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Give it about 12 hours, and there'll be an updated cracked version.
Not that I care, PRELOAD ALREADY, BAD COMPANY 2.
Not that I care, PRELOAD ALREADY, BAD COMPANY 2.
i did not play silent hunter 5 myself, but i am reading comments on my local torrent tracked and no one reported any kind of problem so far (only questions about operating submarine)
Well that's slightly better, still leaves out the casuals and travellers (laptop types) who don't have reliably accessible internet. Get out of urban settings much Ubisoft?
Well, in one one hand, if you don't like these drm crap, you just don't buy the game. Solved. As simple as that. Fuck the publisher.
On the other hand, if the publisher push a crappy drm on a game that I love to the bones, like I'm loving bad company 2, in a way that forbids me playing, man, then ITS WARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!
On the other hand, if the publisher push a crappy drm on a game that I love to the bones, like I'm loving bad company 2, in a way that forbids me playing, man, then ITS WARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!
sounding more and more like UBI have just ripped off securom, except now code substitution is happening via the net rather than the disk.
i still maintain this could potentially stop pirates from playing this game, but as we all know, legit customers are going to suffer greatly because of this.
usually customers lose, and pirates win, now the best case scenario is lose/lose, and a further loss for UBI.
i still maintain this could potentially stop pirates from playing this game, but as we all know, legit customers are going to suffer greatly because of this.
usually customers lose, and pirates win, now the best case scenario is lose/lose, and a further loss for UBI.
Seriously standing on a pedestal and shouting "HAHA YOU FOOLISH HACKERS CAN NOT DEFEAT US" isn't really the smartest course of action.
There is literally no such thing as a DRM that cannot be cracked given enough time. This is and always will be a waste of time and money for a publisher meaning that more and more of our gaming dollars go to SPENDING money to fight a LOSS of money. That loss of money is always there UBIsoft. You will never get 100% of the player base's money. If it's consoles it's rentals/resale, if it's PC it's hacking, it's a cost of doing business. Make a better game. I don't mind paying for something if i think the developer earned it. And i hate paying money for sub-par games. I'll just wait for the steam sale.
as a side note to hackers: try some low security, go in through the back door. that is how one will finally hack the gibson.
i suppose if you buy AC2 you deserve to be shat on.
did you people not learn your lesson after the first game?
did you people not learn your lesson after the first game?
If it stops piracy for an extended period of time I really don't think asking me to be online all the time, which I am anyway, is too much.
IF it stops piracy for a while. If it doesn't, what a waste of time and consumer hassle.
IF it stops piracy for a while. If it doesn't, what a waste of time and consumer hassle.
Really? Thats all they did? Thats just like if your boss gave you paid vacation, after breaking both your legs.
And anyone who disagrees with Ubisoft is a pirate. That's how this works now, right? Because OBVIOUSLY you couldn't claim to know that they're lying without having pirated the game. Or associated with someone who has, which is just as bad. This is why they're punishing everyone with this scheme.
StingingVelvet ,
"If it stops piracy for an extended period of time I really don't think asking me to be online all the time, which I am anyway, is too much. "
How egocentric can you possibly be?
"If it stops piracy for an extended period of time I really don't think asking me to be online all the time, which I am anyway, is too much. "
How egocentric can you possibly be?
Also, if you go look at comments sections of torrent sites for SH5.. apparently the crack worked perfectly fine. I take that to be truth, because pirates are some of the whiniest people on the face of the planet.
@ runtheplacard
What goes egotism have to do with it? If you're speaking about not everyone having internet 24/7 I would be the rates of PC gamers online constantly is above 90%, and 10% of ANY group will be left out of something.
More to the point I am fully for DRM free gaming, but in the realm of account based ownership, limited installs, finnicky disc checks and rootkit software, honestly saying "hey, play it online all the time" is low on my list of grievences. In fact, if they patch it out someday as promised, it rates lower than SecuROM or Steamworks on my personal annoyed-by-DRM-scale.
Sorry if that bothers you, but my opinion of the matter is mine.
What goes egotism have to do with it? If you're speaking about not everyone having internet 24/7 I would be the rates of PC gamers online constantly is above 90%, and 10% of ANY group will be left out of something.
