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Valve 'sure' it'll develop for PS3 in the future photo

Valve is pretty high up on the hit lists of PS3 fanboys, due in no small part to the studio's refusal to develop PS3 games. The company has refuted the idea time and time again, but today has come a step closer to admitting that Valve may eventually bring its titles to PS3. In fact, Chet Faliszek is sure it'll happen.

"Before we do anything on the PS3 we need to be able to support it in the right way," explains the Left 4 Dead writer. "But we’ll look at it, and I’m sure down the road we’ll do it."

Valve has often said that it hasn't developed for PS3 because it doesn't want to offer an inferior product like the shoddy Orange Box port, but this is the closest the studio has come to saying that it will seriously look into supporting the system. I'd say PS3 owners have gone on long enough without a chance to enjoy Left 4 Dead, so hopefully Valve will work it out sooner rather than later.

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Infamy's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2010 10:45
Infamy
I don't blame them for not giving a shit about the PS3, with accusations from rabid, raged PS3 fanboys calling them "lazy" even though they're a well respected and talented developer.
pascuz46's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2010 10:47
pascuz46
Okay, I played the orange box on PS3 and I had a pretty damn good experience. I didn't play the other versions, but besides the long loading times, I did not notice any other technical issues with it. Then again, I don't know much about the whole technical side of video games. My point is! I played the Orange Box on PS3 and I had a great experience and because of that, I really started to like valve and the half-life series. So if it wasn't for my ps3 and the "shitty port" I would of never have been able to play HL2 and got to experience that story. In closing Valve put L4D on ps3, simple as that.
sprldr's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2010 10:47
sprldr
Valve should stick to the PC, it's what they do best.
Strandli's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2010 10:49
Strandli
They shouldn't develop/port to PS3 if they can't do a better job.

But I buy Valve games on console anyway, how they update their titles and everything they do for the PC community is just too good to miss.
PappaDukes's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2010 10:49
PappaDukes
I love my PS3!
RRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
Shadowiii's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2010 10:53
Shadowiii
It makes sense, in a way. They are just being honest. Would we want them to make shoddy ports like Bayonetta or Ghostbusters for the PS3, or have them wait a while until they better understood the architecture and then released games for the PS3?
If anything, a single blu-ray with a Left 4 Dead 1+2 double pack on the PS3 in the future would be fantastic. Hell, L4D3 might be out by then. :P
king kong five's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2010 10:58
king kong five
This makes sense to me. I play all my Valve games on Steam anyways, but if I as only a PS3 owner I would rather Valve learn the technology before developing the games, rather than hand the games over to EA for them to port them.
KwikPwn's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2010 10:58
KwikPwn
Valve should stick it to the PS3, it's what they do best. :)
KwikPwn's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2010 10:59
KwikPwn
JK, L4D is awesome and should be enjoyed by all.
SnatchTease's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2010 11:02
SnatchTease
Shut your filthy whore mouth, Valve, and give us Ep3.
Corduroy Turtle's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2010 11:03
Corduroy Turtle
It's too late! Hasn't Gabe actually come out and said some really harsh things about the platform already? I think PS3 owners have already responded with a resounding "F*ck you, Valve".
Smo5000's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2010 11:05
Smo5000
it would be cool to see them make some new properties for ps3 and port over L4D

its understandable why they havent done so yet, valve rocks either way.
TonicBH's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2010 11:07
TonicBH
The last time Valve talked about the PS3 in a negative fashion was almost three years ago. I cannot believe PS3 owners are still holding a grudge over an off-the-cuff comment in this day and age.
Mr Pibb's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2010 11:14
Mr Pibb
Valve, all I ask for is Episode 3. Left 4 Dead, Portal 2 and whatever else you're working on would be nice too but as long as Episode 3 is on PS3 I will be grateful.
StingingVelvet's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2010 11:14
StingingVelvet
I am honestly surprised they don't make amazing PC exclusives considering Steam means they have a rather large vested interest in PC gaming being more popular.

