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He looks kind of like Michael Fassbender. And Dante looks kind of like the new Spiderman. And this trailer seems like it should be a movie.
As long as the game play is good I can try and overlook the fact this is in no way Devil May Cry in terms of personality or style. This is one of those instances of gaming (like the X-Com FPS) where I ask "why not just simply call the game something else since it has no connection that is not simply superfluous to the original material."
That fact is that if you changed the names of the characters you wouldn't think the game had ANYTHING to do with the Devil May Cry franchise. Reboot or or reimagining or alternate reality or whatever. The characters personalities are different, they look different, the feel different, the entire setting is different, they have different abilities and relationships, the only direct links are very lightly on the surface (red trenchcoat with broad sword. Blue outfit with katana and character names.)
Will the game be good? Well, only time will tell.
That fact is that if you changed the names of the characters you wouldn't think the game had ANYTHING to do with the Devil May Cry franchise. Reboot or or reimagining or alternate reality or whatever. The characters personalities are different, they look different, the feel different, the entire setting is different, they have different abilities and relationships, the only direct links are very lightly on the surface (red trenchcoat with broad sword. Blue outfit with katana and character names.)
Will the game be good? Well, only time will tell.
Stop that, Eternal. You're not supposed to have a brain. We must HATE this game for what Ninja Theory did to it. Hate, Hate, Hate!
All joking aside, I agree 100 percent. If this was a new IP EVERYONE will overlook everything negative thing that has been said about it. At the end of the day, I hope the game is good.
All joking aside, I agree 100 percent. If this was a new IP EVERYONE will overlook everything negative thing that has been said about it. At the end of the day, I hope the game is good.
So not only have they made Dante in to a complete and total emo douche but they've also somehow managed to ruin the best character in the Devil May Cry universe.
This game is being made by Ninja Theory. I know this game is going to surpass all others in this series.
In addition to everything else, I continue to be impressed by the voice acting in this game. Everyone I've heard so far sounds really good.
How does an angel get pregnant?? werent Demons just angels that went over to the dark side?? What the hell does this have to do with devil may cry?? Ninja Theory Capcom let you ruin
REAL Fans: I dnt like the re-imagined Vergil, i hate the re-imagined Dante, i do not like anything about this game.. i will not be renting it or purchasing it.. How does an angel get pregnant?? werent Demons just angels that went over to the dark side?? What the hell does this have to do with devil may cry?? Ninja Theory Capcom let you ruin 1 of my favorite franchises!!?? The Real DMC fans are not happy Capcom..
Capcom: LOL fans are mad at us.. oh thats right.. we still dont care..
Capcom: LOL fans are mad at us.. oh thats right.. we still dont care..
The more videos I see about this game, the more I want it. Great job so far Ninja Theory, I can't wait to get my hands on it.
Just out of curiosity are those the same voice actors for Dante and Vergil. I never got to play the earlier DMCs besides DMC4.
Also,
@Eternal+1
Also,
@Eternal+1
My point wasn't JUST that there is irrational hatred for the game, but that the irrational hatred is somewhat warranted and was brought upon themselves. The original fans have a vested interest in an existing franchise and this feels more like a disingenuous cash in on name recognition (sequels historically sell better than original titles in almost every case, that is part of the reason that Activision didn't end up dropping the "Call of Duty" name when they considered rebranding COD:MW2 into just Modern Warfare 2 as they lost the name recognition of Call of Duty.)
You can have a person who loves steak and loves fried chicken. That person goes into a restaurant and orders a steak off the menu with a side of french fries. The server brings him a plate of fried chicken and french fries, explaining that at this restaurant fried chicken is called steak. Now the fried chicken may be great, and the customer might even like it, but they came in expecting a steak and fries and the only the he got that he was EXPECTING was the fries. That is what DmC is. A possibly great game that is nothing like what the packaging claims is and should have it's label changed.
Keep in mind, I personally dislike the direction they took with the games characters regardless of the precedent that was set before hand by trying to attach an existing brand to it. The characters don't interest me, the setting seems sort of neat but the characters not so much.
You can have a person who loves steak and loves fried chicken. That person goes into a restaurant and orders a steak off the menu with a side of french fries. The server brings him a plate of fried chicken and french fries, explaining that at this restaurant fried chicken is called steak. Now the fried chicken may be great, and the customer might even like it, but they came in expecting a steak and fries and the only the he got that he was EXPECTING was the fries. That is what DmC is. A possibly great game that is nothing like what the packaging claims is and should have it's label changed.
