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Ubisoft 'pirates' own music for Assassin's Creed OST? photo

Ubisoft stands accused of torrenting its own music in order to compile an official soundtrack for the digital deluxe edition of Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood

According to Reddit, the soundtrack's MP3s were first encoded as FLAC files by someone who goes by the name of arsa13. This information points one to the logical conclusion that somebody at Ubisoft decided to torrent the soundtrack and convert the tunes to MP3s, rather than use the original source files. 

The best thing about all this is the fact that Ubisoft has come under fire for its oppressive DRM measures and has made no secret about its commitment to combating software piracy. That it has been caught potentially pirating its own material is quite, quite funny. 

Ubisoft is apparently looking into the matter. It's also building a big glass house to throw stones in. 

Ubisoft re-selling torrented music? [Eurogamer]








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Regnier's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2011 09:24
Regnier
Hahahahahahahah....(Gasps).hahahahahahahahaha.
Tristrix's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2011 09:27
Tristrix
...wait, what? I don't think I get it. How is it piracy if they own it in the first place?
Black Nexus's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2011 09:29
Black Nexus
Wut? But why when they made the music would they.

You know what I don't have a word in my vocabulary that can describe how stupid this is.
tuoman's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2011 09:30
tuoman
I saw the word piracy, wheres my boy Astalano
watermanx's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2011 09:34
watermanx
Bahahahahahahaha
MrFunsockz's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2011 09:35
MrFunsockz
And that's why I don't pirate anything. Professionally, it can make you look like the worst kind of hypocrite.
LittleBigD's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2011 09:36
LittleBigD
Ughhhh........
Enzi's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2011 09:38
Enzi
Too much fail to describe it with words.
personz's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2011 09:38
personz
basically the guy who was supposed to make the OST was 2 lazy to find the source files for the music so he torrented the files someone other person ripped from the game and converted them into mp3's
SakuRedux's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2011 09:40
SakuRedux
Uhm... Last I checked, Piracy is copying of Copyrighted material. If you own the copyright to said material, then it isn't really piracy.
It's stupid to be sure, considering they no doubt have access to the original recordings, but piracy it ain't.
JohnGrisham's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2011 09:40
JohnGrisham
LOL. Ubisuck
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2011 09:44
Sexualchocolate
Oh come on.

The act of "torrenting" is not the crime. It's simply a method of data transfer. The crime is downloading something you don't have the RIGHT to use.

"potentially pirating its own material" - is impossible. You can't "pirate" it if it's yours.

I'm fairly sure Ubisoft has the right to use the AssCream soundtrack.

I mean at work if our US office wanted to send us a massive file and we (for some reason) did it via a torrent, does that make my company pirates?

If I needed some files for work, which I could either spend time encoding and whatever, but someone else had already done that and put it on the web somewhere, I would just pull those too, rather than duplicate that work.

This is silly.

I'm all against intrusive DRM and whatnot, but this story is nothing more than funny, funny that the easiest way to get their own soundtrack was from the pirates.

Sure, it perhaps highlights that their DRM isn't working, but it sure as hell doesn't make them Pirates.
Monodi's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2011 09:44
Monodi
Welp.
Astalano's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2011 09:48
Astalano
DRM master of the industry uses pirated CD key crack for one of its games as well as pirating its own music.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYq2d7iKKhk
exp0d's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2011 09:49
exp0d
I would have done this too if it made my life easier.
MightyVince's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2011 09:49
MightyVince
What Sexualchocolate said. Couldn't have said it better.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2011 09:50
Jim Sterling
Irony ... it's lost on some people.
eskimo bob's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2011 09:51
eskimo bob
I know it's completely within their rights to do this, but fuck if this isn't funny.
UltorOscariot's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2011 09:53
UltorOscariot
This reminds me of the time when Capcom used an IGN image for the cover of the Wii verision of Okami, complete with IGN watermark. What happened to professionalism? These are lazy, bush league mistakes.
Tristrix's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2011 09:56
Tristrix
Nothing to do with irony being lost on anyone, Jimmy boy. You're just making a far bigger deal of this than it is. We weren't the ones that called downloading ones own property "piracy" when it very obviously isn't.