More to the point I am fully for DRM free gaming, but in the realm of account based ownership, limited installs, finnicky disc checks and rootkit software, honestly saying "hey, play it online all the time" is low on my list of grievences. In fact, if they patch it out someday as promised, it rates lower than SecuROM or Steamworks on my personal annoyed-by-DRM-scale.
Sorry if that bothers you, but my opinion of the matter is mine.
At least it doesn't punt you back to a checkpoint anymore. I still won't be buying it because well, it's Assassin's Creed and it doesn't appeal to me much, but I foresaw some nerd raging occurred with dropped connections on par with when my dog unplugged my PS1 after I went 8 hours without saving on Legend of Dragoon...
That being said, taunting crackers who apparently are much, much better at their jobs than the people who make the DRM doesn't really seem like a great idea. I can't imagine the poor coders who make the DRM have much of a passion for such a job compared to those who do this as a hobby.
That being said, taunting crackers who apparently are much, much better at their jobs than the people who make the DRM doesn't really seem like a great idea. I can't imagine the poor coders who make the DRM have much of a passion for such a job compared to those who do this as a hobby.
They're lying. It WAS cracked, and their amazing 1.1 update was cracked within MINUTES of being released. On authority of RPS - http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/03/04/has-ubis-drm-been-cracked-already/
Ubisoft have their clown heads so far up their asses they wont even admit its failed lol.
Ubisoft have their clown heads so far up their asses they wont even admit its failed lol.
Ubi has said that they could patch the games to remove the DRM should they ever be unable to continue supporting the games via online... however, i can't help but think that if UBI can patch a game to remove the DRM, then a hacker could figure it out aswell and create an offline crack
and if someone has managed to crack the game to where you can play the tutorial, then i think it's a sign that it's only a matter of time till the rest of the game is cracked... and if they keep using this DRM, it may get easier each time since the hackers know what to look for now to make the crack
and if someone has managed to crack the game to where you can play the tutorial, then i think it's a sign that it's only a matter of time till the rest of the game is cracked... and if they keep using this DRM, it may get easier each time since the hackers know what to look for now to make the crack
Too late, Ubisoft. Already canceled my pre-order.
Should've expected shit like this when they didn't release PoP DLC for the Pc version.
Should've expected shit like this when they didn't release PoP DLC for the Pc version.
I'm pretty sure Coldplay make more money because their albums are harder to copy and not because everyone listen to their music, right Ubisoft?
Ha! Im in the torrent and can confirm that both games have been cracked. Dont know if they are complete or not since Im not scum, but Im sure they are since all the comments on them say they work great.
@ destructony
Last I checked games can't make money from concerts, licensing to commercials and movies and other such things. Even merchandise is ten times more limited for gaming than for music. Sorry, but the two relate like apples and rocks.
And no one, NO ONE, should be happy this is pirated. If you want to wish doom on Ubisoft then wish for low sales, not high piracy rates. High piracy rates on Silent Hunter 5, Assassin's Creed 2, Splinter Cell Conviction and The Settlers 7 means two things:
1) Even more strict DRM ideas in the future.
2) Less PC singleplayer games period.
Neither of those things is good at ALL for PC gamers. Not even a little bit. The worst thing for us is for this DRM to result in high piracy rates for those games.
Last I checked games can't make money from concerts, licensing to commercials and movies and other such things. Even merchandise is ten times more limited for gaming than for music. Sorry, but the two relate like apples and rocks.
And no one, NO ONE, should be happy this is pirated. If you want to wish doom on Ubisoft then wish for low sales, not high piracy rates. High piracy rates on Silent Hunter 5, Assassin's Creed 2, Splinter Cell Conviction and The Settlers 7 means two things:
1) Even more strict DRM ideas in the future.
2) Less PC singleplayer games period.
Neither of those things is good at ALL for PC gamers. Not even a little bit. The worst thing for us is for this DRM to result in high piracy rates for those games.
Why cant they take the approach of say Battlefield Bad Company 2? If you don't buy it new you will have to purchase extra maps or DLC. Same for Mass Effect 2. I might be annoying for those that do trading but its much more tolerable of an idea than crazy DRM!
