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It's a huge deal especially if you are new to the industry. Having your work, and name, tied to a hit game could be the difference between rockstar developer or "would you like that medium or large?"
For shame Rockstar, for shame. Just because somebody quit or was let go leading up to the release does not mean the work they already put in on the game was negated. They have had some shady practices as of late (including the accusations that they have become the gaming equivalent to a Chinese sweatshop).
What do they have to gain from this? They pay someone an hours less wages, saved from it being typed in? Wow.
But they never forget the babies in the credits! (I don't care about who was born during the games production)
and dont forget to give full name credits to these people, because the ending rolling credits arnt long enough as it is.
knuckle hair artist - Bill Soandso
clothing pleat design team - Jack Handy, Scott Bitchfist, Tammy Rugglover
plastic tip thing on shoe lace 3d modeler - Richard Poundtown
eye lash thickness tester - Chris Hogivsasht
knuckle hair artist - Bill Soandso
clothing pleat design team - Jack Handy, Scott Bitchfist, Tammy Rugglover
plastic tip thing on shoe lace 3d modeler - Richard Poundtown
eye lash thickness tester - Chris Hogivsasht
It certainly not the consumers that give a fuck about credits... If the consumers don't care, what's the point? Personal satisfaction aka masturbation?
While I truly wish for developers to get the credit the justly deserve, I do have to ask one thing: do industry recruiters look at credits themselves? Or would they just call their last place of employment to check their resume? I would like clarification on whether or not end-game credits are seen by anyone but the consumer.
If you're looking for work as a dev, plenty of jobs will want someone that has worked on a shipped game. Without that, you're more or less, on paper, fresh to the industry.
Its a huge boost having a shipped game to your name, imo, as someone looking to work in the industry. Consumer may not care specifically, but its important to the people that actually make these games we enjoy.
Its a huge boost having a shipped game to your name, imo, as someone looking to work in the industry. Consumer may not care specifically, but its important to the people that actually make these games we enjoy.
sorry, to add on.
Its also important for those QA guys and gals looking to move up the QA ranks, or even out of QA. Having a shipped game to your name goes for those middle management QA and entry level production positions as well.
Its also important for those QA guys and gals looking to move up the QA ranks, or even out of QA. Having a shipped game to your name goes for those middle management QA and entry level production positions as well.
One of the reasons I'd never want to work for Rockstar should I be fortunate enough to land a games industry job.
This sort of thing happens all the time and I'm surprised it's hardly brought to the attention of the media. I know a boatload of QA testers who worked very hard on "Hard Corps: Uprising" and were NOT CREDITED for their long hours of nonstop work.
You've gotta be fucking shitting me. Is it really that fucking hard to properly credit people for their work? Come the fuck on.
"plastic tip thing on shoe lace 3d modeler - Richard Poundtown "
That would be an aglet. Their true purpose... is sinister.
That would be an aglet. Their true purpose... is sinister.
In my state credits are mandatory on all consumer products. If you buy a dozen ears of corn, you get a pamphlet naming all the people who developed that strain of seed, all the people who worked on the farm where it was planted, and so forth, and at the end of the pamphlet are the credits for the people who created the pamphlet. Same for a bottle of detergent, magic marker, pack of diapers, etc. The only exception is alcoholic beverages; for some reason it's illegal to distribute credits with them.
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But then wouldn't you need to credit the people who made the credits for the pamphlet? And then credit those who made the credits for those who made the credits for the pamphlet? And then credit those who made the credits for those who made the credits for those who made the credits for the pamphlet? WHEN DOES IT END?!?
But then wouldn't you need to credit the people who made the credits for the pamphlet? And then credit those who made the credits for those who made the credits for the pamphlet? And then credit those who made the credits for those who made the credits for those who made the credits for the pamphlet? WHEN DOES IT END?!?
Hahaha, yaaaayyyy Justice League Unlimited references!
Also, ever since Red Dead Redemption caused all that strife between Rockstar and their developers I have been very suspicious of Rockstar's business practices. Not suspicious enough to actually research anything...but suspicious.
Also, ever since Red Dead Redemption caused all that strife between Rockstar and their developers I have been very suspicious of Rockstar's business practices. Not suspicious enough to actually research anything...but suspicious.
I didn't think the credits mattered.. I mean, look at how many people (myself included) Signed up their name for Duke Nukem Forever credits...
They're not really uncredited. All you have to do is carry the invisible gun and walk into a certain wall and hey-presto! You're in room that says "this game was made by John Smith ect ect."
Considering the game was in development for 7 years and switched developers and publishers, it's not really surprising that this happened.
Rockstar'll come back and say they just spoiled a planned dlc to investigate the dissapearance of said uncredited developers
Welcome to the tech world. Those that still have jobs during shipping are lucky to have their name credited at all, let alone those that we let go. In the rest of the non-gaming tech world, 1000s of developers names never see their work credited. Get used to it.
Wait, the credits were like 8 to 9 minutes. (like in an average Rockstar-title)
I thought they didn't even miss the pizza-boy's girlfriend's stepsister's uncle's dog in this one.
I thought they didn't even miss the pizza-boy's girlfriend's stepsister's uncle's dog in this one.
I can't believe that this shit is still ongoing. Devs have been complaining about this - and rightly fucking so - for years, because it's never just a mistake. Studios can cut staff (like the redundancies the article mentions) as a regular part of a big release, and never give credit. But all the big-wigs get to put whatever the fuck they want in the credits, like the names of the pizza delivery folks, names of fucking pets, or their newborn spawn.
One of the bigger reasons why PLAYING games is fun, but MAKING them is a nightmare. I've been in software development for 11 years, and with horror stories about this industry being floated around for just as long, I've never once been tempted to try and break into it.
One of the bigger reasons why PLAYING games is fun, but MAKING them is a nightmare. I've been in software development for 11 years, and with horror stories about this industry being floated around for just as long, I've never once been tempted to try and break into it.
Does it matter if the credits are in the game, or just listed online somewhere for CV references? I can't see potential employers playing through whole video games to look up people's references.
I gey that this'll probably always happen, but when people have put so much effort into this and have no proof, or I suppose reward, for their efforts in the form of the credits, an official who's-who of everyone it took to produce the game.
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