You're adorable though.
eduh's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2011 09:57
eduh
FLAC = lossless codec - same quality as source files.

what exactly is the meaning of being accused of torrenting? its just a way of sharing files as high speed.

in the end we may even find out that the arsa13 was a ubisoft employee that decided to share the OST with the fans before it was even decided that they would release it as part of a special edition and then just reused its prior work to make the mp3 files for the deluxe edition. or maybe not.
Gunner226's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2011 09:59
Gunner226
Wow..... Yup..
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2011 10:01
Sexualchocolate
Don't get me wrong, I come here for your amusing irony Jim. Never change.

Just took "ha ha ubisfot are pirates" from the piece.

When, thinking about it, it's actually quite clever, letting pirates do some of the work for you is almost like getting your own back, just a tiny little bit.
Humtuk's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2011 10:04
Humtuk
why do people take things so literally? of course they are not pirating their own stuff. but they are using a means that is a common means for pirates to use AND they are selling what IS a pirated copy of the OST. That is the funny part, and also the fact that they use so much DRM only to use pirates to get some of their own work done.
Tristrix's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2011 10:10
Tristrix
@Humtuk

Piracy is a very serious accusation considering the impact it has on the industry. One doesn't toss around that accusation lightly and not expect people to point out when it's obviously in error.

Also, one could look at it an entirely different way. As in, the funny part is that Ubi is taking the efforts of a lowlife thief who stole their property, and making lots of money off those efforts while he gets jack shit. THAT is the kind of irony that gives me a good chuckle.
DrunkPunk's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2011 10:11
DrunkPunk
@Jim

It's not irony if there's nothing going on.... People use torrents for legitimate purposes all the time. I know yer on this huge anti-piracy kick, which I suppose I could understand (despite you having no real stake in it), but when people torrent things they legitimately own, there is nothing underhanded going on, therefore there is no irony against a company that is so against piracy themselves.
RaginDude's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2011 10:12
RaginDude
P2P=Piracy
personz's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2011 10:15
personz
I agree with the fact that they are selling what somebody else already stole to be hilarious.

Also I think the idea that they wouldn't make the OST's out of the master sound files kinda terrible. Its bad enough we got itunes selling us crappy quality mp3's but now we got Ubisoft doing it as well.

Something tells me whoever did this "job" is just a lazy sob and is gonna get fired over this.
Jawmuncher's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2011 10:17
Jawmuncher
I mean it was theirs to begin with so, dont really see the big deal.
They just have lazy workers that's the real story.
meteorscrap's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2011 10:27
meteorscrap
Actually, if this arsa13 is not an Ubisoft employee and did the work of encoding the music from the source files, it kinda IS piracy. While the work they did is derivative (i.e. derived from copyrighted material), that doesn't change the fact that the FLAC files he or she encoded were their work, not Ubisoft's.

It's like a more subtle version of someone taking the source code for DooM, converting it to run on, say, Dreamcast, and then having ID turn around and release that version of DooM on Dreamcast without crediting the guy who did the conversion.

Just because they owned the original work does not give them free reign to do what they like with derivative work. They can shut it down or stop the distribution of the work, but they can't turn around and sell it.

It IS piracy, guys. A really obscure form of it, but under the law it technically applies.
Pvt Jackass's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2011 10:28
Pvt Jackass
@Tristrix: Not really piracy, but it's still fun to use that word on them.
I can't remember what game it was, but there was this one game where the developers actually used a cracked version that fixed the problem they had with the game instead of releasing their own.
SephirothX's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2011 10:41
SephirothX
@DrunkPunk

Instead of just using their own source files. Ubisoft downloaded a pirated file that was ripped from their own source files.

