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@Xzyliac
I hardly read any news. This is the only site I go for news maybe thats why. Plus I'm not Italian, if that counts. I'm not getting this game but the only part I didn't understand is what Jim said. Why wait so long then suddenly bash it? And it's a sequel too! I mean what the eff?
I hardly read any news. This is the only site I go for news maybe thats why. Plus I'm not Italian, if that counts. I'm not getting this game but the only part I didn't understand is what Jim said. Why wait so long then suddenly bash it? And it's a sequel too! I mean what the eff?
WHAT? To be honest, I would take the a stereotype that I'm Mafia-related ANY DAY over the stereotype perpetrated by Jersey Shore: that all Italians are utter idiots.
If all the mafia members in the game are Italian then I would say they have a point. Other than that I think they're being a little disingenuous here, there's plenty of evidence showing that the Mafia existed and was headed by Italian-Americans.
" YO YOUSE GUYS NEEDS TO STOP WITH THIS NONSENSE* adjusts tie and turns head a little bit* WE ARE NOT LIKES THESE PORTRAYALS YOU ARE PORTRAYIN, CAPICHE? "
You'd think that they'd rather have Italians be stereotyped as tough, corrupt mafia members who are prone to violence rather than tanned up, gym obsessed air heads.
Mafia > Jersey Shore
Mafia > Jersey Shore
"Why would [Take-Two] foist a game on their targeted audience of young people wherein they will indoctrinate a new generation into directly associating Italians and Italian Americans with violent, murderous organized crime..."
So, wait. Italian-Americans aren't violent and murderous and in organized crime? ALERT THE MEDIA.
So, wait. Italian-Americans aren't violent and murderous and in organized crime? ALERT THE MEDIA.
@Xzyliac - I thought this articl was about my favorite brand of pasta / tomato sauce... what an ironic name pick considering there's an organization that goes berzerk on Italian stereotypes.
I wonder why they give so much of a shit? What, because they don't like that something happened in our history and their ethnicity was involved, it should therefore cease to exist? What a fucking scandal. Did the NAACP rise up in protest against "American Gangster" or "Boys in the Hood"? Did the IAUC protest "the Devil's Own" or "Gang's of New York" for making irish look like poor terrorists? Get real. Go figure Yakuza gets made and actual members send Sega feedback.
@ Occams: You're right, we are.
@ Occams: You're right, we are.
@PhantomOfPanton
I read your entire post. The point of my comment was that calling something "gay" is about the level of intelligence I expect out of you, given your comment history.
I read your entire post. The point of my comment was that calling something "gay" is about the level of intelligence I expect out of you, given your comment history.
Yes, ignore The Godfather, Goodfellas and The Sopranos. Italian-American stereotypes are all Mafia 2's fault.
The head of Take2 should teach him a lesson, make a horse's head made out of spaghetti.
The head of Take2 should teach him a lesson, make a horse's head made out of spaghetti.
They can stop the 360 and PS3 versions from going out no problem - should give em some time to get the frame rate issues sorted.
@mrandydixon: A retort.
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Heres the thing they said it was targeted tards young people. It's rated M for Mature which means 17+.
Wait wait... So... Italian Americans didnt play a large part in the Mobs back in the time period this game takes place? Open yours eyes UNICO. This shits not made up. lol.
@Mr.Dixon: I was going to comment something that actually pertained to the article, but you got SERVED!!!
Well, about 50 to 80 years ago in the US, people did discriminate against the Italians (as well as the Irish). It was particularly bad in the 1800's. But now, at least in the US, there is almost no discrimination against Italians. I haven't heard of anyone discriminating against them, for the past 20 or so years. Even here in Australia, Italians and Greeks are no longer being discriminated against.
UNICO is still trapped in the 1800's way of thinking, and that's sad. Like many organizations, they need a reason to exist, so they beat up this non-existent discrimination and racism against italians to justify their continued existence.
UNICO, you are NOT the NAACP. That organization has a reason to exist. You no longer do. Italians are generally considered white by 99.9% of all people out there.
And in the end, who cares? I haven't even heard of the UNICO until today. They're not a force to contend with, and if they whine and whine, so what? They have no case.
