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Xbox 360 exclusive Gears of War 2 has managed to blast its way to the top of the UK sales charts, putting LittleBigPlanet in its place despite the latters two-day lead. Both games are the highly anticipated Holiday killers for their respective platform, but it seems that the opening battle has gone to Epic Games' steroid-pumped shooter.

While Gears 2 soaks up the glory of the top spot, LittleBigPlanet has a less impressive position at number four, having also lost out to FIFA 09 and Fallout 3. Apparently, the cute charms of Sackboy make for a less endearing mascot than Marcus Fenix's grizzled facade and bulging neck muscles. Maybe Microsoft should look into Fenix plushies?

I would argue that this has something to do with casual gaming. Not the misconception people have about casual gamers (that they are all old people and women), but the true scope of what it means to be casual -- which includes young males who don't follow games but love violent, mainstream shooters like Halo and Gears. The "casual" appeal of Gears 2 will likely have had an effect here.

Bad news for the British Media Molecule, bested on its own turf. With very little else in Sony's bag of tricks, this has to be a real shame. Still, maybe the title's position will climb when parents are looking for something cute to give their kids. We'll have to see. 


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Holiday's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/10/2008 16:47
Holiday
Violence>Good Clean Fun
fetusmilk's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/10/2008 16:57
fetusmilk
i really dont care about sales numbers , never did. because i buy what i want anyway. i know its all a pissing contest, but that doesnt matter because i gotta take a shit anyway.
mix's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/10/2008 17:02
mix
Aw man now I'm all upset that LBP is in 4th place :(

Not really but what THE FUCK is soccer doing in 3rd?
Robbo the hood's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/10/2008 17:03
Robbo the hood
LBP hasn't been marketed well at all. The commercials have been pitching the game as if everyone knew what it was. It needs explanation. Besides that, LBP certainly has a little following that doesn't want to accept that Gears is a good game too. Not to mention that it's an established, well understood, and well marketed franchise. I would've been shocked if the game that looks stupid on TV sold more than Gears. LBP is awesome, save for the floaty and sometimes troublesome jumping, and the depth issues that can happen once in a while, but you can't just show people a platformer with sackboys wearing different outfits and expect people to be interested. The game isn't even very impressive on a platforming level, but the creation aspect is what makes it unique, but good luck figuring that out properly from the commercials. Sure, they show the creation tools briefly in the commercial, but are we only recognizing it as such because we know what it looks like? Why not have a series of commercials with sped up creation footage? You can finish up with the developer levels, but if people can't grasp the creation aspect, LBP looks like a dated piece of crap.
jellydoodle's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/10/2008 17:11
jellydoodle
@mix: This is england...and its football.
ArchArbiter's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/10/2008 17:18
ArchArbiter
HEAD EXPLODING MEATHEAD HOO-RAH DOGTAGS GUNS AND HUGE MUSCLES VS Happy funland cuddlycute

I like LBP better. Poor Sackboy.
mix's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/10/2008 17:38
mix
@Jellydoodle

It totally skipped my mind that it was in the UK, my bad!
Ronsauce's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/10/2008 17:39
Ronsauce
I'm not sure I quite agree with the notion that since Gears is more widely known, it is therefore a "casual" game.

@jellydoodle: Maybe he's not in England, and it actually is soccer.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/10/2008 18:05
Jim Sterling
Squawk:

The only one trying to have an argument is you, and that's quite sad. Get a life yourself .. uh .. commentboy?
VWGTI's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/10/2008 18:05
VWGTI
I only own a PS3 at this point (sold my 360 in March) and while I love my console of choice I have to say that I think LBP is terribly overrated. It's not a bad game, but it certainly isn't for everyone. I personally would much rather play a shooter, especially GoW2, over LBP any day.
Krow's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/10/2008 18:06
Krow
But... Squawk. He's making money. Isn't that a life?
bart999's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/10/2008 18:14
bart999
I loves me my LBP, but not even I expect sackboy to pwn Marcus Fenix.
Joe Burling's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/10/2008 18:38
Joe Burling
Squawk, it's idiotic to talk about casual vs hardcore when talking about a console that costs $400? How many casual gamers do you know have a PS3? I know two people that have one as a Blu-Ray player, but I know no casual gamers that have a PS3.

I'll bet if MM made this game on the Wii instead, it would have sold 3 times more than it did. I'd say it has just about everything to do with casual vs hardcore.
TheRemedy's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/10/2008 18:57
TheRemedy
@Sqauwk

I think the casual argument is more than appropriate here. I know quite a few people that play Halo/CoD/Gears pretty much exclusively and refuse to look at anything other than those types of games. Isn't someone with only a passing interest in the hobby the very definition of the term casual gamer?
TrailerParkJesus's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/10/2008 19:37
TrailerParkJesus
LBP sales aren't going so well, but at least a sequel is on the way eh?
Rosseh's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/10/2008 19:41
Rosseh
I'd chalk it up to this demographic partially. Word on the street around here is usually "I really like the look of/I want Little Big Planet, but I just don't have the money and/or it's not worth it for just one game."
I'm definitely in that group too. The news about the sensoring of copyrighted material has disappointed me a little, putting me off a little bit more.

With Christmas coming up we'll just have to wait and see in January how the sales have changed. I'd leave it till the end of January, there are kids who get Christmas money to spend.
BattyAdroit's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/10/2008 19:49
BattyAdroit
Man, this is exactly Jim's kind of story.

