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Valve wants every game in history on Steam photo

Valve's Gabe Newell has disclosed some of his company's ambitious plans for the future of Steam, a future that actually involves the past. The PC game service has some large retro scheming in mind, as Newell himself revealed.

"...I expect we'll go back in time and eventually pretty much every game that's ever been available will be on there 24/7," confidently claimed Newell. When asked about old LucasArt's games, he was similarly eager.  "Sure, those are some great games. I mean there are some real problems, where the waters are muddied and companies have gone out of business. That makes things difficult."

Newell hints that he would like game developers to take a look at their roots rather than try and copy "the flavor of the month," and stated that playing old PC games, the kind that got he and many others into game development, was refreshing.

I can't think of a single valid argument as to why bringing back old adventure games and giving them a second life on Steam is a bad idea. In fact, anybody who would complain about such plans should be considered a pariah and a traitor to the crown, and should be executed in the town square at midday. So it has been decreed, so it shall be so. 

[With thanks to Aerox]








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Krayven's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/22/2007 11:55
Krayven
So they want to achieve gaming domination?
Cheeburga's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/22/2007 11:56
Cheeburga
Steam = Greater Gametap?
WDot's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/22/2007 11:57
WDot
Cheeburga: They have quite a ways to go. But I support them, if my PC can be a hub for every game ever, awesome.
Sabreman's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/22/2007 11:58
Sabreman
Excellent idea. Someone needs to take the initiative on both preserving and making available PC gaming history. Getting some of those old games up and running can be a nightmare, if not impossible. If they can be provided fully functional and reasonably priced I'd be first in line to grab them. The PC needs this kind of 'Virtual Console'.
WastelandTraveler's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/22/2007 12:02
WastelandTraveler
Steam, the beginning of the true digital distribution revolution.

That would be absolutely amazing to have the entire Lucas Arts catalog on steam. I would so buy for $150

@sabreman dosbox can fix anything :D just like they did w/ the old id Software titles on steam.
Chaosye's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/22/2007 12:08
Chaosye
Steam= Bigger Gametap, More Paying.
Scrixx's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/22/2007 12:14
Scrixx
Steam Takes over the world in 3, 2, 1..
xper's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/22/2007 12:16
xper
steam is an excellent service when it fucking works, which rarely happens around large game releases. when they get their shit together regarding that fact, steam will be the greatest game distributer ever created
foxhound009's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/22/2007 12:31
foxhound009
Steam is ok... but what will you do when you'll buy alots.. lots of games... and then your account gets hacked ;P ?
Turtule Soup's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/22/2007 12:35
Turtule Soup
@foxhound009
That would suck so much. I would like die.
Clockwork's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/22/2007 12:47
Clockwork
Now this guy knows how to run a business!
Kyousuke Nanbu's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/22/2007 12:50
Kyousuke Nanbu
Steam is total shit but this is a pretty cool idea.
Dr l0cke's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/22/2007 12:53
Dr l0cke
Lol? I buy all of my games on steam. Never had a problem with it.
JonDarkwood's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/22/2007 13:02
JonDarkwood
It seems like the logical progression of things :)

I fully support this!
DryvBy's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/22/2007 13:07
DryvBy
Not a bad idea since their older games run perfectly on XP and Vista. Now, will they be adding achievements?
Wedge's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/22/2007 13:12
Wedge
Yeeeeah... I kind of like the Game Tap format a lot more for older games. The fact they have a few modern PC games is a nice bonus.

Steam is kind of balls for buying stuff, since they still charge full retail for everything.
fyre's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/22/2007 13:31
fyre
@wedge

