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I knew Epic had to be lying. I mean, the iPhone can run Unreal Engine 3 but not the 3DS?! Yeah, right. Wonder how Epic Games will react to this? "Ohhh, yeah, forgot about that. Well, uhhh, I guess we made a mistake. Oops."
To be fair, one is talking about Unreal 3, while the other is talking about remaking a game created on Unreal 2.5. To me, there's a big difference in those versions. It's a tad pedantic and vague with the facts, but hey, devs will say anything for column inches nowadays.
Hey, remember when Infinty Ward said that the Wii could never run COD 4 because it couldn't handle it but then treyarch proved them wrong?
This is kind of like that.
This is kind of like that.
Yeah, maybe Ubisoft should point out that it's
not the version of the unreal engine that Epic said wouldn't run. And i don't think it's a matter of laziness OR giving up to easily, rather it's a matter of not working backwards. Epic is working with newer tech. What possible benefit comes from backtracking to meet Nintendo's low hardware standards? But whatever, fanboys are gonna see this as some sort of personal victory when in reality it's simple business. You don't make progress back tracking.
not the version of the unreal engine that Epic said wouldn't run. And i don't think it's a matter of laziness OR giving up to easily, rather it's a matter of not working backwards. Epic is working with newer tech. What possible benefit comes from backtracking to meet Nintendo's low hardware standards? But whatever, fanboys are gonna see this as some sort of personal victory when in reality it's simple business. You don't make progress back tracking.
Fuck epic? they made the damn engine, I doubt they meant to be understood as the 3ds wouldnt be able to run it, they probley thought it wasnt suitable enough for gaming
Haha you all jumped on the "fuck Epic" bandwagon before you even knew all the details. My shitty old computer from 7 years ago can run the Unreal 2 engine!
Nice. When I read the statement from Mark Rein I had the feeling he's just talking bullshit. I mean, UE is very scalable, so technically it runs on any machine. But apparently nobody is talking about how many polys or effects you really want to show on the screen.
Maybe Epic just doesn't want a 3DS game that looks like a PSX game. I'm really not sure. The stuff I have seen on the 3DS wasn't that bad but nowhere near something like Infinity Blade.
Maybe Epic just doesn't want a 3DS game that looks like a PSX game. I'm really not sure. The stuff I have seen on the 3DS wasn't that bad but nowhere near something like Infinity Blade.
@ShotgunDiplom4t
Yeah, you're right, what's the point of trying to make anything compatible for a particular system? Epic in the future should only make their engines useful for multi-million-dollar super computers.
Yeah, you're right, what's the point of trying to make anything compatible for a particular system? Epic in the future should only make their engines useful for multi-million-dollar super computers.
@Nanowerx
Didnt you know? Fanboy brains are all impulse. Hate first, avoid admitting being wrong later.
Didnt you know? Fanboy brains are all impulse. Hate first, avoid admitting being wrong later.
I'm pretty sure Mark Rein knows the limitations of his engine. Could be that he just doesn't want to work with his engine on the 3ds.
No wonder Splinter Cell 3D looks shite. Still, if Capcom can make their MT Framework work on the 3DS you'd think there'd be some way of making the Unreal Engine 3 run on it, but hey, what do I know? Rein could be right.
Does anyone know if the 3DS actually has enough power to conceivably run UE3? Or is it something that would have to be downgraded so much it'd be an act of pointlessness? I'd be curious to know, as I have no knowledge of stuff like this.
Does anyone know if the 3DS actually has enough power to conceivably run UE3? Or is it something that would have to be downgraded so much it'd be an act of pointlessness? I'd be curious to know, as I have no knowledge of stuff like this.
@ Everyone making fun of people who are hating on Epic
Honestly I think Jim is partially to be blamed, he himself made it seem as if Ubisoft had the UE3 running on 3DS. He never specified which engine it was, it seems that he never even knew which engine it was in the first place.
Still, people shouldn't have jumped on the epic hate train so quickly.
Honestly I think Jim is partially to be blamed, he himself made it seem as if Ubisoft had the UE3 running on 3DS. He never specified which engine it was, it seems that he never even knew which engine it was in the first place.