Keep in mind, I personally dislike the direction they took with the games characters regardless of the precedent that was set before hand by trying to attach an existing brand to it. The characters don't interest me, the setting seems sort of neat but the characters not so much.
^- Forgot to add that I do hope the game is good and does well (in that order of importance) regardless of what I or others think of the loose (at best) connection to the game's named franchise.
Genre homogenization is rampant in the industry, and Capcom is eager to forego the sales of the series' technical action fans in favor of the mainstream, dumbed-down action players' money.
Why make survival horror when third person shooters sell so well? Why make precise action games when GoW sells so well?
Why make survival horror when third person shooters sell so well? Why make precise action games when GoW sells so well?
First the gameplay was dumbed down, then story sound like it is going to be worst then Devil May Cry 2, and they this..... motherfuckers ruined Vergil character along with Dante's. As a fan of Devil May Cry I hope this Ninja Theory piece of Shit May Die!
"If this was a new IP EVERYONE will overlook everything negative thing that has been said about it."
I kind of disagree with this. They'd have to change several major story elements and therefore potentially rebuild massive bits of the game if they made it a brand new thing.
Let's assume that as you and some people have said is true, and they just called this not DMC, but a new name. Say, Broken Mirror.
Broken Mirror is about the twin sons of an Angel and a Demon, who are on a crusade against demonic hordes that secretly subvert the world, and their method for fighting this madness is high octance sword/gun play, with the main PC being cocky, arrogant and a bit of a wildboy with a heart, and hid brother being cooler, colder, but generally speaking more efficient and in charge, but probably not as trustworthy. And our brother(probably the other too) can call upon his supernatural heritage and 'Trigger' the 'Devil' within.
I could go on. But if ^That Game came out as anything but a new DMC, everybody would be up in arms about how much the bastards are ripping off DMC and just repackaging it. At least this way they're reviving a franchise while they're at it, and this game looks pretty cool.
@Qtin - Get over your fucking self. You don't speak for anyone but you, so don't act as the voice of DMC fans, it makes you look like a prick. I was following Devil May Cry when it was still a Resident Evil spin off with Leon in the Dante seat(I don't suppose you think that Dante's hair looks like a slightly longer version of Leons by coincidence do you?). So I'm most definitely a 'real fan'. And real DMC fans know that the franchise died with 4. Fuck Nero. Fuck Dantes heart motif. Fuck KYRIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!
At least they aren't prepared to let the franchise rot forever like they've done with Megaman and Breath of Fire.
I kind of disagree with this. They'd have to change several major story elements and therefore potentially rebuild massive bits of the game if they made it a brand new thing.
Let's assume that as you and some people have said is true, and they just called this not DMC, but a new name. Say, Broken Mirror.
Broken Mirror is about the twin sons of an Angel and a Demon, who are on a crusade against demonic hordes that secretly subvert the world, and their method for fighting this madness is high octance sword/gun play, with the main PC being cocky, arrogant and a bit of a wildboy with a heart, and hid brother being cooler, colder, but generally speaking more efficient and in charge, but probably not as trustworthy. And our brother(probably the other too) can call upon his supernatural heritage and 'Trigger' the 'Devil' within.
I could go on. But if ^That Game came out as anything but a new DMC, everybody would be up in arms about how much the bastards are ripping off DMC and just repackaging it. At least this way they're reviving a franchise while they're at it, and this game looks pretty cool.
@Qtin - Get over your fucking self. You don't speak for anyone but you, so don't act as the voice of DMC fans, it makes you look like a prick. I was following Devil May Cry when it was still a Resident Evil spin off with Leon in the Dante seat(I don't suppose you think that Dante's hair looks like a slightly longer version of Leons by coincidence do you?). So I'm most definitely a 'real fan'. And real DMC fans know that the franchise died with 4. Fuck Nero. Fuck Dantes heart motif. Fuck KYRIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!
At least they aren't prepared to let the franchise rot forever like they've done with Megaman and Breath of Fire.
Wesker? Is that you?
@Conrad
" my immediate reaction was not to laugh out loud and that's pretty good for a character in this franchise"
But laughing out loud was the point
@Conrad
" my immediate reaction was not to laugh out loud and that's pretty good for a character in this franchise"
But laughing out loud was the point
People are complaining that this reboot has steered too far away from the "classic" DMC tropes. And yet, if it hadn't, all these people would be complaining about Ninja Theory's lack of creativity and how the reboot isn't a proper reboot.