Still, since I think all games should come out on all possible platforms I hope this happens for the PS3-only folks.
Pic0o's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2010 11:14
Pic0o
PS3 would be awesome to see some Valve on, as the MS Cockblocking of user content would be nil. I'd love to be able to fire up some mods off my PS3. Granted, the game would have to work well, before the mod gate opens up.

Keep in mind, I own a 360 and PS3. My reference for Mod love on PS3 can be sited with UT3, despite it's overall failure (hardly due to mods).
whateverthismeanstoyou's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2010 11:16
whateverthismeanstoyou
PS3 slowly becomes relevant again in the console gaming world.
jawshoeuh's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2010 11:17
jawshoeuh
@Infamy

Naturally their lack of PS3 support is due to hurt feelings over personal insults via teh interwebz. :)

@pascuz46

I also got the Orange Box on PS3 as I had no 360 or capable pc rig at the time and while I can see how it was a mildly inferior port due to loading times etc, it was still a great package that I played the hell out of.
MisterGrieves's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2010 11:17
MisterGrieves
Gee, that'd be swell.

Left 4 Dead is one of my favorite games of this generation.
Los255's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2010 11:17
Los255
Maybe they'll just port their own shit instead.
SnatchTease's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2010 11:18
SnatchTease
It would be great if they added Counter-Strike Source to the next "Box"
Aurain's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2010 11:23
Aurain
Valve don't make games for PS3 because they're not willing to port such an old engine to a new system. (New to that engine, not new console). They've expressed no interest in a new engine.

Valve are talented, but the fact they didn't take the opportunity to port Source to PS3 when the Orange Box was released is laziness. By learning PS3 with Source, they'd have much better compatibility with future engines due to expertise with the PS3.
It would only serve to Benefit Valve. And by not doing so, they've cut off a growing market. And let their own games reputation be sullied by a sub-standard port.
It's not "Fanboy" to accuse them of that. I would call it "Fanboy" to dismiss valid concerns and points purely because it's PS3 fans making that point. (Infamy, I'm looking at you.).
The fact they're still using a 6 year old engine for systems they're familiar with is further evidence of laziness, especially when said Engine begun to look aged 2 years ago.

Are Valve respected? Yes
Talented? Yes
Lazy? Yes
Self Destructive? Perhaps a little.

(Before some smart-arse says "Lol, ur anti-valve stfu and play some portal")
1. I had the Orange-box on PS3, and finished it. The port wasn't as bad as most people say, But it will have put people off Valve games.
2. I got HL2 on release day.
3. I got HL1 and Expansions prior to that, I also have it on PS2.
4. I have L4D1 and 2 copies L4D2, (360 and PC).

TL;DR: Learn to read.
dgschrei's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2010 11:27
dgschrei
Ok let me tell you how I see this:
As long as it isn't coming out of Gabe's mouth, it ain't really happening. He's the only one who really has a say in these kind of things and as an ex-Windows developer I would excpect him to keep very close to Microsoft because that's where he has his network built up.
If anything, 360 owners can be happy that there are console versions in existence for Valve games at all.
Mornelithe's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2010 11:29
Mornelithe
I wouldn't even bother if I were Valve. I have no intention of getting anything of theirs on my PS3. Made by them or not.

Now, that aside, PS3 owners have every right to be upset with Valve. Upset yes, rabid no. It's perfectly fine that Valve chooses to not support the PS3 for lack of in-house interest. They've been making games for allot longer on PC than on consoles, and given the 360's similarity in architecture, that's fine I get that. What's...absolutely deplorable, is the face Valve and it's employees have put on this debacle.

From the get go, they've never chosen to simply be honest about the system, or reign in the mouths of their employees. If they weren't willing to learn the system, which their inhouse staff isn't. Why all the commenting? Why all the negative press given to something you know so very little about? Why not simply say from the get-go, we don't have the manpower or the in-house interest to learn a third architecture, we may at some point in the future but it's not possible at this time.

