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It's really sad that people are looking for racism in everything. Not only video games. What's even more sad is that people try to work their way around it by adding a mixture of characters to create racial diversity. Sometimes you create a story/game/movie/etc. wherein Asians, Caucasians, African Americans, Arabs etc. don't fit. That doesn't mean you're trying to be racist. And if you do use them it's automatically racism for some obscure reason. I don't get that shit.
@shawn: LMAO
I still think that whoever started all this crap should have their rights to free speech revoked. Simply moronic.
I still think that whoever started all this crap should have their rights to free speech revoked. Simply moronic.
das racis!
there are no asians/hispanics/polynesians/arabs/indians/turks/inuits/martians in l4d2! das racis! l4d2 should have all races and all ethnicities working together in harmony to eat the brains of the survivors.
there are no asians/hispanics/polynesians/arabs/indians/turks/inuits/martians in l4d2! das racis! l4d2 should have all races and all ethnicities working together in harmony to eat the brains of the survivors.
People who cry racism are usually the ones who are actively looking for it. The bad part is, they even have two black people to look "politically correct". The very fact that they have to include black people into the mix just to please people is stupid. They shouldn't have to. For what it is worth, the heroes could all be black, and it should not have mattered. But unfortunately, it matters.
I want racism on my ps3, and it is called gran turismo 5. There will be all kinds of races there, no?
I want racism on my ps3, and it is called gran turismo 5. There will be all kinds of races there, no?
Pretty sure that was an Arby n' the Chief reference in the first sentence!
It really goes to show that you can't do anything involving black people these days without some moron (usually a guilty white person) screaming about racism.
It's so sad how true this is these days. *sigh*
It really goes to show that you can't do anything involving black people these days without some moron (usually a guilty white person) screaming about racism.
It's so sad how true this is these days. *sigh*
Hmm, I guess I could see some comparison then.
"CEDA" Quarantine and some of the madness regarding moving people to shelter during Katrina could probably be drawn as a parallel of each other, at least regarding the potential for being perceived as inhumane or cruel. Both involve forcing people into a somewhere for an arguably good reason, regardless of their will.
Unfortunately, whether they're setting up a commentary or not, there's the potential for a thematic similarity. You know, with regards to everyone in an area. Not just in some racial treatment consideration.
Perhaps making that a race related concern is unfair, though. Is it really a racial determination if the people of your locale happen to be of predominately a particular race?
"CEDA" Quarantine and some of the madness regarding moving people to shelter during Katrina could probably be drawn as a parallel of each other, at least regarding the potential for being perceived as inhumane or cruel. Both involve forcing people into a somewhere for an arguably good reason, regardless of their will.
Unfortunately, whether they're setting up a commentary or not, there's the potential for a thematic similarity. You know, with regards to everyone in an area. Not just in some racial treatment consideration.
Perhaps making that a race related concern is unfair, though. Is it really a racial determination if the people of your locale happen to be of predominately a particular race?
@Mentok: As a fellow Houstonian, I agree. But I've known the chronicle is nothing but a shit rag for a while now, so it doesn't surprise me.
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It really goes to show that you can't do anything involving gamers these days without some moron (usually a gamer) screaming about gamer stereotypes and representation.
Amirite?
It really goes to show that you can't do anything involving gamers these days without some moron (usually a gamer) screaming about gamer stereotypes and representation.
Amirite?
I'll make it my solemn duty to kill ten negro zombies for every person who refuses to play this game because it's racist.
@Tubatic: We agree on something again, how strange(lol). I agree that a "disaster" hitting New Orleans (hurricane/zombie outbreak) and the outcomes of disasters resulting in deaths could possibly be seen as insensitive. I also agree that the race of the people involved in the disasters, also the charges of racism, have nothing to do with each other. I personally do not find any of it to be insensitive, but I could draw parallels if we are talking of an area affected by disasters. They just need to leave out the charges of racism. Good catch, Tubatic.
Again, there are no zombie races. The closest thing to races are perhaps slow limpers & daylight runners.
I haven't seen any group of gamers state that they wouldn't buy L4D:2 because they thought it was racist. I am surprised this is STILL a story as Jefferson’s article appears to have fallen flat on its face. Where is this mythical outcry? The only outcry that I see (other than one writer’s misguided attempt to catapult himself into the lime-light) is that of opinionated gamers posting that anyone who thinks L4d:2 to be racist is off-the-mark.
@arch
What are you talking about? Who is “they”? Where are the people amassing in droves screaming that L4D:2 is racist and that they refuse to buy it? Your comment is aggravating to me on many levels. Firstly, it attributes the stupid ramblings of one individual onto many, which simply is not the case. Secondly, if I understand you correctly and “US” equates to White America, then Obama’s victory is solely a result of ONE American demographic, which is also not the case. This kind of response is exactly what angers me regarding Jefferson’s original assertion. The assumption that all African American’s think with one mind is just as ludicrous as ANY other American demographic engaging in “group think”…..Jefferson as a writer is a sensationalist and he seems to have found many other sensationalists with this fly-trap of an article.
@arch
What are you talking about? Who is “they”? Where are the people amassing in droves screaming that L4D:2 is racist and that they refuse to buy it? Your comment is aggravating to me on many levels. Firstly, it attributes the stupid ramblings of one individual onto many, which simply is not the case. Secondly, if I understand you correctly and “US” equates to White America, then Obama’s victory is solely a result of ONE American demographic, which is also not the case. This kind of response is exactly what angers me regarding Jefferson’s original assertion. The assumption that all African American’s think with one mind is just as ludicrous as ANY other American demographic engaging in “group think”…..Jefferson as a writer is a sensationalist and he seems to have found many other sensationalists with this fly-trap of an article.