Fucking fanboys are never happy.
Fucking fanboys are never happy.
@Tin Man
If you were a real DMC fan you'd also remember that DMC4 is the highest selling game in the franchise, and still got extremely solid reviews.
Stop being a fair-weather fan who just jumps on the coolest bandwagon.
If you were a real DMC fan you'd also remember that DMC4 is the highest selling game in the franchise, and still got extremely solid reviews.
Stop being a fair-weather fan who just jumps on the coolest bandwagon.
Lol at the Youtube coments. Fucking shitstorm.
Anyways, I'm honestly looking forward to this. I love the old games to bits, and this looks like it's going to be pretty damn faithful, and, when a franchise I love is rebooted, that's all I can ask for. People who are getting butthurt over it are really overlooking the surprisingly large number of similarities between this and the old games that still remain. (In my opinion)
Anyways, I'm honestly looking forward to this. I love the old games to bits, and this looks like it's going to be pretty damn faithful, and, when a franchise I love is rebooted, that's all I can ask for. People who are getting butthurt over it are really overlooking the surprisingly large number of similarities between this and the old games that still remain. (In my opinion)
@Eternal +1
The more I see of this game the more it might as well be a completely new IP. This is barely a shell of the series it's supposed to represent.
The more I see of this game the more it might as well be a completely new IP. This is barely a shell of the series it's supposed to represent.
I'm looking at this game in a comic book perspective; rather than view DmC as DC's 52, I'm looking at it as Marvel's Ultimate line, which doesn't supplant the 616 continuity but rather constitutes an alternative. Think of new Dante as Miles Morales, while original Dante is Peter Parker. I'm sure that sooner or later, Capcom will bring out a game set in the original DMC universe with the Dante that old fans love, while this will be more of a What If/Gaiden series. Also, I love Ninja Theory and I want this game.
The more I see of this game the more excited I get. Hope it breathes some new life into the series.
I wish I could take the anger and silliness of some of these comments, chop it up into a fine powder and snort it off a Paula Deen's buttery tits.
I wish I could take the anger and silliness of some of these comments, chop it up into a fine powder and snort it off a Paula Deen's buttery tits.
No matter how much they change the story, or how different the characters look, if this game doesn't retain that same sense of gameplay the other Devil May Cry games had, I see that as more of a reason to be upset... Though, unless we get a Bayonetta 2 announcement soon, it's not like there will be many alternatives in the meantime...
@Occams
The last game had a completely new protagonist with a completely different personality & move set. That was a breath of life for the franchise. Especially since most agreed, Nero was actually more fun to play as.
So I'm unsure why a complete overhaul of the characters was necessary. Hell I could even overlook Dante's new Nathan Drake look if he had more of the personality Original Dante had. So far that's not the case. I hope they surprise me but it's looking doubtful.
The last game had a completely new protagonist with a completely different personality & move set. That was a breath of life for the franchise. Especially since most agreed, Nero was actually more fun to play as.
So I'm unsure why a complete overhaul of the characters was necessary. Hell I could even overlook Dante's new Nathan Drake look if he had more of the personality Original Dante had. So far that's not the case. I hope they surprise me but it's looking doubtful.
@garethxxgod
"Especially since most agreed, Nero was actually more fun to play as."
Most liked that one grapple weapon he had, which easily could have been given to Dante or any other character for that matter. I don't recall anyone loving Nero for who he was.
"Especially since most agreed, Nero was actually more fun to play as."
Most liked that one grapple weapon he had, which easily could have been given to Dante or any other character for that matter. I don't recall anyone loving Nero for who he was.
this is looking awesome.
and to people saying "boo hoo this isnt DMC", no its not, its a reboot by a different team with the same basic story elements. get over it already. if you want old DMC, go play the old ones.
and like someone else said, if they gave it a different name, everyone would be complaining its ripping of DMCs story etc.
and to people saying "boo hoo this isnt DMC", no its not, its a reboot by a different team with the same basic story elements. get over it already. if you want old DMC, go play the old ones.
and like someone else said, if they gave it a different name, everyone would be complaining its ripping of DMCs story etc.
You kids who really think DmC had a lore beyond artists sitting in a room and modeling whatever they drew on their 8th grade notebook covers are really cute.
Looks great.
Looks great.