Instead, what you have is someone puts a microphone in front of them and asks them a question about the PS3, and they start talking, and talking and talking about this system they haven't invested enough time in, to actually understand it's abilities. Yes, it's more difficult to program for, we know. We've heard that for awhile. Meanwhile Valve, a great...great many other mult-platform devs are managing to do...just fine. To say nothing of the in-house staff @ SCEA.

Point is, I just don't like Valve. I don't like their employees, and I don't like how they run their mouths first then try to smooth over ruffled feathers when they realize they've been giving a continuous finger to an install base that's now grown to over 33 million people.

Bravo Valve. And, as I said, don't bother.
TristanMike's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2010 11:31
TristanMike
Go ahead, my 60 bucks will never come to you. I'd rather give my money to a company like Naughty Dog, a very classy developer. Despite how "good" their games may be, there still is something to be said about developers (or any company for that matter) who takes pot shots at another company they're not even involved with. Then going and insulting the user base by insinuating that one user base "isn't ready/mature enough" for your material is just weak in my book.
Ganjookie's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2010 11:31
Ganjookie
Valve games are pretty good, but after the comments they made, Valve can suck my dogs choad.
SayWord's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2010 11:31
SayWord
I guess I would be considered a sony fanboy because I really prefere the ps3. But who gives a shit if valve bad mouthed the ps3. Any ps3 owner that won't buy valve games if released on the ps3 would be conplete idiots.
catsithx's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2010 11:33
catsithx
Well you want to make a good game for a good system right? Like Uncharted 1+2 and MGS4 and a few other exclusive titles for the PS3. You don't want shoddy work if your paying 60 dollars for a game you do want quality. That's all Value is saying. You just don't want to prt things over to make a buck sometimes. You want the gamer to enjoy stuff you make any buy more of your product when you make more wright? Not to say all ports are bad just you want to make sure you do it right that's all.
teke367's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2010 11:34
teke367
Not that I support fanboyism, but Valve really did bring that on themselves. I mean, they've basically acted like fanboys themselves when talking about Sony.

Me, I'm split on Valve. I loved Portal and Team Fortress, though I didn't like Half Life 2 (I'm not a big fan of FPS games, but I do like some a lot). I liked Left 4 Dead, but I didn't feel a need for the sequel. Most of my friends aren't gamers, don't have the game, or we just have different schedules. And that game is a lot different when you are playing solo, or with strangers. That's not really Valve's fault since they were going for a co-op games, but when it comes to dropping $60 I don't care was the goal was, I just care about how much fun I'm going to get from it.

I have a 360 and PS3, so this doesn't affect me much, but I'm happy to see more and more devs work multiplatform, if only so I don't need to buy two consoles next generation too.
Chronic Logic's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2010 11:46
Chronic Logic
Why must Valve be so biased towards PC gamers?! WHY?!!!
Jon B's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2010 11:55
Jon B
Regardless, I'm still going to be playing their games on PC.

Still, why they haven't ported Source over strikes me as really odd. It's not like all their games aren't just small tweaks of the same engine.
ParaParaKing's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2010 11:55
ParaParaKing
Considering the high sales of Left 4 Dead 2, porting it over to the PS3 could be a good idea.
taiki's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2010 12:04
taiki
Finally! Now make Half Life not suck
Miguelcar808's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2010 12:04
Miguelcar808
Gabe will deny all of this in 3...2...
Stephen Beirne's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2010 12:14
Stephen Beirne
Mornelithe, bravo. You speak my mind as well. As for SayWord, I and many other gamers have no intention to be content with just being consumers. I have almost no respect for Valve as a result of their deplorable ethic and I dare say I hope they soon discover their stick has a short end.
Kenneth K Chang's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2010 12:16
Kenneth K Chang
@pascuz46:
I also played The Orange Box on the PS3, and everything but Team Fortress 2 was a good experience. Some of the maps in TF2 are broken, we're getting no patches for the strange delay that happens when you shoot an explosive weapon (e.g. Soldier's rocket launcher, Demoman's grenade/sticky launchers), and we're getting none of the class updates or new maps that are giving Team Fortress 2 a hell of a lot more replay value.

