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So, if I'm at a party, and I have a real electric guitar, the last thing I'm going to want to do is fire up a game to play my real electric guitar. I'll just play the guitar.
Am I missing something here? Is the solution to the current plastic guitar saturation situation is to encourage people to buy real instruments?
Am I missing something here? Is the solution to the current plastic guitar saturation situation is to encourage people to buy real instruments?
Ubisoft Employee #1: Hey guys! There's this ship that was deemed 'unsinkable'!
Ubisoft Employee #2: No way! We should make our own ship!
Ubisoft Employee #2: No way! We should make our own ship!
Also, the fact that not even a game like "Rocksmith" gets a Wii version signals that the Wii really is in a dire situation.
So the "controller" is the cord you plug into the guitar. Interesting. I think I'll wait to see what the interface looks like (outside of this one bullshot).
This internetts me loads. As a guitarist of like 18 years, always looking for new stuff to learn, if I can use this as a tuition tool I'm in.
I was well into the rock band 3 pro guitar, but man is that thing expensive. Normal guitars? Got plenty of those!
Colour me internetted.
I was well into the rock band 3 pro guitar, but man is that thing expensive. Normal guitars? Got plenty of those!
Colour me internetted.
Don't buy this guys, buy Rock Band 3.... Casualweapony - they say it is NOT a casual, party game.Reading is always helpful.
Also, if you are the kind of guy who brings his guitar to parties, then yesshg.
Sexualchocolate - I just got the RB3 pro guitar at the beginning of the month, it's AWESOME. If you are into music, remember that it also outputs MIDI. You've never played a solo unless it was doubled by a crazy synth part! LOL If you like music, you'd be wise to consider RB3 for its selection and other instruments (keyboard, pro-drums, vocals and harmonies) and the pro-guitar works with pro-bass mode.
Also, if you are the kind of guy who brings his guitar to parties, then yesshg.
Sexualchocolate - I just got the RB3 pro guitar at the beginning of the month, it's AWESOME. If you are into music, remember that it also outputs MIDI. You've never played a solo unless it was doubled by a crazy synth part! LOL If you like music, you'd be wise to consider RB3 for its selection and other instruments (keyboard, pro-drums, vocals and harmonies) and the pro-guitar works with pro-bass mode.
I'm interested. I have guitars so Rock Band 3 was a turn off because I did not want to buy yet another. But if I could pay for just the game, that would be great. Then again, it would depend on the interface and song selection. I kind of wonder how good song selection would be.
Only thing that I think is cool about this is the fact that you can use your own electric guitar to hook up to the game. Other than that, this seems destined to fail. If Guitar Hero & Rock Band, the two biggest names in the game, aren't selling, what makes you think this will?
Oh and remember PowerGig: Rise of the Six String? Me neither.
Oh and remember PowerGig: Rise of the Six String? Me neither.
Colour me interested. I own a real guitar already so I would definitely try this out... The Animals and The Rolling Stones on board is also a good sign.
@LeviticusKitty thanks for the tip about reading. How about I give you one about not being a douche?
My point still stands. As a guitar player (yes I bring it to local parties, it's a chick magnet), it still makes no sense. A $200 bundle gets you a single player experience, or a full RB kit. Still, some guitar players here are interested, so maybe I did miss something.
My point still stands. As a guitar player (yes I bring it to local parties, it's a chick magnet), it still makes no sense. A $200 bundle gets you a single player experience, or a full RB kit. Still, some guitar players here are interested, so maybe I did miss something.
@casualweaponry
I dont know, I'm too lazy to learn songs on my own anymore. So if this provides a decent way to learn songs with the rest of the track playing in the background, I'd be interested. Also, a decent solo system could be awesome.
I dont know, I'm too lazy to learn songs on my own anymore. So if this provides a decent way to learn songs with the rest of the track playing in the background, I'd be interested. Also, a decent solo system could be awesome.
