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Valve wants to put Left 4 Dead 2 mods on Xbox 360 photo

One of the main benefits of playing Valve games on the PC (aside from not getting screwed over on DLC and being free of Microsoft's evil clutches) is the fact that you get access to a ridiculous amount of mods created by a ravenous community of fans. While Xbox Live will never see that much freedom on its servers, Valve hopes to at least bring a little of the community's creativity over to home consoles.

"One of the things I'd like to do is to allow these modules that are being released on PC to somehow integrate with Microsoft's system," says Valve's Yasser Mailaka. "We'll have to filter them, we can't allow any copyrighted materials, so it's going to have to go through a process ... And you know, if they are a paid system, perhaps that could go back to the authors. I think that would be a great story."

Ha, yeah. That's one thing you can bet on. Microsoft is sure to expect us to pay for the free, fan-created mods. That's cool of Valve to consider paying the creators, but seriously, it's sad that we should be having such a conversation. I love that Valve is bringing Left 4 Dead to consoles, but sometimes I really do wonder if would be better served on the PS3 than the Xbox 360.








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RIMoonlight's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2009 19:24
RIMoonlight
Shame Micro$oft will probably charge for all the mods that Valve brings over to LIVE.
pedrovay2003's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2009 19:25
pedrovay2003
If that happens, then Microsoft won't sell their own overpriced content, so I don't see it happening. Unreal Tournament 3, anyone?
Tarvu's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2009 19:29
Tarvu
If it could count as user content somehow, maybe they could get away with it. Given the choice I would get L4D2 on PC so I can tool around with it like this.
Darren Nakamura's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2009 19:29
Darren Nakamura
I can dig it. I'm interested to see where this idea goes from here.
TheDreadHawk's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2009 19:32
TheDreadHawk
Once I get a new computer I'll be buying all of Valve's games on the PC. But as a budget gamer who enjoys his consoles, I'm really just stuck with the crap.
killatia's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2009 19:32
killatia
If the makers of said mods gets pay for it I guess it could be worth buying them on xbox live.
Los255's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2009 19:32
Los255
They will charge for it, guaranteed.

Unless they do seasonal title updates, that would be cool.

L4D 1's mods are awesome now, I can't imagine what 2's would be like.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2009 19:33
Xzyliac
God I hope someone can take what Harmonix is doing with RBN and apply it to mods.
Tarvu's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2009 19:34
Tarvu
@TheDreadHawk

Same, I am building a PC basically to play Valve games and tool around with at University.
TheDreadHawk's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2009 19:35
TheDreadHawk
@Xzyliac

That is actually a really amazing idea.
Tarvu's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2009 19:41
Tarvu
A similar system to user content on Halo 3 could also work, setting it to download on a website. I think Valve have a website or two...
HiddenAHB's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2009 19:43
HiddenAHB
What's the point if we are not going to be able to play with a Star Wars mod? Ya'know, running around in the dark shooting some droids.
Dangsterr's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2009 19:46
Dangsterr
Lemme guess...
Microsoft is going to charge 800 ms points per 3 maps

L4D2 Orange map pack 800 ms points!
Shirley Temple's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2009 19:46
Shirley Temple
I don't see the problem... for 2000 MS points.
Tarvu's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2009 19:48
Tarvu
@HiddenAHB

You just stopped me ever buying another Valve game for anything other than PC. Except anything with Portal in it, I'd buy that on anything and everything.
CRAZYAPE69's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2009 19:53
CRAZYAPE69
i disagree, it is possible, as was shown with the Far Cry 2's user created content, MS didn't make us pay for those. It's basically the same princible but a tiny bit more complex. It's not like you need to populate the map with zombies and ammo yourself, thats what the a.i director is for, they could just have a user rated hub for both formats where all the created material goes, high rated content get's filtered to the top while low rated maps are harder to find. Shadowrun showed us that both platforms can interact with each other, as well as some late night sessions with TF2, i often stumble upon games populated by maps modded from a pc, like the bridge from Half Life 2 as a TF2 map. Just please MS, don;t fuck this one up
10BobMarleys's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2009 19:55
10BobMarleys
OMG BIAS
Yehat's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2009 19:56
Yehat
Mods for L4D2 so I assume smaller things like custom maps, weapons, sounds, mutators and so on.