Yeah, but these are old games we're talking about. I seriously doubt they would charge much for them. I got all five Commander Keen games on Steam for $5.
Shoop's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/22/2007 13:43
Shoop
Does that mean I'm a traitor for thinking any digital distribution service that charges the same as a boxed copy is inherently evil? D:
Edarios's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/22/2007 14:03
Edarios
I've never had a problem with steam, i actually think it's a pretty decent service.
Knivy's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/22/2007 14:13
Knivy
That would be cool, especially if they run well on new systems, I tried playing Grim Fandango early this year and it just kept crashing =(.
Sabreman's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/22/2007 15:07
Sabreman
DOSBox is indeed great, and SCUMMVM is quite frankly wonderful, but there's still a certain amount of messing about involved, moreso than most people can be bothered with. Imagine just downloading this stuff and having it up and running in Windows in a couple of clicks - the emulation frontend completely masked from the user.
Diomeneus's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/22/2007 15:09
Diomeneus
Thief one and two!! Man I love those games...
zealot9802's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/22/2007 15:28
zealot9802
Monkey Island. FTW
Bob Muir's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/22/2007 16:30
Bob Muir
I eagerly await the mass beheadings.
WDot's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/22/2007 16:40
WDot
Sabreman: When playing classic Doom on Steam, everything is preconfigured. You literally just click the icon and it opens up DosBox with all the right settings and then that runs Doom. I imagine if ScummVM were used it'd probably work the same way.
Team Quiggan's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/22/2007 17:39
Team Quiggan
@Shoop
The main reason digital distribution isn't cheaper is because of retail. Publishers and regular retail chains hate digital distro, they don't get a cut.
Time for a hypothetical
if Valve sold Halflife 2 at stores for 45(15 bucks approx to Valve)
and on Steam for 30(30 bucks to Valve). People would more likely buy online, and the shops would lose out, 'screw them', you might say, but if they start loosing out, they will refuse to carry Valve products in their store. Right now, digital distribution accounts for about 50% of the profits(not sales, this is important, it shows that retail sells alot more copies to make up the difference).
Digital Distro needs to get a lot more popular before anyone gets the nuts to charge less for the online version then the box version.
gitrooman's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/22/2007 17:54
gitrooman
Correction: Valve wants every game in in history on steam THAT THEY CAN SELL. For all valve cares Abandonware games can be damned to hell if they cant make some cash off of it.
Wedge's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/22/2007 18:02
Wedge
That is the most self defeating logic ever. You're saying more people will go buy online if it were cheaper, but then they'd lose the retail support. And then you mention the sales differential based on numbers from the _current_ system. But if the problem of selling it cheaper is people abandoning retail stores, doesn't that kind of make those numbers irrelevant?

The reality is, people still _expect_ to pay retail prices, even when there is no overhead creating it. As long as that is the case, they have no reason to lower the prices.
Team Quiggan's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/22/2007 20:06
Team Quiggan
@wedge
Sorry you can't see it, but that is how it works, ask the folks who made Galactic Civilizations 2, in interviews they said they wanted to charge less for online, as sort of a fan service, they were stopped because retailers threatened to pull it if they didn't play ball. Their profits(not sales) were 50% online and 50% retail. It would be silly to assume that everyone would get it online, so they would still loose a large portion of the sales.

If a Publisher pulled the rug out from their retail market, they wouldn't make up the difference regardless of how much greater the returns they expect are. And you could kiss the very lucrative console market goodbye.

Will the growing Digital Distribution trend eventually take over retail, eventually, but right now, due to the low (_current_) acceptance, companies simply cannot afford to take that hit in sales.

I buy online, because it is cheaper for me, with the Canadian dollar as it is.
brad drac's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/23/2007 04:15
brad drac
->Team Quiggan: With stardock, as an independent publisher who very much need all the marketing help they can get, the situation is different. For valve, it would definitely be the retailers that would lose out by not carrying their games, because they ALWAYS sell well. I refuse to pay the same price for an gossamer series of ones and zeros as I would for a hard copy disk and (hopefully) a manual. I personally much prefer gametap's way of doing things.

Also, it's a buggy pile of crap.
Cutie Honey's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/23/2007 05:42
Cutie Honey
Taking over the world in 6 step.
Team Quiggan's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/23/2007 06:55
Team Quiggan
@brad drac

I see where you are coming from, and thats the main argument against digital distribution, you don't get the $0.50 DVD and the ever shrinking manual. Both of which I would forgo for the ability to have a library of games available anywhere with internet. The problem is the price is locked in a holding pattern until games are no longer hot in stores, after that, its often dropped. Sure Valve games always sell well, but if they are unable to sell either XBox360 or Playstation 3 versions, they would loose their new market that they are trying to tap.

Game tap looks cool, but it seems like a quick grab for games that didn't/arn't selling well, I might join, maybe. But I would rather give money to Valve then Turner broadcasting.


I find Steam to be more stable then most other similar services/MMOs.
Aaron Mxy Yost's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/23/2007 08:33
Aaron Mxy Yost
I'll stick with my GameTap subscription myself... I like the idea of paying my $10 a month subscription and having full access to try out as many games as I want, rather than spend a buck or two each for a retro game I might hate or get tired of in an hour.
LarkOhiya's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/23/2007 10:54
LarkOhiya
I agree with you there Mxyzptlk. some sexy men have found a way to get access to all of steams content for free. I call l33t hax, but it worked well enough.
Eschatos's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/25/2007 09:14
Eschatos
Glee!
Fading Star's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/26/2007 05:45
Fading Star
This is an ambitious yet great idea. I hope that this works out for them. I might try their service someday.
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