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Ubisoft: Not our fault that our sex game's rated for kids photo

Ubisoft has commented on the age-rating for its "sexy" party game We Dare, after a week of pretending not to notice how f*cked up it is. The response? Blame PEGI, the European ratings board!

"We Dare is intended for a mature audience and Ubisoft created its marketing campaign accordingly," asserts the publisher. "The PEGI ratings system is decided upon by a pan-European body and the rating for this game was bestowed by the independent PEGI board. Ubisoft has added a ‘Parental Discretion Advised’ sticker to the game in order to ensure that parents are informed of the potential sensitive nature of the game content."

PEGI stands by its rating, believing it to be the correct one: "PEGI does not take into account the context of a game when rating it, we only look at the contents of the game. [We Dare] has been rated as a PEGI 12 because it contains mild swearing, minor assault on a human-like character and words/activities that amount to obvious sexual innuendo, explicit sexual descriptions or images and sexual posturing."

Hilarious stuff, but it does somewhat expose the arbitrary nature of videogame ratings. One would think context is important, and when you remove that, you end up with 12-rated sex games. I mean, on its own, a dildo shaped like a bunny isn't going to be pornographic, but you wouldn't give it to your daughter on her tenth birthday. Unless you're Josef Fritzl. 

It's a strange business, and a perpetually imperfect one, but maybe software raters should do a little independent thinking when judging a title.

Ubisoft and PEGI Address We Dare Age Rating Concerns [Cubed3]








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Rammstein's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/03/2011 20:38
Rammstein
Well...yeah, they're right. It isn't their fault. As there is no 'fault' to be had. All of the advertising I have seen for this game shows mature adults(30+) playing the game, so Ubisoft is free of any non-existant 'fault'. Morality on the other hand...

BRB, Googling Josef Fritz!
Pvt Jackass's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/03/2011 20:42
Pvt Jackass
Eh, pretty much the same logic as games rated "E" instead of "10+" for its difficulty.
Kal Zakath's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/03/2011 20:43
Kal Zakath
I can see the headline now. "We Dare got my 13 yr old daughter pregnant".
Epic-Kx's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/03/2011 20:47
Epic-Kx
I SUMMON, SHITSTORM AGA!
Spaz's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/03/2011 21:01
Spaz
This in all honesty is what is wrong with the way video games are rated. A game like this should obviously be rated mature, but hey the publisher isn't to decide that. I guess shit like making one game that isn't that bad of a game rated Mature ****MW2 cough***** and a game built around well playing with each others virtual privates PEGI 12 (which is I guess the equal to our US Teen rating) going to on till some stupid ass shit happens and a whole shitstorm of lawsuits hits and chnages the way video games are rated.

IGN has already posted an article saying that video game raters don't even have to play the game to make judgment on what rating it gets.
Dhaos's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/03/2011 21:06
Dhaos
Words.... Don't have any
fulldamage's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/03/2011 21:08
fulldamage
I dunno. Seems mild to me. Does it really belong in the same category as GTA? You can find far more explicit stuff on regular television in Europe, right?
YoTanaka's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/03/2011 21:10
YoTanaka
That makes sense. That don't get to choose what rating after all.
TurboPhoenix's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/03/2011 21:24
TurboPhoenix
Obviously Ubi should have put more mature content in the game to get a higher rating. Hell, just have a random list of swear words (or a violent cutscene) hidden in the code, and tell the ratings board about it so they give the game a higher rating.
Fugly Duckling's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/03/2011 21:27
Fugly Duckling
That's just irresponsible and stupid. If this game ever happens to be in the vicinity of a sex crime, both Ubisoft and the PEGI ratings system are screwed.
Regnier's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/03/2011 21:51
Regnier
Lol sex game for kids
Nortonantivirus's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/03/2011 21:58
Nortonantivirus
People who are against the 12+ Rating are stupid. Look at TV for example Invader Zim and Ren and Stimpy were on Nick, but was their content for kids? Not really. Hell, even Power Puff Girls and Fairly Odd Parents have mature dialog in their episodes. It's been done in books, TV, and in video games for a long time.
CloneTrooper's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/03/2011 22:05
CloneTrooper
We Dare got rated PG in Australia, and Mortal Kombat got Refused Classification here in Australia.

So down here, its okay for kids to be exposed to mature Sexual Themes, but beating people to shit and preforming graphically violent finishing moves is bad.

Oh, unless you're a shooter...then you can have as many sexual references, drug use and violent finishing moves as you want and you'll probably get a rating without any troube (Bulletstorm and Duke Nukem were all passed MA15+ without trouble)

With the whole R18+ controversy raging down here, its amazing to see the complete lack of consistency coming from our Classification Board.

