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Valve is 'trying' to allow Left 4 Dead 1 and 2 crossplay photo

Valve's marketing VP Doug Lombardi has revealed that the studio is currently in the process of working out cross-gameplay between Left 4 Dead and Left 4 Dead 2, allowing the two games to lock together like a gestalt and form Devastator.

"That's something that we're trying to work out the details of right now," he explains. "So nothing specific to say today, but we understand that it's a very valid thing to be working on and looking at."

In terms of Mods, Valve has confirmed that they will be able to migrate between the games: "With the MOD stuff, if you're making stuff for Left 4 Dead it will work in Left 4 Dead 2 with very minor amounts of work to bring it over. So we feel we've made good steps on that side and now we're looking at how we manage that for folks who buy the first game and sequel."

Going back to cross-play, this is a feature that many fans have named as a highly desirable addition to the sequel, so hopefully Valve is able to confirm its possibility soon. It may go some small way toward warming the cynics over to the new game, if Left 4 Dead 1 won't be rendered totally obsolete by the sequel's existence.


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Doomsday Forte's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/06/2009 11:23
Doomsday Forte
Sadly, if they had said this first, there wouldn't have been such backlash about the sequel. *sighs*

Oh well, bravo.
Chibi_Zero's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/06/2009 11:28
Chibi_Zero
Doomsday Forte: No they would have still complained.
kauza's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/06/2009 11:30
kauza
So I read that headline as "Left 4 Dead 1 and 2 Cosplay" and I was really damn confused.
walkyourpath's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/06/2009 11:32
walkyourpath
Dunno about crossplay, but you can bank on Left For Dead 1 and 2 cosplay!
Doomsday Forte's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/06/2009 11:33
Doomsday Forte
@Chibi_Zero: Well, yeah, but at least this would (hopefully?) make this an easier pill to swallow.

Imagine if there was retroactive changes? Like fighting the sequel zombies in the first game. That's some Sonic & Knuckles lock-on action going on right there. =P
icarus's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/06/2009 11:35
icarus
This was the one feature that I was hoping they would include. Glad to see they are trying to make it work, but obviously nothing is final. I am sure that if it doesn't happen though, people will complain that Valve "promised" crossplay between the games and complain.
megamonki's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/06/2009 11:36
megamonki
any idea if this will work for the 360 version
falinter's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/06/2009 11:37
falinter
For the 360 this wouldn't amount to anything more than playing levels in l4d2 with l4d characters and l4d levels with l4d2 characters.

Thats cool and all but almost not necessary. Especially if there's no new dialog for the old characters.
Sentry's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/06/2009 11:49
Sentry
If they manage to successfully implement these features, and additionally release some content for Left 4 Dead before the release of L4D2, that might (hopefully) shut the mouths of most of the boycotters.
Timmeh's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/06/2009 11:53
Timmeh
Maybe they could release an update on 360 for L4D1 that allows people to install the maps to the hard drive and use them in L4D2? People could abuse this through rentals but didn't they do something similar by allowing people to transfer Rock Band songs to Rock Band 2?

Doesn't really matter for PC. If Valve don't do it, modders will just port the maps into L4D2 anyway.
Optimaximal's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/06/2009 12:00
Optimaximal
Fuck me, so that's what 'furious backpedalling' sounds like!
BrunoDeckard's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/06/2009 12:01
BrunoDeckard
Hey Sterling, what about the Darksiders' contest results?
Soulwax's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/06/2009 12:06
Soulwax
I think everyone is missing the point here. There's a tiny zombie running on the angry zombies head.
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/06/2009 12:08
Holyetheline
When L4D2 comes out it's "Good bye" to L4D. I won't need any crossplay.
Doos's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/06/2009 12:15
Doos
So the two games would function together as one game? Sort of like, DLC? I'm not a rabid boycotter, and I enjoy increased functionality between games, so I'm definitely not saying 'This is a bad thing..' but.. If the two games can function together, why could this stuff not just be added?

I just find it strange that Valve, who are notorious for long waits between sequels, have suddenly pulled this 180.

Either way.. More Left 4 Dead is a good thing. Paying retail price for it is debatable.
Methos's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/06/2009 12:18
Methos
I've had enough of the original 4 campaigns. I just want new ones.
ouched's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/06/2009 12:19
ouched
Timmeh does raise an interesting question. I wonder if they would just include the original maps on the disc? Not like they could expect to continue milking the first with the sequel out, and it would be another selling point..
Vedicardi2's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/06/2009 12:19
Vedicardi2
that would be interesting. Couldn't that mean you would get 8 characters to choose from if you bought both games or something? Cool potential there
Discarded Couch Sandwich's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/06/2009 12:22
Discarded Couch Sandwich
Fifty squid on that angry boycotters are currently punching the air as if they've suddenly made this happen, regardless that it will never be known to them whether this was intended for L4D2 in the first place!
UglyDuck's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/06/2009 12:35
UglyDuck
I honestly have no idea why you quoted "trying".
andycadaver's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/06/2009 12:36
andycadaver
All I have to say is hope it works. Still, I don't really care, as I'm going to be playing both games at once anyway. L4D1 does not get old. Ever.
falinter's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/06/2009 12:37
falinter
@soulwax

WTF
Electro Lemon's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/06/2009 12:43
Electro Lemon
@soulwax

