive for some people.
Secondly, I think that doctor guy hit the nail on the head with the whole "reward schedule" tidbit. People can become addicted to gaming for very much the same reason people get addicted to gambling, etc.
In any case, we're talking about a pre-condition to the gaming addiction that arises, which is important to attributing causes.
So, for instance I would be happy if there were medical conditions known as "escapist disease" or "reward schedule disease" that dealt with the motivations a person has for doing something. In this case, you're looking at a broader picture and gaming addiction is just one manifestation of these diseases, and is not the source of the disease. This shifts the focus and blame away from games, while allowing all of us to admit that gaming can be addictive for some people.
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