Still, people shouldn't have jumped on the epic hate train so quickly.
@Wolfy-Boey
I hate Epic because Cliffy is a douchenozzle and the whole snobby "our engine is too advanced for your little plastic toy" mentality is really ugly. Unreal's a nice engine, but it's a company of assholes.
I hate Epic because Cliffy is a douchenozzle and the whole snobby "our engine is too advanced for your little plastic toy" mentality is really ugly. Unreal's a nice engine, but it's a company of assholes.
@Bakewell,
Unreal Engine was supposedly impossible on the wii too, and then John Carmack said that they've managed to port entire Rage on the WII parts of which were later ported to the iPhone.
@Noir Trilby,
both Bioshock games were based on Unreal Engine 2.5 just like both Red Steel games, Killing Floor, Duke Nukem Forever, Splinter Cell Conviction or Double Agent and this game to this day looks good on original xbox.
Unreal Engine was supposedly impossible on the wii too, and then John Carmack said that they've managed to port entire Rage on the WII parts of which were later ported to the iPhone.
@Noir Trilby,
both Bioshock games were based on Unreal Engine 2.5 just like both Red Steel games, Killing Floor, Duke Nukem Forever, Splinter Cell Conviction or Double Agent and this game to this day looks good on original xbox.
@SkullLeader: Its a company of assholes because of one guy? Hes a douche for sure but Epic deserves respect for all theyve done.
I hate Epic for they where not able to port the original Unreal Tournament on my Gameboy Color back in 1999.
I find it funny that Epic were so quick to dismiss this rumor. As if they wanted to make it sure as quickly as possible that their UE3 does not work on the 3DS.
Not having Epic's support however is quite a hit against the 3DS, whether you like them or not.
Not having Epic's support however is quite a hit against the 3DS, whether you like them or not.
@soffik
I don't doubt that man but what I said was....... "he just doesn't want to work with his engine on the 3ds"
I'm sure he doesn't mind other devs using the unreal engine on the 3rd but I suspect (and made clear in my first comment) that is appears epic doesn't want to do that.
I don't doubt that man but what I said was....... "he just doesn't want to work with his engine on the 3ds"
I'm sure he doesn't mind other devs using the unreal engine on the 3rd but I suspect (and made clear in my first comment) that is appears epic doesn't want to do that.
@sofik88
That's interesting. I didn't realise both Bioshock games used Unreal Engine 2.5 - I mean they both still hold up really well. Thanks for the info!
That's interesting. I didn't realise both Bioshock games used Unreal Engine 2.5 - I mean they both still hold up really well. Thanks for the info!
Yeah but they didn't specify which version of unreal they have running on the system. Splinter cell 3DS looks like a lazy port just to cash in on the ocasion. If is the unreal engine 2.5 at least I will be happy.
God I'd love to hit all you guys a slap. Seriously who gives a flying parasailing donkey? Its chaos theory, its brilliant. And Jim do your homework.
It's just a matter of time to get a UE3 engine to run on 3DS. As we can always do a optimization for a game. IMO, the MT framework which used in Resident Evil Revelation is not worse than UE3. I think Epic is just too lazy(or Nintento didn't give them enough money?) and don't want to do a optimized version of UE3 like what they did on those iDevices. Yeah, maybe iDevices is more powerful in hardware, but "no way to run UE3 on 3DS" is just an excuse.
@ sofik88: Read this and then go back and read your ridiculous comment. Sure, you're somewhat right about Splinter Cell: Conviction, but not quite. Even that game used Ubisofts own engine they created off of the back of UE2. Not quite the same thing.
Take a look at the pictures of Resident Evil: Mercenaries 3D. They're not as pretty as Resident Evil 5.
@ All the Epic haters: You people need to get a life. This company has never done anything wrong or anything to hurt you. They are very good at what they do and it's not their fault that their ideals aren't the same as Nintendo's. Cliffy B is who he is, he doesn't have to be the same as all of you. He's not going around talking shit about everybody. There's nothing wrong with flaunting and being proud of your extremely high quality games. I've heard him say shit about Zelda influencing him and stuff. He just doesn't want to make those games.
