One of the main benefits of playing Valve games on the PC (aside from not getting screwed over on DLC and being free of Microsoft's evil clutches) is the fact that you get access to a ridiculous amount of mods created by a ravenous community of fans. While Xbox Live will never see that much freedom on its servers, Valve hopes to at least bring a little of the community's creativity over to home consoles.
"One of the things I'd like to do is to allow these modules that are being released on PC to somehow integrate with Microsoft's system," says Valve's Yasser Mailaka. "We'll have to filter them, we can't allow any copyrighted materials, so it's going to have to go through a process ... And you know, if they are a paid system, perhaps that could go back to the authors. I think that would be a great story."
Ha, yeah. That's one thing you can bet on. Microsoft is sure to expect us to pay for the free, fan-created mods. That's cool of Valve to consider paying the creators, but seriously, it's sad that we should be having such a conversation. I love that Valve is bringing Left 4 Dead to consoles, but sometimes I really do wonder if would be better served on the PS3 than the Xbox 360.
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Unless they do seasonal title updates, that would be cool.
L4D 1's mods are awesome now, I can't imagine what 2's would be like.
Same, I am building a PC basically to play Valve games and tool around with at University.
That is actually a really amazing idea.
Microsoft is going to charge 800 ms points per 3 maps
L4D2 Orange map pack 800 ms points!
You just stopped me ever buying another Valve game for anything other than PC. Except anything with Portal in it, I'd buy that on anything and everything.
I wonder if this bars total conversions mods though, since right now there are some seriously inspired Source based mods like Empires, NeoTokyo, Eternal Silence, Zombie Master and Insurgency.
Oh.. wait. What's that? The Left 4 Dead Survival Pack was free? The one that gave us a whole new game mode, along with other things? Maybe, just maybe, Microsoft do allow free things on the Xbox Live Marketplace. Interesting.
It's a shame that 360 users will never get to play it :(
But I just cannnn't. Given that I have a gaming PC, it has Halo 3/ODST/Reach, Gears 1 & 2, Fable 2, Shadow Complex, Dance Dance Revolution(I find it sad that this must be included as a viable reason to buy a 360) and that's about it really. I suppose I'd buy Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey if I had the chance too, and perhaps the seriously gay looking, but critically acclaimed, Viva Pinata, yet really, only half of those up there I'd only buy the latest installment. I keep hearing how, "the online kills ps3's" and "ps3 has no games" but I have to admit, I'm 200% satisfied with ps3's online experience and the 360 just doesn't have enough exclusive games to warrent $300(+$45-50/year)+tax. :(
I find myself at the point where I no longer have to choose between a system purchase, yet I'd still rather spend that money on games I'm barely interested in, like ModNation Racers and Brutal Legend.
So long as you don't mod your gamerscore or avatar and stick to modding saves offline, it is essentially undetectable. If you choose to be the idiot that does make their avatar bright blue and unlock all the paid-for clothes, or use online mods for Call of Duty etc, and hex your GS to like 2 million or whatever, fuck you, you give savegame modders a bad name.
I am super overdue for a new Gaming PC but it's not happening anytime soon. I am thinking about waiting to get L4D2 after I have a new PC, because you honestly loose so much extra, playing valve console games versus the PC variants.
All MS needs to do, is push that clot out of their asses, and allow stuff to be saved to a USB Storage Drive. This goes against the grain of their proprietary profiteering, but I'm sure they can keep half a cock block up, like restricting game installs to the 'official hard drive' only.
It's a shame Valve doesn't like the Ps3 for shit, because if Sony and Value worked together, and made a viable Mod and Free DLC presence on PS3 with an X-platform game, the MS hats would finally be forced to catch up and acknowledge that the lack of Mod support = inferior game.
Although if they do launch L4D2PS3, they'd probably block them out of spite.
Overall if they implement a system that will benefit gamers and not milk modders of their enjoyment of making these type of things for free then let them eat cake, if not don’t try to beat a dead horse just for kicks.