I'm with tuoman..
Though you don't need a game to learn songs (especially Nirvana LOL) It "could" make a good learning tool-aid for harder Guitar tracks..
Plus It might be a good way to keep beginners interested in learning a real instrument.Unlike that Guitar Hero trash LOL
Though you don't need a game to learn songs (especially Nirvana LOL) It "could" make a good learning tool-aid for harder Guitar tracks..
Plus It might be a good way to keep beginners interested in learning a real instrument.Unlike that Guitar Hero trash LOL
This sounds really cool. In another breaking news evil game publisher Activision announces Call of Smith, a game where you use real weapons. Activision are reportedly in talks with weapon manufactor Heckler and Koch for an 200$ bundle deal with exclusive dlc for the Xbox 360.
@ SirNinjaFace Ya know that's not a bad idea.
The Playstation eye or Kinect camera,and automatic youtube uploads would also need to be required.
This would actually make the COD series worth playing,"I mean" watching LOL
The Playstation eye or Kinect camera,and automatic youtube uploads would also need to be required.
This would actually make the COD series worth playing,"I mean" watching LOL
@casualweaponry
Like tuoman said, this seems like a good learning tool more than a game. Nothing wrong with that.
Like tuoman said, this seems like a good learning tool more than a game. Nothing wrong with that.
@LeviticusKitty - Thanks dude, I have RB3, love it.
But I just can't shell out that cash for a Strat copy. Midi out or not, RB3 compatibility or not, I have my eye on a Fender American Telecaster, and just cannot sacrifice a real guitar for a game controller/guitar. Bummer i know, I'd love both.
This though looks like it may provide a middle ground.
I'm suspicious of how good it works though, because doesn't the RB3 guitar have some special fretboard that "knows" where your fingers are?
I can't imagine that this will know without you playing the note... possibly the wrong note, sounding shit. Like the rockband guitar let's you "find" the right note without playing it - right?
But I just can't shell out that cash for a Strat copy. Midi out or not, RB3 compatibility or not, I have my eye on a Fender American Telecaster, and just cannot sacrifice a real guitar for a game controller/guitar. Bummer i know, I'd love both.
This though looks like it may provide a middle ground.
I'm suspicious of how good it works though, because doesn't the RB3 guitar have some special fretboard that "knows" where your fingers are?
I can't imagine that this will know without you playing the note... possibly the wrong note, sounding shit. Like the rockband guitar let's you "find" the right note without playing it - right?
@SirNinjaFace Just one more reason for the camera requirement..
It's called thinning the herd..Get rid of the COD fanbase and we might just see better mulitplayer games.. ;)
It's called thinning the herd..Get rid of the COD fanbase and we might just see better mulitplayer games.. ;)
I don't like using the phrase, "missed the boat." But, um, this kinda misses the boat.
I liked this game the first time when it was called PowerRig. I also liked this game the second time when it was called Rock Band 3.
I liked this game the first time when it was called PowerRig. I also liked this game the second time when it was called Rock Band 3.
You won't see Gibson putting out a $200 guitar & game bundle unless the guitar in question is an Epiphone Les Paul Junior or Special II (both of which are bottom-of-the-barrel shite that I wouldn't want to inflict on any new player). Regardless of brand though, at that price point ($200 - $60 for the game because they'll take MSRP into account, minus howevere much this adapter costs which is probably $30-give-or-take going by the various guitar-to-PC adapters there are around now), you'r eloking at a $110 ont he guitar, not including markup of course. Anyone who knows anything about guitars knows that $110 won't even buy you a crap set of tuners, one middle-of-the-road pickup and a set of strings. So they're going to be cutting corners like crazy there.