@esin
Probably not at first, but I thought atleast he added a counterpoint to Dante's irreverence. Determined and whiny but he was cocky in his own right too.The more I played through the game the more I liked him. I will admit though, I didn't play DMC4 until this year thus missing out on the eye of the storm of hate he probably recieved.
I realize also I haven't played DmC & I cannot judge it as a full product. I'm personally disappointed with what I've seen character wise so far. I mean didn't people get mad about Dante exhibiting no personality in DMC2? It might as well be the same case here so far.
Anyways, disappointed but not unwilling to atleast give it a try at release.
Probably not at first, but I thought atleast he added a counterpoint to Dante's irreverence. Determined and whiny but he was cocky in his own right too.The more I played through the game the more I liked him. I will admit though, I didn't play DMC4 until this year thus missing out on the eye of the storm of hate he probably recieved.
I realize also I haven't played DmC & I cannot judge it as a full product. I'm personally disappointed with what I've seen character wise so far. I mean didn't people get mad about Dante exhibiting no personality in DMC2? It might as well be the same case here so far.
Anyways, disappointed but not unwilling to atleast give it a try at release.
after seeing all the trailers for this game, i really think its a DMC, it looks as boring as DMC4 :/
So it went from social and political commentary to EDGY TEEN DRAMA. Incredibly stiff looking animations in that CGI to.
And good lord, so many comments here that read like Capcom shills.
That video of a dude getting an SSS combo spamming the same attack was all I needed, this game will trash, I still expect all reviewers to give it an 11/10 DANTE IS BACK BABY though as Capcom seems to be spending way to much on fluff pieces. Not to mention that 90% of reviewers heralding this as the 2nd coming clearly state they never played DMC beyond the 1ist which invalidates their opinion on the franchise as a whole.
@Elzam
Except it did have a lore, well established with the numerous characters, sparda, hell even the demons themselves, there's quite a lot of it even if its Japan only.
And good lord, so many comments here that read like Capcom shills.
That video of a dude getting an SSS combo spamming the same attack was all I needed, this game will trash, I still expect all reviewers to give it an 11/10 DANTE IS BACK BABY though as Capcom seems to be spending way to much on fluff pieces. Not to mention that 90% of reviewers heralding this as the 2nd coming clearly state they never played DMC beyond the 1ist which invalidates their opinion on the franchise as a whole.
@Elzam
Except it did have a lore, well established with the numerous characters, sparda, hell even the demons themselves, there's quite a lot of it even if its Japan only.
@Eternal Umm I think it's more like "here is your normal pretty good steak with regular fries." Then Ninja theory came along and was like "Here is your Kobe beef steak perfectly seasoned and with seasoned curly fries for the same price as your previous steak." "Real" fans of Devil May Cry aka "Steak" don't seem to like seasoning. Real fans of video games aka "food" do like seasoning as we recognize it enhances the flavors without losing the good things about what existed before. NO change of packaging needed as this is certainly still steak and fries just a much more refined version. Admittedly refined with added flavors you may not like. Also as a vegetarian my entire argument is invalid. :-D
Looking at this trailer just as a trailer ignoring the upset over the new direction. That just kind of came off as cheesy teenager-y drama stuff. The save the girl trope is way overused, and the way they delivered it made me cringe. Maybe overall the game will have good writing, but that part that the trailer showcases wasn't making the game look well written.
Yay! Vampire Diaries: The Game! Can't wait! Also it's good to hear Nolan North again. That guy doesn't get enough work.
Dante's appearance is one thing but, I'm afraid that they're going to nerf the fight mechanics. I think the weapon switch is being abandoned in lieu of a more Dante's InFerno Heaven/Hell hybrid gimmick instead of multiple fleshed out fighting styles. Having only two styles that are playable for the entire game gets boring fast. If there was some info I missed that proves me wrong tell me! Until then my pessimism might actually be justifiable.
Dante's appearance is one thing but, I'm afraid that they're going to nerf the fight mechanics. I think the weapon switch is being abandoned in lieu of a more Dante's InFerno Heaven/Hell hybrid gimmick instead of multiple fleshed out fighting styles. Having only two styles that are playable for the entire game gets boring fast. If there was some info I missed that proves me wrong tell me! Until then my pessimism might actually be justifiable.
Why the fuck is Virgil leading the order? NO!
