Thank Ant and Dec with their stupid adverts for those Wii sales. Actually, don't. Just don't.

Interesting, MW1 is on the list too. Speaking of which, the Steam download costs 50 euro's.

Damn, is Lego Batman really that good? When can we see Lego Halo or Lego World War 2?

It shocked nobpdy Jim, nobpdy.

I'm willing to bet that the original Modern Warfare is in the charts due to the amount of mums buying the wrong one for their 7 year old kids.

I was amazed by the amount of little kids with parents at the midnight launch. I really wanted to ask them, "Would you let your little lad there watch a porno?"

British parents have no concept of age ratings on games. I advised a colleague not to buy it for her 11 year old son, she replied "my boy knows what's real and what's not" - my response secured one less kiddie on XBL - (SPOILER) "You burn alive at one point."

I think British parents are all under the impression that their kids are little angels sent from God, born with a fully matured personality and a perfect sense of right and wrong.

All while they're out happy slapping strangers and drinking cider till they puke.

Obligatory comment:

Those thugs in the picture have blatantly got 360's. Probably just out of court, going home to call some other kids on LIVE "cunts".

/fanboyishness.

@Jon B - Too true, LAWL.

maybe for a month or two instead of towny looking dudes, the UK game chart posts could contain pictures of overweight english kids that obviously played far too many videogames when they were growing up and didnt get much exercise. How funny would that be :D

@Tarvu, are you defending your choice to buy your kids (or is it yourself) games that are designed and legally rated for people older than them (you)?

Violent games, as much as they are perfectly harmless for ADULTS to play, can damage the developing personality of children. Just because little Timmy is "grown up" in your eyes doesn't mean that playing Manhunt or watching Saw isn't going to have some kind of effect on his developing personality and sense of right or wrong.

Giving underage kids adult rated games is not only damaging the kids, but damaging the Adults right to have true Adult games.

Now don't get me wrong, i consider a 16 year old an adult, but no way is an 11 year old an adult. i reitterate, to bypass the "gaemz are 4 kidz" glasses, ask youself the question, would i let him watch a porno? - 16, sure, 11, not so much.

@Munkee - Food is so fucking expensive over here that overweightness (word?) is not so prevalent.

@Sexualchocolate: I will see your argument, but it is still up to the person playing. It's unfortunately not a "one size fits all" solution. When I was 11, I played the first N64 Turok (and even did some rather sadistic things, like juggle corpses with the grenade launcher in slow motion with the blood effects so I could follow it), and to this day, I'm not some amoral prick who could strange a living creature to death and enjoy watching the life drain out of it. Hell, even the sight of blood bothers me. Of course, I readily knew it was a game and wasn't real. With the ever-marching advance of technology, killing very realistic people may very well translate into killing very real people. I dunno. But it's possible.

Not to say that cartoon violence hasn't spawned its own troubles, just saying.

It is a problem, though. I don't like kids playing games rated M or the like. Yes, I know I was underage with my example, but I turned out all right. I can't speak for others. =\

@Sexual Chocolate

Basically what Forte said. Not everyone is the same and even though when I was 11 I didn't really care for blood (In fact I had a fear of knives and cuts) there were some kids who could stand it very easily and not just the usual people I mean the really nice kids. If that kid you're talking about had played Modern Warfare with no problems I doubt Modern Warfare 2 is going to suddenly destroy his perception of reality.

@Everyday Legend

That is my least favourite argument ever. Honestly what's more likely to mess with your head. Being taught that people DIE when you set them on fire or that blowing shit up is funny?

@Everyday Legend

I was trying to point that out I guess I didn't understand fully what you were trying to say so I apologise. I wasn't trying to attack you at all just point out that unrealistic violence like in Turok could be worse to some than that in Modern Warfare.

What is Lego Batman still doing on the list? It's a fun as hell game but really? With all those new games out...Lego Batman. Nice.

Thanks for the debate guys, however I know there isn't a "one size fits all" solution, but there HAS to be some kind of limit on what is for kids and what is for Adults, and when those regulations are systematically ignored they lose all purpose.

Sure if they were followed to the letter some young, yet mature kids would have to go without some games/movies etc, small price to pay. The way it is right now, the few kids whose parents uphold the rules are subjected to 90% of their peers having these 18+ rated products and them being the one's left out.

To be honest, the problem isn't the maturity of the kids, it's the maturity of the parents. When so many people have kids so flippantly these days you have a massive number on what i'd consider "unfit parents" in the UK. These are the parents that don't care if their kids are mature enough to handle a product, they simply want the kid to stop moaning, or to avoid looking mean to other parents.

In a majority of parents of 10/15 year old kids these days allow their parenting to be dictated to them by the kids. Rather than actually BRINGING THEIR KIDS UP!

I think at the sacrifice of having young yet mature kids miss out of certain things a properly enforced age rating can protect the majority.

This is what happens when a Country essentially pays jobless, irresponsible people to have kids, while for those of us who are responsible having kids is a financially crippling experience.

(speaking as someone who's entire income is currently being sucked up to prepare for his soon to be born first Son. My partners income decimated down to maternity allowance and being given all of 2 weeks at further reduced pay to spend with my newborn) - If we were jobless, single parent fucks we would be sitting pretty and probably booking a fucking holiday with all the extra cash we would be due.

Fuck Great Britain - wow tangent much?

@Sexualchocolate

for the most part i agree with you. but, you always seem to be of the opinion that all non-working parents are a useless waste of time. You know as well as the rest of us that this country is fucked at the minute. You might live in a wonderful area where there are jobs for everybody who can be bothered to do one. but, in a lot of areas there just aren't jobs. i have some very good friends who have been honest, working people with kids. Now they are unemployed and apparently overqualified for most employers to be interested. All of these people are more than willing to work and are also very good parents. They are now on the dole. It would be nice if you didnt slate these people so hard as they have done nothing wrong.

i do understand the type your talking about and im not trying to fire up an argument. i just think that you often come across far too one sided and if your going to write these things for the whole world to see, then other side needs to be represented

agreed