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Vaz: Violent videogames worse than violent movies photo

Lying hypocrite Keith Vaz is at it again. The corrupt Labor politician has once again brought up the subject of violent videogames, perhaps because it distracts everybody from his shady legal deals and questionable expense accounts. In any case, he wants cigarette-style warning labels on game boxes, and states that adult videogames are worst than films. 

"A film with inappropriate content is not interactive," bullsh*ts Vaz. "The point about video games, which is backed up by research from America, is that the player is part of the process. Players shoot and stab people in a videogame, and that is different. I accept that inappropriate content is wrong, wherever it is found, but videogames are different.

"If a young person gets hold of Modern Warfare 2, for example, they will be asked to participate in a terrorist attack; they will be asked to shoot at civilians in Moscow airport as part of the game."

Vaz says he's not a fan of censorship, and that adults should be allowed to play violent games. However, he still trotted out the Stephen Pakeerah case and claimed that the young boy was killed thanks to Manhunt, despite a conclusive police report saying that Rockstar's game had nothing to do with it.

So yes, yet more misconceptions and outright lies from Mr. Vadge. Until next time! 

Keith Vaz Warns Violent Games Are Worse Than Violent Films [Negative Gamer]








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timtheterrible's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2010 10:02
timtheterrible
"Lying hypocrite Keith Vaz is at it again."

You have to love a story that starts with this.
Pime Taradox's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2010 10:03
Pime Taradox
THIS is why we need the poscastle back. I miss hearing all about Keith Vaz being a dick!
jaycobo's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2010 10:03
jaycobo
Wow, that is just..ignorant. Awww its so ignornant.
ChaosTeaCup's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2010 10:03
ChaosTeaCup
Keith 'the spaz' Vaz should just fuck off.

Shamed MPs should resign. That's how it was in the old days, but politicians these days just wait for the fire to die off, then carry on like nothing happened.
Chronic Logic's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2010 10:05
Chronic Logic
I sort of agree with what he says, but I'd say that videogames are more able to influence a person than a movie can, since you both watch and interact with a videogame, while with a movie you just watch.
A Very Drunk Panda's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2010 10:05
A Very Drunk Panda
I don't know if it's because of this article about the man, or the supposed picture of him. But I'm, for the first time ever, getting the urge to punch an anti-violent game crusader in the dick.
PappaDukes's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2010 10:10
PappaDukes
I just came to post: "That header image is freaking amazing!"

Also,

Super Drybones's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2010 10:12
Super Drybones
KEITH VAZ HUNGRY!!!

KEITH VAZ EAT LIBERTY!!!

*KEITH VAZ PUT ON SUNGLASSES*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjRG2530rwI
Zerocoffee101's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2010 10:12
Zerocoffee101
I would love to be able to go online and play MW2 without having to listen to whining kids so yes by all means please keep the kids away from mature games.
DaedHead8's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2010 10:13
DaedHead8
Considering I redesigned the ESRB labels as a project for my Human Factors Class, I do support labeling violent games with something stands out a bit more than the current labels. However, arguing that video games are somehow worse than movies simply because they are interactive is just bullshit.

I've been disturbed by plenty of movies in my time, and very few video games. The John Travolta movie Swordfish where in the first scene he straps explosives and ball bearings to the stomach of a pregnant women is a great example. Nothing in video games has ever come close to disturbing me as much as that scene did.
Junta Baill's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2010 10:13
Junta Baill
@ Chronic Logic

I disagree actually. To me, games don't feel as real as movies do. Clicking on a thumbstick to knife someone is not as real as watching a movie that depicts the drama and horror of actually knifing someone in the back. I usually have stronger emotional reactions to movies over games.

But that's just me.

I don't think the interactiveness of video games makes them any worse. I think the fact that I can control my character in a game actually makes it better. But I have a conscience ... I actually feel bad playing No Russian.
Super Drybones's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2010 10:16
Super Drybones
Why not just put a warning label on vagina.

"This will make you do terrible, terrible things"
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2010 10:20
Xzyliac
@Super Drybones
It's implied when you look into her eyes about 5 second prior.
shinryu's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2010 10:23
shinryu
@xzyliac

her eyes. uh, right.
watermanx's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2010 10:24
watermanx
The sole reason I'm not voting labor
Ian Roberts's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2010 10:29
Ian Roberts
Violent Vidjagames caused SNOWMAGEDDON
dwtomek's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2010 10:32
dwtomek
I thought Kim Jong-Il was down with the videogames? Also I thought he liked him some huge-face old people shades?
Chronic Logic's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2010 10:34
Chronic Logic
@watermanx