I wonder if this bars total conversions mods though, since right now there are some seriously inspired Source based mods like Empires, NeoTokyo, Eternal Silence, Zombie Master and Insurgency.
Brian Szabelski's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2009 20:05
Brian Szabelski
Microsoft will never let this happen. Nothing is free on Xbox Live Marketplace that's not a demo or crap.
Uzzy's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2009 20:44
Uzzy
Yeah, Micro$oft would never let Valve release anything for free. They are so evil, etc etc. Xbox Live sucks.

Oh.. wait. What's that? The Left 4 Dead Survival Pack was free? The one that gave us a whole new game mode, along with other things? Maybe, just maybe, Microsoft do allow free things on the Xbox Live Marketplace. Interesting.
StingingVelvet's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2009 20:48
StingingVelvet
Left 4 Dead is one of the very few games still a much better experience on PC (Dragon Age looks to be another). I played the 360 demo and thought it was rather horrid compared, and this was before mods were even a factor. It would be nice of MS and Valve to work together to improve the game experience on 360 the second go-round.
Qraze's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2009 20:50
Qraze
too bad valve is biased against the ps3. because it absolutely would happen on it. and if it does come to fruition on the 360, ms ain't gonna pay no creater jack shit, its their network and they charge you to be there.
matrixdude171's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2009 21:00
matrixdude171
Most likely $5 per mod. Oh, and none of the actual mod creators will ever see a dime. Yet another reason Microsoft sux balls
Ignominus's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2009 21:07
Ignominus
If Microsoft charges for it then we'll hit them with a petition. Yeah...they seem really effective these days.
Rintendo64's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2009 21:12
Rintendo64
I was hoping this would happen but I still think it's a bit of a pipe dream. I wouldn't mind giving the modders some coin but I think Microscrooge has enough of my money already
Miguelcar808's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2009 21:40
Miguelcar808
There's nothing better than to play has Samus Aran in a 2D:UT3 on a PS3.
It's a shame that 360 users will never get to play it :(
Adam11's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2009 21:40
Adam11
Please make this happen! That would kick major ass!
AFreindlyZombie's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2009 21:55
AFreindlyZombie
My computer wont run l4d. But if it did i would certainly have it for pc.Looks like iam going to have to bite the bulllet and pay anyways
pascuz46's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2009 22:08
pascuz46
Case and point Mr. Sterling- Unreal Tournament 3.
Cowboy TTop's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2009 22:36
Cowboy TTop
Cool idea. It'd certainly breathe life into the game. Lets hope MS don't cock block it.
liam12360's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2009 22:59
liam12360
Its good they'll have a process or something, since 90% of the community mods are absolute garbage.
dwolfwood's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2009 23:00
dwolfwood
I reallllly wanna convince myself that I should buy a 360. Being someone who's owned a: NES, SNES, Genesis, Sega CD, Game Gear, Game Boy, Sega Saturn, Playstation, N64, Virtual Boy, Game Boy Advance, Dreamcast, Playstation 2, XBOX, GameCube, Wii, PC, Mac, PS3, I consider myself to be unbiased.(The only reason I missed out on the 32X is cause it failed hard before I got the chance to buy it.)

But I just cannnn't. Given that I have a gaming PC, it has Halo 3/ODST/Reach, Gears 1 & 2, Fable 2, Shadow Complex, Dance Dance Revolution(I find it sad that this must be included as a viable reason to buy a 360) and that's about it really. I suppose I'd buy Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey if I had the chance too, and perhaps the seriously gay looking, but critically acclaimed, Viva Pinata, yet really, only half of those up there I'd only buy the latest installment. I keep hearing how, "the online kills ps3's" and "ps3 has no games" but I have to admit, I'm 200% satisfied with ps3's online experience and the 360 just doesn't have enough exclusive games to warrent $300(+$45-50/year)+tax. :(

I find myself at the point where I no longer have to choose between a system purchase, yet I'd still rather spend that money on games I'm barely interested in, like ModNation Racers and Brutal Legend.
Usedtabe's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2009 23:40
Usedtabe
I fully agree with Jim's statement about it being better served on the PS3, and I don't even have a PS3. I really hope Sony starts selling their consoles hardcore so MS can actually get a little competitive fear under their skin.
BananaCombOver's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 00:13
BananaCombOver
Hopefully there will a screening process. I don't know about you all but I do not want a million naked Coach/Rochelle mods.
vexed alex's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 03:14
vexed alex
Never going to happen.
CtMythic's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 03:25
CtMythic
4 words: Free Data Transfer Cable.

