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This is going to be bad if they don't back off. I love how they use the term "YOUR game" when it's really their game because they hold all the marbles with this DRM scheme, if it comes to pass.
Are some people honestly so ignorant they don't know that pirates will crack this before the game even comes out and then all this will do is fuck over paying customers. Were the fuck have you people been for the past couple of decades? Do you not understand how the internet works?
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@wardprod my country is pretty crappy trust me, that does not top me form having a stable connection.
you dont need something super fast, you just need something reliable , as in does not crash every 20 mins. i bet the majority of the people affected bey this DRM do have a decent internet connection.
most of all, Ubisoft does not need you or me to tell them how to lead their business. they know that they need to do something about piracy before its too late.
if it fails, they ditch it.
if it works, you can thank Ubisoft for making PC a viable platform again.
you dont need something super fast, you just need something reliable , as in does not crash every 20 mins. i bet the majority of the people affected bey this DRM do have a decent internet connection.
most of all, Ubisoft does not need you or me to tell them how to lead their business. they know that they need to do something about piracy before its too late.
if it fails, they ditch it.
if it works, you can thank Ubisoft for making PC a viable platform again.
@eduh
"if it works, you can thank Ubisoft for making PC a viable platform again."
You've never heard of or seen STEAM in your life have you?
"if it works, you can thank Ubisoft for making PC a viable platform again."
You've never heard of or seen STEAM in your life have you?
They are about to loose a whole lot of customers, plus, I bet my left nut it's gonna be cracked.
It's bizarre.
It's bizarre.
@MacV
If your internet fails during a game, Steam instantly asks if you want to go into offline mode. You can't compare this tripe to the Steam method.
If your internet fails during a game, Steam instantly asks if you want to go into offline mode. You can't compare this tripe to the Steam method.
@goldengamerxero not sure what you mean, but steam games get cracked as fast as retail games. Steam is doing an amazing job boosting the PC gaming market, buts its still not enough, thats why Ubisoft is trying to come up with something more efficient.
interview with Ubisoft about this DRM: http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=235596&site=pcg
interview with Ubisoft about this DRM: http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=235596&site=pcg
@eduh
What? Make pc a viable platform again? This statement breaks all the limits on the word FAIL. And with what GoldenGamerXero said, Steam has been a solid part of the pc gaming comunity, and will always better than DRM.
What? Make pc a viable platform again? This statement breaks all the limits on the word FAIL. And with what GoldenGamerXero said, Steam has been a solid part of the pc gaming comunity, and will always better than DRM.
@eduh
Actually that interview for me feels like it may actually confirm that this DRM will be cracked. It seems they are capable of patching the game so that players can play offline. However, what i feel this may mean that hackers will be able to do the same... if Ubi can patch in an offline mode, then i do think hackers will be able to figure it out aswell
Actually that interview for me feels like it may actually confirm that this DRM will be cracked. It seems they are capable of patching the game so that players can play offline. However, what i feel this may mean that hackers will be able to do the same... if Ubi can patch in an offline mode, then i do think hackers will be able to figure it out aswell
Disagree, Ubisoft will have fuckloads of people on board. I mean, I love being punished for buying software! You guys must be wrong in the head.
@mjemirzian
Wait, you forgot about the DRM licenses for you hand-me downs. Don't want those ungrateful, whinny, 5 year olds wearing clothes now do we?
Wait, you forgot about the DRM licenses for you hand-me downs. Don't want those ungrateful, whinny, 5 year olds wearing clothes now do we?
This is the same approach all authority takes to unfavourable behaviour. It's the same as laws. If you don't want someone to do something you tell them not to do it, you say it's against the rules, instead of making them want to do the right thing.
Steam doesn't just try to protect the authors, it makes the customer think they are getting a great deal. Sales, pre-loads, other incentives all make you want to purchase the game. Being right there at your desk is another great hook. I have purchased a lot more games in the past few years on steam than I have in a store. You have a huge library of games, new and old, all with metascores and a link to all the reviews. It's an amazing convenience. It's not perfect but projecting that image of getting a great deal goes a long way.