The SOLE reason? Let's not be drastic here.
Mr Wrighty 987's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2010 10:43
Mr Wrighty 987
Ah Keith Vaz you handsome man.
John B's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2010 10:44
John B
This guy really needs to get whacked with a clue-by-four.
Battle-Axe's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2010 10:44
Battle-Axe
Playing violent video games allows me to take out aggression and enjoy visceral competition. It is mindless 'family friendly' television, movies and pop music that makes me want to kill people.
IV Backstab MC's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2010 10:45
IV Backstab MC
Ok I do agree that video games that are violent have slighly more of an impact thwn a. Movie but the fact is that the have barely an effect ata ll and this is just some dumbass trying to ride the whole anti videogame violence wave and get attention
falinter's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2010 10:49
falinter
Creepiest thing ever:
I was scrolling down the dtoid home page with that EXACT look on my face and when I got to that picture I could feel my face looking like his. And in that moment I knew what it felt like to be Keith Vaz.
hjd uk's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2010 10:57
hjd uk
I hate that guy.
HoodedMiracle's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2010 10:57
HoodedMiracle
We should replace cover art with a big-ass arrow pointing to the ESRB label.

It'd work.
Qraze's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2010 11:01
Qraze
fuck him. i bet he even thinks that mexico's bloody bloody war against drugs and cartels is not our (usa) fault.
Maurice Tan's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2010 11:03
Maurice Tan
Antichrist is worse than Call of Duty CONFIRMED!
jsutcliffe's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2010 11:11
jsutcliffe
Maybe if the UK would pull its finger out of its arse and properly enforce content ratings for games, young people wouldn't get their hands on MW2. Vaz is and always has been an utter embarrassment, even before he decided to make gaming his pet project.
socialnorms's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2010 11:11
socialnorms
@Professor Pew:
Rusty scissors clitoredectomy W00T!

I suspect Mr. Vaz is really Sterling's father, and this is all a game to them, and they bet large hunks of cheese that we'll fall for it.
odintal's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2010 11:12
odintal
i think i'll only let my kid play tennis games that way when she gets older she can win a grandslam pose for maxim and buy daddy a new car.
pascuz46's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2010 11:16
pascuz46
Clearly this guy should read some film theory.
John Johnson's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2010 11:35
John Johnson
I'm not going to read the source article, but can you really disagree with this man as he is characterized in this article? Or at least, are the things he says not debatable? Lets look at it sequentially:

1. "A film with inappropriate content is not interactive," - undeniably true.

2. "The point about video games, which is backed up by research from America, is that the player is part of the process. - the research may be sketchy or fudged, but I can't tell from this post, and again, the player is undeniably part of the process.

3. Players shoot and stab people in a videogame, and that is different. - It IS different.

4. I accept that inappropriate content is wrong, wherever it is found, but videogames are different. - Again video games ARE different. I guess the implication here is that video games are different in a more severe way, but this is his opinion. You may disagree, but I think you'd be hard pressed to find a person who doesn't think that a persuasive case can be built against video games as having a more severe detrimental effect on a person than film does.

5. "If a young person gets hold of Modern Warfare 2, for example, they will be asked to participate in a terrorist attack; they will be asked to shoot at civilians in Moscow airport as part of the game." - That's also true!

6. Vaz says he's not a fan of censorship, and that adults should be allowed to play violent games. - Do any gamers out there really disagree with this?

7. However, he still trotted out the Stephen Pakeerah case and claimed that the young boy was killed thanks to Manhunt, despite a conclusive police report saying that Rockstar's game had nothing to do with it. - Basically the only thing he says that seems truly misguided.
ScottyG's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2010 11:44
ScottyG
WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT MAN'S FACE??? It's all squished together and there's no chin! :(
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2010 11:45
Xzyliac
her eyes. uh, right.

God dammit is anyone around here not a douche during sex?
jean2317's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2010 11:50
jean2317
O_O *raises hand*
GamesAreArt's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2010 12:00
GamesAreArt
Tell vaz to go fuck himself.
socialnorms's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2010 12:13
socialnorms
@Xzyliac: You're assuming those little boys have had sex, or have had sex sober, or have had sex sober with a conscious partner outside of a basement frat party where they hired hookers to get people started and mass-purchased 151 to get people finished. This is the land of OMFG MOAR SEX IN GAMES after all.
Nicojay2's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2010 12:14
Nicojay2
The Keith Vaz 'the spaz' chart of negative influence on society places violent video games above violent films. Where does it place corrupt public officials?
For me the violence corrupt politicians perpetrate on the ideals of the country I live in rouse me to commit acts of violence more than any entertainment ever could. The entertainment does give me some fantastic ideas however, now that they (corrupt fuckers) have put me in the mood.
Jared Ari's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2010 12:15
Jared Ari
His words are full of so much persuasive bias. And since when is "America" a reputable research center? Games like MW2 have ratings so that "young people" can't buy them. My verdict:

Old fuck is fucking old.
gamesronlygames's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2010 12:18
gamesronlygames
whether or not you agree with his CONCLUSIONS it is true video games are way may immersive in the fact that you are the protagonist or antagonist of the story. Whether this personal involvement in the story lead to real life violence is a vast stretch and probably only true for the select few who are already mentally deranged and psychotic to begin with.
StapledTail's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2010 12:23
StapledTail
I never thought I'd say this but - I agree with Vaz's words. As much as I love games, it isn't crazy to assume that games have the potential to influence a person, especially if they're young. People defend video games more than they defened a lot of other things. If half the people that got rattled over negative vide game critqueing rallied together to support things that you know...actually effect peoples lives then you might not come across so poorly.

I wonder what Vaz thought about Rapelay...
TheTruth's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2010 12:33
TheTruth
I don't know this guy, but being a politician I'm sure you're right in his being dirty...still, despite who he is, what he said here is all sensible and hard to argue against.
Not avocating censorship, saying interactive to a scene has more effect than a passivly watched one, a clearer style warning sticker for parents not as into games as people who go to sites like this one, that some worthless kids get influenced by games (which he doesn't seem to blame the game itself for existing but just kids getting access...you can't argue those points and win that debate. Even if the guy is otherwise a POS, the suggestion is reasonable.
capitan's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2010 12:35
capitan
so its okay to see people kill other people and attempt to justify it AND get away with it in a movie? yet in a videogame when you kill people and then they try to kill you in response is not okay? it doesn't make sense.
Canthari's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2010 12:37
Canthari
@"5. "If a young person gets hold of Modern Warfare 2, for example, they will be asked to participate in a terrorist attack; they will be asked to shoot at civilians in Moscow airport as part of the game." - That's also true!"


But he is obviously insinuating that videogames will make people commit terrorist attacks, that's true?.

The only thing I can agree is that Videogames and Movies ARE different because the interactivity of the first's. However, if the interactivity makes them "less safer" than movies is just a personal belief, there were already several cases of people that commited violent attacks influenced directly by movies and such and that has been proved. Though I'm not saying that videogames are better than movies or anything, until we got a serious study that proves otherwise it's just our words against theirs.

By the way, that guy is a douchebag.
Cowboy TTop's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2010 12:49
Cowboy TTop
Keith Vaz is a douche, even in political circles, where his claims have been shot to pieces in front of his peers. He still has a big hard on for games though, and wheels out this lame, floppy dick eveidence once again, because truth is, he has nothing.

I still find it strange that society thinks shielding people from such violence will make the world a better place, when in truth the opposite is clear. Like it or not, is still a part of life and who we are, and while it shouldn't be celebrated as such, it shouldn't be denied or refused an outlet either.
Retroid's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2010 13:03
Retroid
Or Labour, even.

Vaz is a bandwagon-jumping ignorant cnut just out to score points for himself. It's very obvious from anything he says that he's got no clue as to the content OR effect of most games.

Also: we already have double-the-size-as-on-DVDs age ratings on 15 & 18-rated games.
John Johnson's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2010 13:14
John Johnson
@ Canthari - Is that his obvious insinuation? I thought that his point was somewhat more general, that the mowing down of civilians has a detrimental effect on young children's ability to assess the value of human life.

I don't want to defend the guy too much, because he does indeed seem a little douchey, but I think my problem with heaping condemnation on him is that I happen to agree with him here. Should young children or even teens be playing "No Russian"? Aside from the violence of MW2, the thing I worry about (amongst my peers, let alone amongst children) is that people are playing these games and accepting the role of the United States as a "world police" with the right to violate sovereign nation's borders at will. It truly takes a mature audience to understand how much of an issue that would be (in this respect, CoD4 was a worse transgressor than MW2).

I'm also inclined to advocate for him somewhat because to me one of the most loathsome qualities of many (certainly not all) gamers is this knee-jerk condemnation of anything they perceive to be derogatory to the realm of gaming. It reminds me of Scientologists, and if gamers were a more cohesive group, it would surprise me to find that the gamer community as a whole would be just as litigious as Scientologists.

I personally strongly desire for this hobby, past-time, or perhaps art form in which I am deeply invested to be taken seriously, and denying any and all criticisms of it out of hand is not the way to be taken seriously.
CrazyBlue's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2010 13:33
CrazyBlue
I almost had the opportunity of meeting this fool, but he happened to change his plans and be in Inida instead... I really wanted to ask him to try and justify his pathetic logic!
Nevi's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2010 13:53
Nevi
Quite how he became chair of the Home Affairs committee is mind boggling...
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