Oh and Ubisoft recommended that We Dare should get an M rating down here...but were ignored.
ricochetguro's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/03/2011 22:14
ricochetguro
If th
ricochetguro's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/03/2011 22:16
ricochetguro
If the game itself isn't graphic theres no reason for it to get higher then a 12 rating. If you watch the gameplay of the commercial, there doesn't seem to be anything that bad at all. The commercial chose to present it in a certain way thats not entirely accurate.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/03/2011 22:40
Chris Carter
@epic
I socket final attack revive, and counter cast PRaga!
chiptoon's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/03/2011 23:12
chiptoon
some of you are so uptight - its just a bit of friendly slap 'n tickle.
SirNinjaFace's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/04/2011 01:50
SirNinjaFace
TWO HAND SPANK!! ...thats what she said... But is this really some weird sex party game for kids? Or did someone just screw up the age classification? And thats about as far the controversy goes.
Syn's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/04/2011 03:03
Syn
I like ice cream, cherry pie
And lemonade with summer breeze...
onomatapedalo's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/04/2011 04:27
onomatapedalo
If a game seems to be of particular interest to the public, it often gets re-rated accordingly.

For example: Grand Theft Auto for the PS1 was originally rated 15+ (ELSPA rating, which was pre-PEGI and wasn't legally binding) in the UK, but when parents complained about it's content, they stepped in and re-rated it 18 (BBFC, which is legally binding).
plufim's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/04/2011 06:43
plufim
Ubisoft just need to quickly remedy the situation by throwing some tits in there.
Paroxysm's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/04/2011 06:52
Paroxysm
The same thing has happened in Aus and I see no problem with it. The rating bodies exist only to classify the material within the media not anything else.

If they worked as people in this chat seem to think... well wouldn't you be pissed off if you bought an X rated porno and it was just a comic about bunnies hugging? Content is what ratings judge, not intent, subtext or other contexts.
SKSith's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/04/2011 07:05
SKSith
If the company wants a higher rating, PEGI should give it to them. They know their own game.

@plufim Yes, tits or controversy
Rappy28's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/04/2011 07:36
Rappy28
Kind of reminds me of the fact that the Watchmen movie was rated "12+" in France.
Airos's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/04/2011 07:39
Airos
"It's a strange business, and a perpetually imperfect one, but maybe software raters should do a little independent thinking when judging a title."

Maybe parents should do a little independent thinking?

I'm sorry, but I feel enough has been done. They're marketing it to adults and have put a warning label on the package. It's ultimately the job of parents to monitor what games end up in the hands of their children. If there's a screw up it's on their heads, not the retailer, not the publisher and not the ratings board.

PEGI labels games much in the way that the ESRB does; by including a short description of what elements in the game contribute to the rating it's received, (i.e. language, suggestive themes and violence), although it looks, (based on a quick glance at their website), like they use icons instead of text descriptions. Any parent with two brain cells should be able to look at the box and decide if they want their kids to play it.

Besides, is it really any worse than the playboy and hustler magazines we had when we were 12?
TheLongWalk's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/04/2011 08:44
TheLongWalk
@Airos
Yes it is worse because you couldn't get the magazine preggers
MisterMollusk's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/04/2011 10:36
MisterMollusk
They should just slap a picture of giant dancing cock in during the loading screens then they'd be good to go.
Xenohenheim's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/04/2011 11:31
Xenohenheim
A french site (Jeuxvideo.com) reviewed this game and concluded 2 things :

- It's a piece of crap.
- It's a piece of crap ABSOLUTELY NOT erotic ! It's a false ad...
Neroisonfire's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/04/2011 11:36
Neroisonfire
Sex is not a horrible fact of nature.

Really. If it's rated for 12yos, how bad can it be?
Airos's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/04/2011 15:40
Airos
@TheLongWalk

Wait, you can get video games pregnant? Holy crap, somebody should alert the media!

In all seriousness, though, no. I'm sorry, but your argument is just hyperbole. If a 12 year old boy was going to be having sex with a 12 year old girl and getting her knocked up, then it was probably going to happen without the aid of this video game.

With the widespread availability of hardcore pornography on the web, some "softcore" party game isn't going to be the catalyst. I'd be willing to bet not too many kids are even going to want to buy this game unless they *already* know what sex is, and at that point we can't blame the game for teaching them about sex. They're already looking for a means to learn about and have sex, so it's not any worse than "spin the bottle" or "truth or dare"; it's just a method that requires a game console.
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