That's what it is. We all value things differently and the huge number of pirates must believe that these things are not worth their money. So these companies have two options:
- Make their products more appealling/Better value
- Ignore piracy
Not that either will happen. Just like crime, the people in charge can never figure a solution in their constant futile battle.
Steam doesn't just try to protect the authors, it makes the customer think they are getting a great deal. Sales, pre-loads, other incentives all make you want to purchase the game. Being right there at your desk is another great hook. I have purchased a lot more games in the past few years on steam than I have in a store. You have a huge library of games, new and old, all with metascores and a link to all the reviews. It's an amazing convenience. It's not perfect but projecting that image of getting a great deal goes a long way.
That's what it is. We all value things differently and the huge number of pirates must believe that these things are not worth their money. So these companies have two options:
- Make their products more appealling/Better value
- Ignore piracy
Not that either will happen. Just like crime, the people in charge can never figure a solution in their constant futile battle.
I know my Assassins Creed 2 on 360, which I played off the hard drive, would freeze every...oh, I'd say somewhere between 45 minutes to an hour.
At first I thought it was the bug to end all bugs, the game finally reaching unplayable after all the other bugs I was enduring for the good stuff underneath.
But I stumbled upon the fact that when I wasn't logged into LIVE, the game never froze.
So either LIVE or Ubisoft was causing my single player game to freeze on a fairly regular basis.
And to not make it all about Ubisoft, I noticed the same thing with Dragon Age and probably from Bio-ware's servers (also played on 360 off the hard drive). Game would freeze every couple of hours. But pull out the broadband....never froze.
So to any of you developers and publishers who lurk through these threads, and I know you do, here's a sarcastic salute above the table and a middle finger under the table both in your direction for the stellar job of making a game freeze when on it's own it runs fine.
Still as smart as this industry has ever been, I see. Maybe with your next games you can manage to reward your customers with some wiped hard drives? If anyone is capable, it's a videogame developer.
At first I thought it was the bug to end all bugs, the game finally reaching unplayable after all the other bugs I was enduring for the good stuff underneath.
But I stumbled upon the fact that when I wasn't logged into LIVE, the game never froze.
So either LIVE or Ubisoft was causing my single player game to freeze on a fairly regular basis.
And to not make it all about Ubisoft, I noticed the same thing with Dragon Age and probably from Bio-ware's servers (also played on 360 off the hard drive). Game would freeze every couple of hours. But pull out the broadband....never froze.
So to any of you developers and publishers who lurk through these threads, and I know you do, here's a sarcastic salute above the table and a middle finger under the table both in your direction for the stellar job of making a game freeze when on it's own it runs fine.
Still as smart as this industry has ever been, I see. Maybe with your next games you can manage to reward your customers with some wiped hard drives? If anyone is capable, it's a videogame developer.
Coming soon to a Sony and Microsoft product. Ubisoft games that require you to be connected to Sony Home and xbox live to play their games.
3 Days after the game is released. Pirates will have the game cracked and an internet connect will not be required.
3 Days after the game is released. Pirates will have the game cracked and an internet connect will not be required.
There is NO technical reason in the world that a single player game should require constant internet communication. Explaining how the intrusive software actually works does not make it less intrusive and certainly doesn not make the practice any more acceptable.
Does the X360 versions of AC2 crap out if you have DLC installed and disconnect your X360 or is this only a PC issue?
Does the X360 versions of AC2 crap out if you have DLC installed and disconnect your X360 or is this only a PC issue?
@eduh
Effective DRM is theoretically impossible. Period. You can't both trust and not trust the same system.
Because of this there is one and only one uncrackable scheme. Client sends up controller info, server sends down graphics and sound. Nothing game specific ever runs on the client. The only uncrackable code is the code you don't have access to.
Effective DRM is theoretically impossible. Period. You can't both trust and not trust the same system.