I like the looking at this as an ultimate uni (comics) type of thing, but my DmC fanboy still comes out here and there. Hopefully this just a fun game in its own right, but after reading Kyo's comment and looking at said video, Im scared. Still, fingers crossed. I do love the city setting (it being a being too).
I like the looking at this as an ultimate uni (comics) type of thing, but my DmC fanboy still comes out here and there. Hopefully this just a fun game in its own right, but after reading Kyo's comment and looking at said video, Im scared. Still, fingers crossed. I do love the city setting (it being a being too).
My first blog posts on this site was about this game and how it would be wise to take a wait and see approach. I'm happy I went with that mentality. This looks actually rather interesting and I gotta say I like Virgil. He's fancy and dramatic, but he manages to avoid the over the top cheese that could have been brought to this role. Can't wait.
I really hate the tone and feeling I get from this. I prefer the over the top ridiculous camp to this bullshit.
@Sephiroth - And Resident Evil 5 outsold every other RE by a serious margin. Doesn't mean that game wasn't wank, and doesn't mean that fans of what the series was didn't hate the fuck out of it.
To put it bluntly: Your point is shit. Sales =/= quality. Never has, never will.
As for being a 'bandwagon jumper' child please, I don't even know what you're going on about. The 'cool' bandwagon when it comes to this game is most DEFINITELY the 'fuck the new game' one. And I made it clear I was never on a Bandwagon. I was following DMC intently from development of the original to when 4 dropped, and 4 was a turd in a punchbowl.
Although Kyo makes a good point, it must be said.
Social commentary = good.
Squabbling over a chick = shit.
To put it bluntly: Your point is shit. Sales =/= quality. Never has, never will.
As for being a 'bandwagon jumper' child please, I don't even know what you're going on about. The 'cool' bandwagon when it comes to this game is most DEFINITELY the 'fuck the new game' one. And I made it clear I was never on a Bandwagon. I was following DMC intently from development of the original to when 4 dropped, and 4 was a turd in a punchbowl.
Although Kyo makes a good point, it must be said.
Social commentary = good.
Squabbling over a chick = shit.
As a huge Devil May Cry fan, I feel betrayed. The series had great characters, awesome game play and it seems like they just threw it all away.
Call me crazy but I don't know why Capcom felt the need to reboot the Devil may Cry franchise. (It's like the Dc comics reboot--all the unfinished story lines *sighs* my heart broke) I would've like to see them continue from where DMC 2 left off or maybe giving Vergil his own game...Hes an awesome character; its just a shame we didn't get a chance to see him in the spotlight.
I'm not hatin on the game; I just feel like there's alot of wasted potential with the story and the characters....(come to think of it, this seems like a Capcom trend; but that's another story...)
Honestly,I don't know if I will play this. For me,the change is way to drastic.
Call me crazy but I don't know why Capcom felt the need to reboot the Devil may Cry franchise. (It's like the Dc comics reboot--all the unfinished story lines *sighs* my heart broke) I would've like to see them continue from where DMC 2 left off or maybe giving Vergil his own game...Hes an awesome character; its just a shame we didn't get a chance to see him in the spotlight.
I'm not hatin on the game; I just feel like there's alot of wasted potential with the story and the characters....(come to think of it, this seems like a Capcom trend; but that's another story...)
Honestly,I don't know if I will play this. For me,the change is way to drastic.
@Akeeko,
"I'm not hatin on the game; I just feel like there's alot of wasted potential with the story and the characters....(come to think of it, this seems like a Capcom trend; but that's another story...)"
Stop acting like there were really any characters and stories to give a shit about. DMC was never about story or character development, it was about over the top gameplay. If anything, Ninja Theory is doing a BETTER job at creating a coherent story while still retaining the over the top gameplay. Obviously, the majority of us have not played DMC, but all the gameplay trailers and the newly released trailer from Gamescom are doing a pretty fucking great job at showing how Ninja Theory is combining the two elements.
"I'm not hatin on the game; I just feel like there's alot of wasted potential with the story and the characters....(come to think of it, this seems like a Capcom trend; but that's another story...)"
Stop acting like there were really any characters and stories to give a shit about. DMC was never about story or character development, it was about over the top gameplay. If anything, Ninja Theory is doing a BETTER job at creating a coherent story while still retaining the over the top gameplay. Obviously, the majority of us have not played DMC, but all the gameplay trailers and the newly released trailer from Gamescom are doing a pretty fucking great job at showing how Ninja Theory is combining the two elements.
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