As for how it will work, it's actually very simple. It would, I assume, work just like a tuner. You play a note, the system recognises what note that is and if you played the right thing, that'll count. I would assume they won't make it demand full accuracy, to account for people not keeping the guitar perfectly in tune, crap intonation, that sort of thing. There are already lots of systems that allow you to plug a guitar into a computer - I've got one sat on my desk here right now. There's no latency (even though mine has to go guitar > 10ft cable > port > 5ft cable > crap laptop > software > 5ft cable > port > 2x 20ft cable > studio monitors) and it can be far more accurate than any standalone digital tuner or the human ear can be.
I'm certainly more interested in this than that pile of wank, sorry excuse for a "guitar" that is the RB3 Squier controller. That said, I don't know what its market is. New players can be turned off very quickly by a cheap guitar (and they'll be the ones buying whatever bundle comes out) and playing with tabs - and in this case, effectively automated tabs because we know there's not going to be any ear training in this, it would defeat the point - is just about the most terrible way to learn how to play guitar. People who can actually already play guitar decently won't have any use for it either - who needs a game to bang out a bit of Nirvana, really? Even if you don't have a band and you just want to playa long with something at home, backing tracks are all over the internet.
The technology is fun (if not actually all that new), this is a step in the right direction and I'll keep my eye on it. At the moment though it's a pretty bizarre idea and I can't see it doing well.
As for how it will work, it's actually very simple. It would, I assume, work just like a tuner. You play a note, the system recognises what note that is and if you played the right thing, that'll count. I would assume they won't make it demand full accuracy, to account for people not keeping the guitar perfectly in tune, crap intonation, that sort of thing. There are already lots of systems that allow you to plug a guitar into a computer - I've got one sat on my desk here right now. There's no latency (even though mine has to go guitar > 10ft cable > port > 5ft cable > crap laptop > software > 5ft cable > port > 2x 20ft cable > studio monitors) and it can be far more accurate than any standalone digital tuner or the human ear can be.
I'm certainly more interested in this than that pile of wank, sorry excuse for a "guitar" that is the RB3 Squier controller. That said, I don't know what its market is. New players can be turned off very quickly by a cheap guitar (and they'll be the ones buying whatever bundle comes out) and playing with tabs - and in this case, effectively automated tabs because we know there's not going to be any ear training in this, it would defeat the point - is just about the most terrible way to learn how to play guitar. People who can actually already play guitar decently won't have any use for it either - who needs a game to bang out a bit of Nirvana, really? Even if you don't have a band and you just want to playa long with something at home, backing tracks are all over the internet.
The technology is fun (if not actually all that new), this is a step in the right direction and I'll keep my eye on it. At the moment though it's a pretty bizarre idea and I can't see it doing well.
All I can think about is where all the cords are in that picture. How is the PS3 connected to the TV? Where is the TV plugged in?
Oh ho ho ho. From the publishers that brought you such music gaming masterpieces like Michael Jackson: The Experience...
sexualchocolate - that 'strat copy' is an actual fender squire strat... it's not a fake one... it's made by fender. the only downside is it has small colored buttons and a cross pad on the front. it also has a regular instrument out jack in addition to midi. it's a real effin' guitar.
casualweaponry - Don't say 'don't be a douche' and "i bring my guitar to parties because it's a chick magnet" in the same post, without irony at least.
yeah sexualchocolate - it has a touchsensitive fretboard which shows you which frets your hands are on in a tiny, magical blue bubble LOL
I'd buy the adapter and game. I need fun guitar practice. Games doing that makes me excited... really excited.
@leviticuskitty
Its made by squier. squier is owned by fender, they make the more affordable versions of fender guitars (not necessarily bad, but lower build quality for sure).
Its made by squier. squier is owned by fender, they make the more affordable versions of fender guitars (not necessarily bad, but lower build quality for sure).
Right kingbui, like Epiphone is to Gibson. All I meant was it sounded as though they thought it wasn't even a proper guitar, the way the 'mustang' pro controller (which is just a plastic toy) is... that mustang 'replica' can only be called a controller, where as this fender squire is actually an actual guitar. :)
@various people: Squier is not really comparable to Epiphone other than they're each owned by bigger, more famous companies. In practice, Epiphone is more on par with the Made In Mexico Fenders overall, with just a couple of truly trash, plywood cack models. Squier, on the other hand, is nothing but trash, plywood cack "guitars".