Because of this there is one and only one uncrackable scheme. Client sends up controller info, server sends down graphics and sound. Nothing game specific ever runs on the client. The only uncrackable code is the code you don't have access to.
Again, do they think pirates *aren't* going to crack this? Sure, it might take two weeks, but considering Ubi's PC offerings are usually months later ports of console games, playing it on launch day isn't a real draw.
And, once it's cracked, I'm given a choice between a game that works 100% of the time and a game that crashes and resets my progress arbitrarily. I'm not a pirate (I'll pirate old games not on Good Old Games, but I don't think that's here nor there), but Ubisoft has basically said, "Hey pirates! You're getting the later, but better, experience!"
And, once it's cracked, I'm given a choice between a game that works 100% of the time and a game that crashes and resets my progress arbitrarily. I'm not a pirate (I'll pirate old games not on Good Old Games, but I don't think that's here nor there), but Ubisoft has basically said, "Hey pirates! You're getting the later, but better, experience!"
I was going to wait and get it for the PC,but once I saw this article I went on Newegg and bought it for the PS3 for $23 off the original price.
Wow I didn't know the extent to the DRM. That sounds useless... :\ Won't be buying any Ubisoft games for PC anytime soon...
This is "good DRM"? What's it going to do? It wouldn't have made a difference anyway, but instead they give everyone something to complain about because of how absurd it is.
And here we thought Activision were idiotic bastards. Wait, they still are. But Ubisoft is taking the top spot now.
I feel the Destructoid community if often looked down upon as a crass and lawless brood. Looks like Penny Arcade's Tycho was wrong though. He said there's no discussion of DRM on the web that doesn't go past the third comment without somebody proclaiming their intent to pirate the game because of the DRM.
People here have mentioned the option and increased likelihood, but nobody's flown off the handle in 77 comments and taken the, "Well, fuck Ubi, I'll just pirate it!" stance. Bravo, D-toid. Bravo!
People here have mentioned the option and increased likelihood, but nobody's flown off the handle in 77 comments and taken the, "Well, fuck Ubi, I'll just pirate it!" stance. Bravo, D-toid. Bravo!
Legitimate customers will buy the game and then download the cracked version. Ubi will count that towards their "14 million people pirated this game, so we should've made more money" bullshit that they'll feed to their investors.
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This is a brilliant move, they say piracy is the biggest problem with PC gaming, so, they make a game so ass-tighted that, even the legal buyers will be forced to hack it, providing undeniable proof that they were right since the begining.
Pure genius, Ubi, I , for one, welcome our new overlords.
Pure genius, Ubi, I , for one, welcome our new overlords.
Thanks, Ubisoft. I was totally going to pirate your game anyways, but now I have a reason to pretend I'm doing it for some higher cause.
This drm is going to have the exact opposite effect of what they want to achieve with it. Instead of lowering piracy of ubisoft titles we could very well be looking at a situation where 90% or higher of their pc version games get pirated. Its almost like they are artificially trying to increase piracy so they can say "look look see, we do all this and they still steal our games NO MORE GAMES FOR JOO PC GAMERS!" >_<
Regular drm I can handle, but this drm I can not because I live in aus, my connection drops out frequently enough that this IS going to be a problem should I buy any future ubisoft titles. If they don't change this drm I and my fellow pc gamer friends will not be buying any future ubisoft games, and unlike the asshole pirates we wont be pirating out of some misplaced sense of justice either. I suppose I should be glad I was never terribly excited to play AssCreed2 or SplinterCell.
Regular drm I can handle, but this drm I can not because I live in aus, my connection drops out frequently enough that this IS going to be a problem should I buy any future ubisoft titles. If they don't change this drm I and my fellow pc gamer friends will not be buying any future ubisoft games, and unlike the asshole pirates we wont be pirating out of some misplaced sense of justice either. I suppose I should be glad I was never terribly excited to play AssCreed2 or SplinterCell.
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