You know who's really underrepresented? Gingers. I have yet to see a ginger zombie. Won't someone please think of the daywalkers?
Also I've never seen a game featuring the Dutch. Oh fuck, I did, some RTS if I'm correct... Dutch people only on PC. RACIST!!
PS3 is black. RACIST!!
360 and Wii are white. RACIST!!
360 elite is black. RACIST!!
PSP is black, yellow, blue, red, gray, white, pink. RACIST!!
PS3 is black. RACIST!!
360 and Wii are white. RACIST!!
360 elite is black. RACIST!!
PSP is black, yellow, blue, red, gray, white, pink. RACIST!!
This tiresome shite is always good for a headline.
They'll be introducing black, quadriplegic, lesbians next.
Sick bastards!
They'll be introducing black, quadriplegic, lesbians next.
Sick bastards!
@GameraTheGreat
By "they" I meant the black community. I was merely referring to whoever still plays the "race" card. If the majority of the country elected a black president, then I assume that most people have moved on from racial tension. But apparently there are still people out there that will exploit the black community by playing the race card. People like Jefferson.
". . . it attributes the stupid ramblings of one individual onto many, which simply is not the case."
Just like no one believes all Muslims are terrorists? While it isn't true, it's the few fanatics that you see on TV that make people believe it is. It's the same with the Christian, gay, etc. communities. As for the black community, it's the stereotype that people like Jefferson love to exploit by playing the race card. I was merely responding sarcastically.
So chill out.
By "they" I meant the black community. I was merely referring to whoever still plays the "race" card. If the majority of the country elected a black president, then I assume that most people have moved on from racial tension. But apparently there are still people out there that will exploit the black community by playing the race card. People like Jefferson.
". . . it attributes the stupid ramblings of one individual onto many, which simply is not the case."
Just like no one believes all Muslims are terrorists? While it isn't true, it's the few fanatics that you see on TV that make people believe it is. It's the same with the Christian, gay, etc. communities. As for the black community, it's the stereotype that people like Jefferson love to exploit by playing the race card. I was merely responding sarcastically.
So chill out.
Ha. I love how Jim proves that the Houston Chronicle Blog "caused a stir" by linking to his own post. There was no "controversy". There was a hissy fit by Jim Sterling who simply cannot tolerate black people musing about racial issues in media on the internet.
Uhhh, yeeeaah. How is anyone supposed assume that in using “they” that you specifically meant “members of the Black community that are engaging in playing the race card” (quite a mouthful)? As far any Black community members being “exploited”; I have yet to see anyone (Black,White, Blue, or otherwise) state that they will not be buying this game based on any perceived racism. This situation, very much seems to be a singular incident with one particular blogger as it specifically relates to L4D:2.
If you know that “all Muslims aren’t terrorists” then you should also know that attributing one dude’s opinion to that of many is patently silly. Sarcasm involving a sentence written in ALL caps seems more of a declaration of internal perspective rather than a good humored joke. When admonishing me to “chill out” you may want to prescribe yourself some of your own medicine before authoring provocative statements. You had to know someone might react to what you posted (almost like trolling with regard to race) and in certain ways your comment reminds me of Jefferson’s writing style. Not mad at ya’, just had to speak my mind. ;)
If you know that “all Muslims aren’t terrorists” then you should also know that attributing one dude’s opinion to that of many is patently silly. Sarcasm involving a sentence written in ALL caps seems more of a declaration of internal perspective rather than a good humored joke. When admonishing me to “chill out” you may want to prescribe yourself some of your own medicine before authoring provocative statements. You had to know someone might react to what you posted (almost like trolling with regard to race) and in certain ways your comment reminds me of Jefferson’s writing style. Not mad at ya’, just had to speak my mind. ;)
I would find Jumbo's comment real interesting if this wasn't Jim's task as a game news type person man.
"It really goes to show that you can't do anything involving black people these days without some moron (usually a guilty white person) screaming about racism."
No, usually it's not said "guilty" person.
Usually if it is, it's because he or she is a newsperson and if they don't come across unnecessarily sympathetic then they, too, are racist.
No, usually it's not said "guilty" person.
Usually if it is, it's because he or she is a newsperson and if they don't come across unnecessarily sympathetic then they, too, are racist.
Valve has a long track-history of racism in their games.
There's clear racism against the Combine in Half-Life, and "nubs" -- I don't use such hateful slang lightly -- have long been terrorized in Counter-Strike.
There's clear racism against the Combine in Half-Life, and "nubs" -- I don't use such hateful slang lightly -- have long been terrorized in Counter-Strike.
Wasn't one of the comments from Jefferson's article was that several of the zombies in L4D2 appear to be African-American? I just realized how stupid that statement was. You don't have white or black zombies. They are all one color - gray.
The RE4 racism arguments got a lot of people some time in the spotlight. This is an excellent opportunity for pundits to ride in on its very long coattails.
hey so i'll be playin L4D2 with all my nigga friends.... whoa, whoa, don't get mad it's okay, it's okay, my president is black!
seriously though much respect to Chet Faliszek for standing up for common sense. all capcom did was apologizes for something they didn't mean to do.
seriously though much respect to Chet Faliszek for standing up for common sense. all capcom did was apologizes for something they didn't mean to do.
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