Well, I'd be pissed if a zombie was dancing on my head, too.
I read the title as cosplay, too.
aerofan11's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/06/2009 12:44
aerofan11
Valve are trying to be loyal to their fanbase??? RAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!
Autumn's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/06/2009 13:21
Autumn
Sweet!
Now everyone telling the 'whiners' to 'stfuajpg' can officially fuck themselves because you're going to be directly beneiftting from the gamers who cared enough to make their voices heard.
The-Excel's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/06/2009 13:28
The-Excel
They should relabel the two games Left 4 Dead A and B if they're this compatible with each other. Maybe that will stop a little of the flack.
ikiryou's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/06/2009 13:51
ikiryou
Loyalty to their fanbase? No, that's called damage control. But if it's good for owners of L4D1&2, so be it. All's well that ends well.
Rammstein's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/06/2009 14:44
Rammstein
@Autumn: "Now everyone telling the 'whiners' to 'stfuajpg' can officially fuck themselves because you're going to be directly beneiftting from the gamers who cared enough to make their voices heard."

ROFL, yeah, you whiny bitch crybabies had SO much to do with this happening.

Cue VALVe facepalming in 3,2,1...
Dexter345's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/06/2009 14:49
Dexter345
I don't really understand how this will work, but okay, sure.

I mean, I'm sure it won't be an option on the 360 anyway...
Monte's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/06/2009 16:05
Monte
Ya... they should have announced these plans at E3... that would have greatly reduced the amount of whining as it addresses that ACTUAL concerns, such as whether or not they would continue to support L4D1, and that the community would not become split between the two games that would likely have little difference between eachother... i mean, the crossplay makes L4D2 sound more like an expansion than a seperate sequel...

The only complaints that would remain are the nitpicky unimportant ones like "it's too bright" and "the characters look generic"... right down there with the complaints about Diablo 3


Though really, the fact they are announcing this kind of stuff a month after E3 (a month after outrage), really does make me think they did not plan on this and are now really just backpedaling; making changes to please the complainers and keep EVERYONE happy. No reason they could have mentioned this at E3, or right after the outrage burst... it would probably take a couple of weeks for the higher ups at valve to decide on how they were going to handle it and for their programmers to figure out if it was possible (the last thing they want to do is make an announcement saying "there will be no crossplay" after saying there might be)...
starhawl's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/06/2009 17:03
starhawl
This was my biggest gripe about l4d2 and it still is
yutt's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/06/2009 17:34
yutt
@Chibi_Zero

People explained their reasons for being upset ad nauseum. Don't be a jackass.
10BobMarleys's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/06/2009 19:48
10BobMarleys
This is nice, but kinda hammers home the fact that this is more of an expansion than a sequel..... I'm not a hater, but I'm still waiting for someone to explain why this needs to be it's own game.
Autumn's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/06/2009 22:15
Autumn
@Rammstein
I wasn't a boycotter, but I respect what they did. I'd say they give ten times the shit that your generic comment-making, 'Rofl' writing lameass does about the games industry.
And don't hate on people for having the guts to stand up to the industry. You're probably perfectly content to whine and bitch in a forum when something upsets you, but do you ever do dick about it? No. If you don't believe that 30,000 voices had any effect on Valve's handling of L4D2 then you really are an incredulous twat.
Chronic Logic's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/06/2009 23:22
Chronic Logic
That doesn't seem possible at all. Keep dreaming Valve.
ajaxender's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/06/2009 23:35
ajaxender
Finally, they tell us things they should have from the start. Clearly, this sort of thing would be possible. They just had to tell us they were working on it.
If they can put a decent price on it for release (Valve normally do) then this should appease a lot of people; instead of getting another game replacing the first, theyre hopefully getting a massive upgrade.
WarZombie's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/07/2009 12:07
WarZombie
Holy hellfire.

You see, this is how things SHOULD be handled. I don't like the boycotters, but because they bitched we ALL got a pretty cool feature in return. And if you think that Valve didn't just stat working on this, then you need to open your eyes. This would've avoided a lot of flak that Valve got after E3, and announcing this so long after all the backlash proves that the 30,000+ protest group definitely had something to do with this.
Hyper WD's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/07/2009 23:29
Hyper WD
What's the matter Jim, couldn't find a way to come across like even more of a useless tosser than you usually do about this issue?

Oh... that's right... this means the 'crybabies' are getting at least part of what they want (because they're right and Valve knows it) and you look like a pompous douchebag for pissing on all of them ever since the issue started (even though you shit any other companies doing exactly the same sort of thing).

Fucking hypocritical wanker.
adultswim810's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2009 21:30
adultswim810
thank you for the lack of sarcasm. I was waiting for it while i reead that whole thing.
Spectral's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2009 00:18
Spectral
Hey guys I play video games too. Let's argue!
wanderingpixel's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2009 09:41
wanderingpixel
Valve loves you. Deal with it.
Doos's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/11/2009 07:19
Doos
Stop making sense, Spectral! I'll punch my screen where your Avatar is, and OH BOY, you're gonna feel it!
tigerfangred91's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/14/2009 10:44
tigerfangred91
BIAS!

I fucking love Valve so much.
Noah's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/14/2009 11:42
Noah
I don't understand what's happening right now.....all I know is that I'll most likely trade in L4D towards L4D2
RoninZero's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/15/2009 13:23
RoninZero
I don't know about you guys, but I'm having a lot of fun with L4D1 again now that the vpk update has come out. So if Valve can do this crossplay thing, then I won't bitch when I get L4D2. I'm still getting it though.
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