What the fuck is wrong with that? And sure, Rein can be a bit arrogant, but if you ask the fucking guy what he thinks about something should he lie to be civil or just tell you how he feels? I'd hope you'd want people to be honest in this world.
Gamers are so fucking spoiled and entitled. Who the fuck died and made you guys the fucking Elder Council of Gaming? God forbid that the people who make big dumb shooters have an opinion or are intelligent or any of that. No, they're just insensitive assholes who are destroying your precious hobby by associating you with mindless shooters, right?
I thought only PC gamers were supposed to be elitist?
Take a look at the pictures of Resident Evil: Mercenaries 3D. They're not as pretty as Resident Evil 5.
@ All the Epic haters: You people need to get a life. This company has never done anything wrong or anything to hurt you. They are very good at what they do and it's not their fault that their ideals aren't the same as Nintendo's. Cliffy B is who he is, he doesn't have to be the same as all of you. He's not going around talking shit about everybody. There's nothing wrong with flaunting and being proud of your extremely high quality games. I've heard him say shit about Zelda influencing him and stuff. He just doesn't want to make those games.
What the fuck is wrong with that? And sure, Rein can be a bit arrogant, but if you ask the fucking guy what he thinks about something should he lie to be civil or just tell you how he feels? I'd hope you'd want people to be honest in this world.
Gamers are so fucking spoiled and entitled. Who the fuck died and made you guys the fucking Elder Council of Gaming? God forbid that the people who make big dumb shooters have an opinion or are intelligent or any of that. No, they're just insensitive assholes who are destroying your precious hobby by associating you with mindless shooters, right?
I thought only PC gamers were supposed to be elitist?
so 3ds can handle unreal 2.5??( bioshock 1 and 2,splinter cell series) or just unreal engine 2 http://www.unrealengine.com/showcase/bioshock_2
Honestly, I still don't believe the Unreal 3 engine can't run on the 3DS. I'll call bullshit on that until they actually "get it working."
I figured you were talking about Chaos Thoery and was going to mention it ran on Unreal 2.5, but I see you found that out. I still think the 3DS is more than capable of handling UE3, but what the hell do I know?
@EternalDeathSlayer
Everything you just said is perfect. I can't fault a single thing you've just posted.
This misplaced sense of entitlement added to the massive amount of people who seem to think that the industry owes them a favour is sickening.
This kind of shit makes me think that the online blog side of gaming is something I want no part in.
I love games. I love reading about and talking about games. That's why I joined. Most the time all I see are spoiled brats talking shit. It's a sorry state of affairs.
Everything you just said is perfect. I can't fault a single thing you've just posted.
This misplaced sense of entitlement added to the massive amount of people who seem to think that the industry owes them a favour is sickening.
This kind of shit makes me think that the online blog side of gaming is something I want no part in.
I love games. I love reading about and talking about games. That's why I joined. Most the time all I see are spoiled brats talking shit. It's a sorry state of affairs.
@EternalDeathSlayer
I don't have an issue with what you said, for the most part. If Epic doesn't think it's worth optimizing Unreal 3 for 3DS then that is their call. Likewise, if someone does alter Unreal 3 to run on a 3DS then kudos to them, but to fault Epic would be childish. We're talking about businesses who have their own sets of goals and priorities. What they want to do is totally up to them.
HOWEVER.
That Cliffy B. guy once said "buttons square, triangle--it's like putting Kanji on the ******* thing" when talking about the Playstation controller. I still consider that to be one of the stupidest things I've ever read in my life. Like, it actually physically twists my brain level of stupid.
I don't have an issue with what you said, for the most part. If Epic doesn't think it's worth optimizing Unreal 3 for 3DS then that is their call. Likewise, if someone does alter Unreal 3 to run on a 3DS then kudos to them, but to fault Epic would be childish. We're talking about businesses who have their own sets of goals and priorities. What they want to do is totally up to them.
HOWEVER.
That Cliffy B. guy once said "buttons square, triangle--it's like putting Kanji on the ******* thing" when talking about the Playstation controller. I still consider that to be one of the stupidest things I've ever read in my life. Like, it actually physically twists my brain level of stupid.
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