Any chance to gloat over the fact that an exclusive on a system he owns has done better than an exclusive on a system he doesn't own, is his bread-and-butter.

This day probably couldn't be any better for him unless a Stouffers truck overturned outside of his house.
Anus Mcphanus's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/10/2008 19:50
Anus Mcphanus
This is Gears 2, I don't think anyone expected it not to destroy the competition.

As for LBP not selling as well, I think a lot of people are holding back from buying it until the in game community is properly established and great levels are being made and promoted. The fact that the servers were down doesn't help the game either, that and the marketing of the game hasn't been great.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/10/2008 20:53
Jim Sterling
I see no gloating. A see Battyadroit acting like a petulant child, however.

Grow up mate.
Kent's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/10/2008 21:00
Kent
I decided to go with gears...
Kyousuke Nanbu's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/10/2008 21:07
Kyousuke Nanbu
LBP sucks.
Gears 2 rules.
stevesan's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/10/2008 21:44
stevesan
i have a ps3 and lbp...and...i regret both. it pains me to say it, but it's the truth.
Magesx's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/10/2008 22:20
Magesx
What kind of idiot actually expected LBP to outsell Gears 2?

I mean, seriously.

inb4 jim calls me a fanboy or something
Magesx's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/10/2008 22:26
Magesx
Also, the Euro boxart for LBP is fucking scary. In that case, I'm actually surprised it sold that well, seeing as how it's 100% nightmare fuel.
Tuxy's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/10/2008 23:02
Tuxy
I'm really surprised by LBP sales. I was expecting much better numbers.

It's the only game that compels me to buy a PS3.
Aspire's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/10/2008 23:16
Aspire
LittleBigPlanet was meant for the Wii. Remember, it seems like almost half of PS3 owners bought it for MGS4 thus cutting the potential audience for LBP to pieces.

It may be a system seller but not on a system that isnt known for that type of game.

Its the problem with no exclusives anymore, everyone thinks these games are on everything.
Magesx's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/10/2008 23:21
Magesx
Whatever way you cut it, the game's fun as hell, which kinda negates everything.
Joe Burling's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/10/2008 23:33
Joe Burling
True, Magesx
DemonEyes23's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/10/2008 23:44
DemonEyes23
this isn't really that surprising something like LBP isn't going to have the same mass appeal as gears would not to mention the original backing up its name. I would think most people would rather chainsaw someone in two than create levels. But what's with this comment about sony having little else in its back of tricks theres plenty of good games still coming out and i personally enjoy Resistance 2 more than i do gears (despite its current online problems).
Edarios's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/11/2008 00:32
Edarios
people got their fill in the beta
klubjunkee's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/11/2008 00:37
klubjunkee
Number of sales doesn't measure a game's success. At least not profit wise and that's what counts to everyone but the fanboys.

Both games sell for the same price. Media Molecule has a small team of 27 employees according to their blog. Epic Games has roughly 4x the employees. Cliffy's celeb salary is prob equivalent to that of team MM's combined gross. MM and Sony has a lower overhead so I'm sure the sales number met/exceeded their expectations.

I'm speculating that Gears 2 had a higher production cost and it goes without saying that Microsoft paid much more for Gears from established dev Epic then Sony did for LBP from relatively unknown dev Media Molecule. Microsoft made a safe bet on Gears 2 and I'm sure they got a nice return. I doubt neither camp's developers and publishers are frowning at the sales these games raked in.

Congrats to Media Molecule on the birth of a new franchise and congrats to Epic on another hit. Enjoy the videogames and leave the numbers game for the analysts.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/11/2008 05:13
Jim Sterling
"Jim your def. of a casual gamer's inappropriate."

I disagree. If you talk to a lot of people in real life about games, you gain what I feel is an important perspective about "casual" gamers.

Casual gamers have existed since gaming first began and are not simply relegated to old people, children and women. The young male demographic is definitely full of casual gamers. These are people who are not primarily interested in games, but will buy and play FIFA or Grand Theft Auto.

They do not "regularly partake" in gaming or "prefer" it to others. They are as casual about it as any Wii Sports player. I have met these people, I have spoken to them about games.

I think it is incredibly blinkered to rule out the FIFA/Gears/Halo/GTA playing gamer if we're going to have this "casual" definition.
koehler83's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/11/2008 05:37
koehler83
I imagine, like Halo 3 and GTA4 and pretty much every game of its stature and hype; GoW2 will shoot its wad by the end of the month by the time anyone who ever gave a damn will have bought it and beat it.. many will continue in multiplayer, but very few new buyers will arrive going into the new year.

I expect a game like LBP to maintain steady sales for quite a while. Especially if MM support the game and expand it as they said they will. LBP puts itself in an interesting situation: The longer the consumer waits, the better the experience will be, with a larger user created library growing daily.
Quiotu's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/11/2008 08:26
Quiotu
LBP wasn't handled well at all, but it's not the end of the game at all. This is a game that actually gets better the longer it's out, much like most MMOs. If they advertise the game better, keep patching it up to make it more interactive, and continue to offer more content and features, it's very easy to see this as a Christmas sleeper hit.

Gears 2 and most highly advertised multiplayer shooters will always sell well, especially on the 360. Hell even Too Human sold well for a few weeks until it came out that the game was ass. You won't see a game sell on the PS3 like Halo 3 or Gears 2 until you see an established series release a sequel. So God of War 3, Final Fantasy 13 (it's released on the PS3 first), and I potentially see Infamous creating the sales if it's advertised right.
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/12/2008 11:28
Holyetheline
captain obvious?
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