They didnt pirate the file. They downloaded a pirated file which they happen to own the copyright for. Just because they own the copyright for it doesnt mean it isnt a pirated file in the first place.
Saurabh Yadav's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2011 10:49
Saurabh Yadav
Even if its not piracy, it was insanely stupid to use torrented soundtrack rather than the original source files for encoding.
Agent9's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2011 11:22
Agent9
ha, this is really funny.
Maniac's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2011 11:25
Maniac
I don't get how people can claim that this isn't piracy. Anti-piracy arguments have gotten so hypocritical I feel like I'm a pirate just for not being against piracy.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2011 11:38
Xzyliac
At first this was just funny but a few of these comments are making it interesting.

And still funny.
ShenMoo's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2011 11:57
ShenMoo
anyone else remember when okami came out for wii. it had an ign watermark on the cover because someone at capcom had ripped it from their website....this reminds me of that, funny but not laugh out l....oh excuse me...not lol funny
manasteel88's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2011 12:01
manasteel88
I would say that this is a victory for torrent clients. So, I'm really curious if Ubisoft itself has a torrent system set up on their business computers or if this guy just took his work home and needed it for something quick.
PalinRMA's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2011 12:09
PalinRMA
If you buy a game and download the crack game so you do not have to deal with their DRM, they then see you as a pirate in their eyes. I can't stand Ubisoft; looks like they need to file a law suit against them self’s, a bunch of pirates.
How do I know they have right to that music, looks like an unofficial copy so it’s piracy.
I expect everyone at Ubisoft to email there resignation to me by the end of the day or I will have to file a lawsuit against them for braking their own polices again using torrent’s.
Waiting for the emails……
PalinRMA's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2011 12:10
PalinRMA
Still Waiting....
Roll Fizzlebeef's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2011 12:12
Roll Fizzlebeef
What constitutes pirating is a shaky issue to say the least.

The RIAA has previously claimed that ripping a CD you own to mp3 is illegal:

http://www.switched.com/2007/12/11/riaa-claims-ripping-cds-for-personal-use-is-illegal/
qlum's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2011 12:17
qlum
p2p is good and should be used for more things than piracy if you also use a server the extra sharing of other people make it a lot faster and less stressing for a server it can also be made an optional feature so people with a data limit don't have to use it.
BoomingEchoes's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2011 12:21
BoomingEchoes
Yeah I'm with everyone else who's unclear about how exactly this is piracy.
readbigwordsisgood's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2011 12:25
readbigwordsisgood
They seed it, ipso facto it is public domain, no one can "pirate"
it. That doesn't mean their lawyers won't argue it isn't public domain due to their copyright.
TrevHead's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2011 13:15
TrevHead
Although this isnt a case of piracy per-se I still think its funny that Ubi would torrent their own music rather then do it properly. Stinks of hypocracy and irony.
EdgyDude's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2011 13:22
EdgyDude
Reminds me when MS got caught using pirated software to make/edit sound files of Windows, companies are as full shit as pirates but worse due to the hypocrisy between their words and their actions.
kid23455's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2011 13:25
kid23455
Perfect! People who are extremely harsh on their consumers for stealing their games are really hipocrates, eliminating any smypathy anybody could ever have for them! YAY! Hate ubisoft!
brainderailment's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2011 13:58
brainderailment
I wonder if he kept his upload rate at 0. Doubt it though.
Baines's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2011 14:05
Baines
Rock Paper Shotgun has slightly better coverage, as they link back to a 2008 post for when it was found that the Direct2Drive version of Rainbow Six Vegas 2 used a cracking group's No-CD patch.
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/07/18/ubisoft-having-a-crack/

And the reply comments include that Ubisoft's solution to problematic Starforce in Silent Hunter III involves telling users to search the net for a Silent Hunter III No-DVD patch.
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/857101043/m/5941041408

For all their anti-piracy measures, Ubisoft certainly seems willing to take advantage of cracking groups when they need for their own reasons to circumvent their own security measures.
flea friend's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2011 15:18
flea friend
Reminds me of when that one DRM company was busted for making a no CD patch by stealing from pirates who had already made one.

I hope they at least offer arsa13 a job.
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