And Valve can be considered lazy in that they are a bit unwilling to study the PS3's architecture for development for it.... But this is the best news about Valve and PS3 development! All we need now... is evidence of a new PS3 title by Valve. =D
SayWord's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2010 12:20
SayWord
@byronic man I completely understand man and it completely made it seem like valve where being xbox fanboys but in the bigger picture wasn't everyone hating on the ps3? And look at it now, business is just business no one including sony or xbox don't give a fuck about us. Only our money.
EternalDeathSlayer's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2010 12:24
EternalDeathSlayer
I don't blame them for not wanting to deal with it earlier. I mean, their games will sell less on the PS3, and cost more to make, so what's the motivation for them?

Of course by now you'd think they'd know how to make PS3 games more efficiently.
matty125's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2010 12:30
matty125
I don't see any reason why anyone should pressure them to make a game for the PS3 or any other console they don't want to.
artvandelay's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2010 12:34
artvandelay
Why do people care? All their games are better on PC and runs on almost any PC, there is no reason to play their games on consoles.
Rammstein's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2010 12:35
Rammstein
In this thread: Butthurt PS3 Fanboys.

In regards to the topic; VALVe is pretty much the best developer on the face of the planet. Hands down. Their titles should be played by everyone. You are not a true gamer if you purposely limit yourself to a single console for ANY reason.

DO MORE CHORES so mommy buys you the other consoles, FFS!
Observer's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2010 12:41
Observer
It's not just the PS3 that Valve tends to take issue with. They also don't think very highly of the PC platform either, or at least not anymore. They've largely become little more than Xbox 360 loyalists.

So Valve developing for the PS3? I'll believe it when I see it.
Corduroy Turtle's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2010 12:47
Corduroy Turtle
Ovserver: I'm holding back on calling you names.

They OBVIOUSLY love the PC more. Look at all the FREE AWESOME content that PC owners get. I think you could work just a <i>little</i> bit harder at <b>observing</b> things that are right in front of your face.
e-wrecked's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2010 12:52
e-wrecked
The blind loyalty toward Valve is the biggest mystery to me since the people blindly loyal to anything with Bungie's name. Valve makes basic meat and potato FPS games and I do have both systems and any of those PS3 only owning people, don't believe the hype of Valve fanboys who would have you think Left 4 Dead series was the greatest shooter of this generation. Left 4 Dead (either 1 or 2) is an average shooter with below average graphics.
Just like Halo, it's not a terrible game, just basic and average on all levels. Really not missing out. Valve is probably doing you a favor by lacking the developing talent to figure out the PS3. Saves you a few bucks on just-another-shooter.
SilversunFrenzy's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2010 13:12
SilversunFrenzy
Sounds like someone named e-wrecked couldn't be more wrong
Corey Buchillon's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2010 13:12
Corey Buchillon
e-wrecked

Come on man you can't possibly ignore what half life and half life 2 did for shooters back then.
teke367's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2010 13:13
teke367
@Corduroy Turtle, I'm not sure if this was his point, but I think Observer is referring to when Valve said that XBox live was tops when it came to online community.

I don't believe they don't care about PC gaming, by controlling Steam, I imagine they have a big interest in keeping PC gaming relevant.
pedrovay2003's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2010 13:25
pedrovay2003
If they haven't started already, then I doubt they will in the future.

And PS3 people who want Valve games get called fanboys? Gabe Newell is the biggest anti-PS3 fanboy on the planet.
Observer's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2010 13:26
Observer
@teke367

Thank you for bringing my point up for me. Valve may be dedicated to PC gaming. But it doesn't seem that they've really been acting like it as of late. Or perhaps in other words they seem to be putting a little too much emphasis on their support for the 360.
Observer's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/19/2010 13:28
Observer
And of course the open hostility that they've shown for the PS3 certainly doesn't help either.
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