And that RB3 controller is not a "real guitar". It's a very low quality MIDI controller with strings slapped on it. It's damn near unplayable and and an affront to the fingers. It's even an insult to Squier, which is almost an achievement in itself.
And that RB3 controller is not a "real guitar". It's a very low quality MIDI controller with strings slapped on it. It's damn near unplayable and and an affront to the fingers. It's even an insult to Squier, which is almost an achievement in itself.
If any guitar can be used, I suppose I have to support something that is basic video tabulature. Price would soon become an issue. As anyone has the right to write down what the tabulature chords are for any song. Chords don't require a license.
Free programs already exist. "A plethora."
http://guitar.about.com/od/tablaturesoftware/Tablature_Software.htm
Although I've gone through multiple necks and pickups, I still play the 100 dollar guitar I was bought 30 years ago. That is an advantage to bolt on necks. So I'm not inclined to pick on student grade instruments. Action, not price or brand determines value for me.
Free programs already exist. "A plethora."
http://guitar.about.com/od/tablaturesoftware/Tablature_Software.htm
Although I've gone through multiple necks and pickups, I still play the 100 dollar guitar I was bought 30 years ago. That is an advantage to bolt on necks. So I'm not inclined to pick on student grade instruments. Action, not price or brand determines value for me.
Ace Flibble - you are thinking of the mustang. It's not sounding like you own the Squire Strat, so why are you so qualified to discuss it and tell people who own it what it is like?
Right, I agree with readbigwordsisgood (nice handle lol) because I knew I wasn't getting a freaking fancy ass guitar when I bought the Squire, but I also knew I was getting the most affordable MIDI guitar by an order of hundreds of dollars, and having a nice rack of synths and a fancy workstation I DID pay thousands for, I wouldn't mind adding such a guitar to my arsenal without going all out on the Roland extra pickup, processor, etc method.
Why make fun of people for their stuff? That's just RUDE, yo! lol
Right, I agree with readbigwordsisgood (nice handle lol) because I knew I wasn't getting a freaking fancy ass guitar when I bought the Squire, but I also knew I was getting the most affordable MIDI guitar by an order of hundreds of dollars, and having a nice rack of synths and a fancy workstation I DID pay thousands for, I wouldn't mind adding such a guitar to my arsenal without going all out on the Roland extra pickup, processor, etc method.
Why make fun of people for their stuff? That's just RUDE, yo! lol
Nobody is more snobby than muscians who equate the price of their instrument with 'how seriously they take the "craft"' - I mean it's great to have high quality stuff, but it's really snobby and uncool to insult the things people buy because you feel so superior to it... it happens a lot with music, even more than in the console wars. "I wouldn't care to stock that TOY!" a music store owner would say about a brand of amp that wasn't for 'hugely important douchewads.' It's damn unattractive.
Nobody is more snobby than musicians who equate the price of their instrument with 'how seriously they take the "craft"' - I mean it's great to have high quality stuff, but it's really snobby and uncool to insult the things people buy because you feel so superior to it... it happens a lot with music, even more than in the console wars. "I wouldn't care to stock that TOY!" a music store owner would say about a brand of amp that wasn't for 'hugely important douchewads.' It's damn unattractive.
@LeviticusKitty I was quite clearly talking about the Squier controller. Hence why I said Squier. That was something of a clue right there. I've used it enough (including its prototype, woo) to know what it's like, and that is that it's next to worthless.
And I hate to break it to you, but there are other, cheaper midi controllers around. Look outside the major brands, you can find nearly anything made at an affordable price level. In fact you can add a midi system to almost any guitar yourself for about £60. In fact just two months ago I was fitting a combined piezo and midi system with an acoustic modeler into a Squier Vintage Modified Telecaster. £80 for the full system and a tenner for my time.