They're just in denial. It's cracked, Ubi. Nothing you can do will change that, just give up this retarded DRM and admit you lost.
@ JFunk
Because they crack the DLC, simple as that.
My main gripe with DRM is that when it doesn't work companies still use it. A week after Mass Effect came out SecuROM was cracked and every game since then has been cracked at launch, so what the hell is the point of using it later on? Customer flogging? Why is that good?
I don't have a problem with DRM that works, I have a problem with DRM that does not. If this is cracked then Ubi should stop using it immediately. It has yet to be proven it has though.
Because they crack the DLC, simple as that.
My main gripe with DRM is that when it doesn't work companies still use it. A week after Mass Effect came out SecuROM was cracked and every game since then has been cracked at launch, so what the hell is the point of using it later on? Customer flogging? Why is that good?
I don't have a problem with DRM that works, I have a problem with DRM that does not. If this is cracked then Ubi should stop using it immediately. It has yet to be proven it has though.
You fools, it's a trap. Now all ubisoft has to do is read the comments and they will learn the location of the pirate stronghold.
They mean unreleased 1.1 isn't cracked. Which is like saying no one has pirated Beyond Good and Evil 2 yet, it is obviously pirate proof.
What will it take for publishers to realize that their goal should be trying to attract pirates to paying for their software, rather than forcing good customers to become pirates?
What will it take for publishers to realize that their goal should be trying to attract pirates to paying for their software, rather than forcing good customers to become pirates?
I quit buying Ubisoft's PC releases after the disastrous SC: Double Agent release. At the time, I was worried that I might be missing out on some good PC titles, but what should I see released soon after? Resident Evil 4 with no mouse support. Suffice to say, it has been easy to follow through with the boycott.
I'm torn about what the best course of action is for all this. Nevertheless, at the end of the day, piracy does hurt the industry in more ways than just causing a french publisher to enact idiotic DRM measures.
On the other hand, if you pay for the game, the message you're sending is that you have no problem with the DRM. On the other hand, not buying the game and/or pirating it tells them that they either need stricter DRM, or to give up on PC developing. I doubt stricter DRMs would be a substantial obstacle, given that this latest bout was cracked in a single day, but no developing... that's a lot harder to crack.
Then again, their PC titles as of late have been pretty shitty. Maybe a boost in PC game sales would convince them to put more effort into developing, or maybe they would just continue to churn out crap knowing that people will buy it anyway.
I'm torn about what the best course of action is for all this. Nevertheless, at the end of the day, piracy does hurt the industry in more ways than just causing a french publisher to enact idiotic DRM measures.
On the other hand, if you pay for the game, the message you're sending is that you have no problem with the DRM. On the other hand, not buying the game and/or pirating it tells them that they either need stricter DRM, or to give up on PC developing. I doubt stricter DRMs would be a substantial obstacle, given that this latest bout was cracked in a single day, but no developing... that's a lot harder to crack.
Then again, their PC titles as of late have been pretty shitty. Maybe a boost in PC game sales would convince them to put more effort into developing, or maybe they would just continue to churn out crap knowing that people will buy it anyway.
Silent Hunter 5 is working fine.
Assassin's creed 2 is not out yet and therefore not cracked.
Pretty blatant lies there ubisoft.
Assassin's creed 2 is not out yet and therefore not cracked.
Pretty blatant lies there ubisoft.
I must have a cracked version of Assassin's Creed 2 for X360, because it was missing a whole chapter. Incomplete is right.
@flea friend
It's a catch 22, gamers seem to get screwed by these a lot. Buying it supports DRM, pirating it vindicates them, and not buying it could drive them out of business in time (unless they learn the lesson quick), or alternatively, it can cause them to discontinue a well liked franchise believing it unpopular.
MW2 is an example of this, enough copies have been sold that they believe the way their game was released was good and proper. They have no business justification for adding dedicated servers, or balancing the game, or fixing matchmaking. Sad really, more and more game companies seem to be getting out of touch with their market.