UNICO is still trapped in the 1800's way of thinking, and that's sad. Like many organizations, they need a reason to exist, so they beat up this non-existent discrimination and racism against italians to justify their continued existence.
UNICO, you are NOT the NAACP. That organization has a reason to exist. You no longer do. Italians are generally considered white by 99.9% of all people out there.
And in the end, who cares? I haven't even heard of the UNICO until today. They're not a force to contend with, and if they whine and whine, so what? They have no case.
If the worst examples of "racism" you can come up with are Mafia portrayals and looking like orange idiots, then you need to stop complaining about racism. Get back to me when you get lynched or have a couple hate crimes against you.
UNICO? MORE LIKE UNICORN! HAHAHAHAHAHA!
Come on people... Go bother that stupid reality show with the obnoxious fat little girl. I'm of itallian descent and whenever I even read or hear about that shit filled with demented a-holes, I actually take solace on the fact that there may be some alternate reality in which someone sporting a Marlon Brando accent and a fedora hat is turning those guys into a red, swollen, unrecognizable mass with a little, shiny ridiculous wavy haircut on top.
God, I hate that thing.
Come on people... Go bother that stupid reality show with the obnoxious fat little girl. I'm of itallian descent and whenever I even read or hear about that shit filled with demented a-holes, I actually take solace on the fact that there may be some alternate reality in which someone sporting a Marlon Brando accent and a fedora hat is turning those guys into a red, swollen, unrecognizable mass with a little, shiny ridiculous wavy haircut on top.
God, I hate that thing.
i am Italian, and although i didnt much like the demo for Mafia II, i did like the characters. the game makes us look badass. UNICO, however, makes us look like whiney babies -.- also, do they really expect the developer to cancel the games release and rework it from the ground up? they need to get their heads out of their asses
I realize no one cared about my last comment, but really, what would this game be if they removed all references to Italians, or better, race, gender and ethnicity altogether.
Person 1: Hey.. You, we should shoot that person for no reason..
Person 2: Yeah. Cool.
ZOMG THEY'RE SPEAKING ENGLISH RACIST!!!!!
Person 1: Hey.. You, we should shoot that person for no reason..
Person 2: Yeah. Cool.
ZOMG THEY'RE SPEAKING ENGLISH RACIST!!!!!
I played the demo, one of the characters swigs a bottle of alcohol on the elevator between gun fights and his colleague asks, "drinking on the job? What are you Irish now?" I didn't take any offense. Why? because it's a fucking video game, I was too busy having fun to care and I already knew its a fictional story. Why do these organizations decide to be offended only when someone of similar race, creed or color is represented by characters that only exist in a world that doesn't?
@ Jon Bloodspray;
Agreed. Those hypocrites don't exactly go after the Godfather films and ask for them to be taken off the shelves.
Agreed. Those hypocrites don't exactly go after the Godfather films and ask for them to be taken off the shelves.
i have to bang my head against the wall on this one. the people who complain about mafias being italian (in history they were the "big" one so its obvious to base it on them) but apparently have no problems with criminals being black or skinheads and assume that everyone in the Middle East loves to scream jihad at the top of their lungs while blowing themselves up.
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Lol, how silly. I can see those Yakuza, that played Yakuza 4 recently in japan, laughing at this nonsense. Nice to see organised crime folk who seem actually more in touch with games, than an organisation like UNICO.
I see they had no problem when The Soprano's ran for six seasons of distrubing yet excellent drama. How about actually playing the game first, UNICO. And why do this when a sequel is due, and the Godfather games have been out for ages? Doh!
Go Take Two, I hope it sells tons for ya. I enjoyed the demo and might indulge too.
I see they had no problem when The Soprano's ran for six seasons of distrubing yet excellent drama. How about actually playing the game first, UNICO. And why do this when a sequel is due, and the Godfather games have been out for ages? Doh!
Go Take Two, I hope it sells tons for ya. I enjoyed the demo and might indulge too.
It's nice to see that in this age of record unemployment and environmental disasters, things are still going well enough that we can pay people to find things to complain about.
yeah, this is so outrageous. If take two was attempting to portray italians accurately, they could've given them overalls and thick moustaches.....:-P
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