So long as you don't mod your gamerscore or avatar and stick to modding saves offline, it is essentially undetectable. If you choose to be the idiot that does make their avatar bright blue and unlock all the paid-for clothes, or use online mods for Call of Duty etc, and hex your GS to like 2 million or whatever, fuck you, you give savegame modders a bad name.
EdgyDude's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 06:47
EdgyDude
Naked Zoe on the X360 F*CK YEAH BITCHES!!
Pic0o's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 08:31
Pic0o
Yeah, Mod content is pretty much the last sacred pioneer of PC Gaming. Granted, PC wise with a good build, your graphics and performance will decimate a console.

I am super overdue for a new Gaming PC but it's not happening anytime soon. I am thinking about waiting to get L4D2 after I have a new PC, because you honestly loose so much extra, playing valve console games versus the PC variants.

All MS needs to do, is push that clot out of their asses, and allow stuff to be saved to a USB Storage Drive. This goes against the grain of their proprietary profiteering, but I'm sure they can keep half a cock block up, like restricting game installs to the 'official hard drive' only.

It's a shame Valve doesn't like the Ps3 for shit, because if Sony and Value worked together, and made a viable Mod and Free DLC presence on PS3 with an X-platform game, the MS hats would finally be forced to catch up and acknowledge that the lack of Mod support = inferior game.
Jon B's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 08:56
Jon B
I find it ironic that they are pushing for mods for L4D on the 360, whereas they could easily put them on the PS3.
Although if they do launch L4D2PS3, they'd probably block them out of spite.
Elsa's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 09:06
Elsa
Good luck to Valve... hopefully they'll have more luck with this than Epic did. Epic tried to bring some of the many UT3 mods to Xbox and finally gave up. PS3 owners had free access to any UT3 mods that were cooked by PC UT3 owners... and Epic tried to package some of the mods/mutators and cook them for the Xbox and bring them free - no go. I guess if Valve intends to charge money for the mods, Microsoft may be more willing to play ball. Such a shame.
ONI5's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 09:46
ONI5
Maybe they can look for a workaround using the Datel Memory Cards to upload maps from a computer. Anyhoo, if they had decided to host the files themselves they could still give it out for free.
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 13:52
Holyetheline
That would be so amazing to see mods come to 360 version! Too bad money is the only thing that moves anyone these days.
Boom-Shakalaka's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/10/2009 14:14
Boom-Shakalaka
While the possibility of installing mods into xbox 360 is something I have fawned over, the mere possibiliy of having to deal with the logistic side of updates, servers, and the overall staying power that is of the xbox have yet to prove to me otherwise that it will fall on its face. The modification of a game is not a map pack. This needs to be set into the mind of console gamers. A modification (mod) is alertering the core game assets to change key aspects of a game ie creating a mod that has Chet as the only survivor with the power of a tank and can carry all weapons (if im off feel free to post a wiki link). Mods such as Project Reality, Source Forts, Neotokyo, and others are not like mutators in UT3. More they are using the core game as an offshoot to create a brand new game altogether. Server side I wonder if their strategey will mirror chromehounds as in if a mod becomes unpopular then will its servers be shut down and the mod taken off the marketplace. Updates are another matter indeed, with mods patches are sent out to the public after a period of testing like every other pc-based developer. With microsoft however there testing plus microsoft certification, thus causing another team fortress 2 patch gridlock.

Overall if they implement a system that will benefit gamers and not milk modders of their enjoyment of making these type of things for free then let them eat cake, if not don’t try to beat a dead horse just for kicks.
Xhaloman03X's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/23/2010 08:10
Xhaloman03X
This is the most funny stuff ever i sent a message to Value's Gabel Neweil or i forget how to spell his name and i said to him i wish there was a way to put the origonal sorviors from L4D 1 to l4d 2 and i sent him a picture of a mod pic of zoey in l4d2 a day before this and i can't beleave it and if noone beleaves me than i will send you the message a gave to gabe
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