As for the rest, swing and a miss. I complain on a regular basis about how overpriced guitars are. The fact that even Squiers cost £200+ is a crime, let alone the price hike that Fender Deluxe, Classic and Classic Player lines have had recently. I've actually told Paul Reed Smith, to his face, that I think his company is the most obnoxious guitar manufacturer in the world when it comes to how they dictate their prices. Price isn't the problem with me. Nobody starts out with a £6,000 rig. Regardless, that doesn't mean anyone should accept some unplayable, plywood mess. That's my take on it. When you start playing guitar you've got to cope with basically learning a new language as well as cope with muscle memory training while also putting up with suddenly having these pieces of thin, cutting metal sticking into your fingers. That puts a helluva lot of people off by itself, let alone when you factor in the hallmarks of low-end guitars; crap sound, uneven frets, bad tuners, electronics that cut out, etc etc. For everyone one person I know that stuck with guitar I know four others that quit in the first two months because the experience of it and the "quality" of their guitar just pissed them off so much.
Hence why I don't get what market this game is going after, especially if they do a bundle with an Epi Special II or whatever. New players will be getting off on the wrong foot, if they even stick with it past the first week at all, and people who already play guitar don't need a game to help them play some Rolling Stones riffs.
And I hate to break it to you, but there are other, cheaper midi controllers around. Look outside the major brands, you can find nearly anything made at an affordable price level. In fact you can add a midi system to almost any guitar yourself for about £60. In fact just two months ago I was fitting a combined piezo and midi system with an acoustic modeler into a Squier Vintage Modified Telecaster. £80 for the full system and a tenner for my time.
As for the rest, swing and a miss. I complain on a regular basis about how overpriced guitars are. The fact that even Squiers cost £200+ is a crime, let alone the price hike that Fender Deluxe, Classic and Classic Player lines have had recently. I've actually told Paul Reed Smith, to his face, that I think his company is the most obnoxious guitar manufacturer in the world when it comes to how they dictate their prices. Price isn't the problem with me. Nobody starts out with a £6,000 rig. Regardless, that doesn't mean anyone should accept some unplayable, plywood mess. That's my take on it. When you start playing guitar you've got to cope with basically learning a new language as well as cope with muscle memory training while also putting up with suddenly having these pieces of thin, cutting metal sticking into your fingers. That puts a helluva lot of people off by itself, let alone when you factor in the hallmarks of low-end guitars; crap sound, uneven frets, bad tuners, electronics that cut out, etc etc. For everyone one person I know that stuck with guitar I know four others that quit in the first two months because the experience of it and the "quality" of their guitar just pissed them off so much.
Hence why I don't get what market this game is going after, especially if they do a bundle with an Epi Special II or whatever. New players will be getting off on the wrong foot, if they even stick with it past the first week at all, and people who already play guitar don't need a game to help them play some Rolling Stones riffs.
Now that would be a fun and interactive way to actually pick up a real guitar and star learning to play real songs.
Sold! I've been waiting for this for a long time....talk about "instant instant gratification" and I've been playing guitar for a long time now.
@LeviticusKitty
There's also the fact that the rock band 3 squier strat runs about $280-300. While an identical squier strat without the rock band inputs will run you around $100-140. So is it worth DOUBLE the price for rockband compatibility? Well that's up to the individual. I personally can't justify it, if only for the reason that it's no better than the squier strat I started learning guitar on, and that thing was a $99 POS.
There's also the fact that the rock band 3 squier strat runs about $280-300. While an identical squier strat without the rock band inputs will run you around $100-140. So is it worth DOUBLE the price for rockband compatibility? Well that's up to the individual. I personally can't justify it, if only for the reason that it's no better than the squier strat I started learning guitar on, and that thing was a $99 POS.
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