It's a catch 22, gamers seem to get screwed by these a lot. Buying it supports DRM, pirating it vindicates them, and not buying it could drive them out of business in time (unless they learn the lesson quick), or alternatively, it can cause them to discontinue a well liked franchise believing it unpopular.
MW2 is an example of this, enough copies have been sold that they believe the way their game was released was good and proper. They have no business justification for adding dedicated servers, or balancing the game, or fixing matchmaking. Sad really, more and more game companies seem to be getting out of touch with their market.
Announcing this with a statement regarding how full proof there DRM now, is the worst thing Ubisoft could have done. A pirate will see this as a challenge and there's nothing more a pirate like than a challenge.
ASSASSINS CREED II = 4'5
Who cares about that crap game? They should pay you to play it, they should connect to your pc and beg for you to play it, oh wait they actually do.
Who cares about that crap game? They should pay you to play it, they should connect to your pc and beg for you to play it, oh wait they actually do.
No chance I'll be considering buying ANY of their games until they drop this sh*t.
This ISN'T the 2010 solution to games piracy.
This ISN'T the 2010 solution to games piracy.
There's even more to this than the excellent points made by some of us regarding the long term effects of people accepting the drm or cracking groups cracking it (I do not condone piracy - but I differentiate between a sharezer / warezer and a pirate - pirates are looking for money, the former two are "shareing"; both are illegal, yes, but a pirate is a whole different animal). Anyway, what if developers go completely console? Guess what...
Console games are easier to crack than PC games. There isn't much talk about how many console games are being illegally shared and pirated, but I happen to know for a fact that every game you can buy in the store can be downloaded, burned and played on a "modded" console. And the arguement that the games are too big to do so is irrelevant, because there are actually very few console games that are using the massive space on a blu-ray disk, for example. Xbox 360 still uses DVD9, and people are using usb drives to play shared games on the Wii. Not only that, but the cracking groups seemed to be very good at ripping out the stuff that adds unnecessary space to a game (much of which is security software... you won't believe how much security software adds to a game!).
So it is really easier to crack consoles than PC games - with consoles you crack the console security once and then the entire library is available. With a PC you have to crack each game individually. You might say that the console's complexity makes it harder to do - but put all of the time it takes to crack all of the individual games, on the PC and it makes more sense. So would it make sense for developers to leave the PC market "en masse"? No, that would be a major mistake, and they would see the uselessness of it once the crackers have no choice but to concentrate 100% on cracking consoles.
The game companies are as much to blame for the trend. They will never get 100% paying customer base, but adding to the cost of a game with these buggy security measures doesn't help the cause. They have to come to grips with the fact that no matter how much money they throw at it, or no matter what strategy they come out with, the game will eventually be cracked - and throw teir hopes of making a profit from pirates and shares out the window. That's just the cost of doing business.
Console games are easier to crack than PC games. There isn't much talk about how many console games are being illegally shared and pirated, but I happen to know for a fact that every game you can buy in the store can be downloaded, burned and played on a "modded" console. And the arguement that the games are too big to do so is irrelevant, because there are actually very few console games that are using the massive space on a blu-ray disk, for example. Xbox 360 still uses DVD9, and people are using usb drives to play shared games on the Wii. Not only that, but the cracking groups seemed to be very good at ripping out the stuff that adds unnecessary space to a game (much of which is security software... you won't believe how much security software adds to a game!).
So it is really easier to crack consoles than PC games - with consoles you crack the console security once and then the entire library is available. With a PC you have to crack each game individually. You might say that the console's complexity makes it harder to do - but put all of the time it takes to crack all of the individual games, on the PC and it makes more sense. So would it make sense for developers to leave the PC market "en masse"? No, that would be a major mistake, and they would see the uselessness of it once the crackers have no choice but to concentrate 100% on cracking consoles.
The game companies are as much to blame for the trend. They will never get 100% paying customer base, but adding to the cost of a game with these buggy security measures doesn't help the cause. They have to come to grips with the fact that no matter how much money they throw at it, or no matter what strategy they come out with, the game will eventually be cracked - and throw teir hopes of making a profit from pirates and shares out the window. That's just the cost of doing business.
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