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The ESRB also rates games in Canada. If the US decides to scrap them, I wonder if the CTCS will rate games in Canada. That might be cool, the ratings would be lower on average.
Hah.
We have a Universal Rating System in Australia run by the Government.
Oh wait, I forgot....Video Games can only go up to MA15+...even though on the Website, the ratings R18+ and X are displayed. So even though the Classification Board uses the same ratings for Movies, DVDs etc...they cant use R18+ for games.
God I hate this country.
We have a Universal Rating System in Australia run by the Government.
Oh wait, I forgot....Video Games can only go up to MA15+...even though on the Website, the ratings R18+ and X are displayed. So even though the Classification Board uses the same ratings for Movies, DVDs etc...they cant use R18+ for games.
God I hate this country.
To quote Tenacious D:
"The government totally sucks, you motherfuckers, the government totally suuuuucks..."
I know how to fix it, let's put even more red tape out there and the path to true freedom will be so much easier to traverse. Why is our country so puritanically ass-backwards? Sex is a no-no, even though it creates life, but murder is okay as long as your legal guardian purchased your ticket to the show...the new revolution has got to begin sometime soon. I am waiting for a sign of change, but the only sign I get are U-Turns - we're wasting time doing donuts when we could be focused on the real shit going down here. Instead, we're told to watch the fucking birdie.
Motherfuckers.
"The government totally sucks, you motherfuckers, the government totally suuuuucks..."
I know how to fix it, let's put even more red tape out there and the path to true freedom will be so much easier to traverse. Why is our country so puritanically ass-backwards? Sex is a no-no, even though it creates life, but murder is okay as long as your legal guardian purchased your ticket to the show...the new revolution has got to begin sometime soon. I am waiting for a sign of change, but the only sign I get are U-Turns - we're wasting time doing donuts when we could be focused on the real shit going down here. Instead, we're told to watch the fucking birdie.
Motherfuckers.
i doubt this will happen. i will lmao if it does because movies and television tend to have an advantage in rating over games and a unified system will eliminate that advantage. the moment someone starts smoking, the ratings of both will probably jump to R or M regardless.
Bad idea. A government-run system will result in the loss of "mature" games no matter what and will restrict the enjoyment of people over 17 who fully understand the repercussions of doing those things in real life (huge chunk of the market). Democrats want to censor violence; republicans want to censor sex. Take your pick, because you will lose both ways.
I don't see why it's a bad idea.
everything is already rated. you just make everything similar so instead of R rated you'd have Mature or vice versa. big whoop.
everything is already rated. you just make everything similar so instead of R rated you'd have Mature or vice versa. big whoop.
If you give government control over how media is rated, it's an express route to censorship. They will decide what we can and cannot play, just like Australia.
A government run system would be the end of freedom for your U.S media.
I don't understand why they feel the need to do this. It sounds all rosy to them in concept but in practice, all it will do is confuse already stupid masses.
Like they say, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. Rating are the same, and viewers and buyers do not bother or care about them much. Take Southpark as an example, when it first hit the big time, the whiteskinned fearmongers were all over it, protect the children, the sky is falling shit. Now, no one cares, because ITS JUST TV, NOT REAL.
What they also don't understand or comprehend, is the vast majority of games and other media, released on a weekly basis. It would take a legion of people to vet and sift through, games, films, comic books etc, let alone get them right ratings. This is exactly why a voluntary system works so well, because any other way under such a huge workload would be unfair and basic insanity.
I don't understand why they feel the need to do this. It sounds all rosy to them in concept but in practice, all it will do is confuse already stupid masses.
Like they say, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. Rating are the same, and viewers and buyers do not bother or care about them much. Take Southpark as an example, when it first hit the big time, the whiteskinned fearmongers were all over it, protect the children, the sky is falling shit. Now, no one cares, because ITS JUST TV, NOT REAL.
What they also don't understand or comprehend, is the vast majority of games and other media, released on a weekly basis. It would take a legion of people to vet and sift through, games, films, comic books etc, let alone get them right ratings. This is exactly why a voluntary system works so well, because any other way under such a huge workload would be unfair and basic insanity.
I think this is a great idea and it will help alleviate some of the confusion for the non-gaming parents who don't understand the ratings system. Make it simple, take the film ratings (which everyone knows) and apply it to games. I bet when adults see a R-rated GTA game, a lot more will realize it's not for their 12 year old. This could help tone down the anti-violent game movement considerably.
But I guess it's easier just to shout some retarded sentiments about government bureaucracy and censorship.
But I guess it's easier just to shout some retarded sentiments about government bureaucracy and censorship.
It'd definitely help stupid parents who only understand the movie rating system, but it's still an absolutely horrible idea. Priorities.
this is another sicking step that has been taken this year towards the US government controlling all of our every day lives the best and only way to handle it is that the government has no say at all in response to what TheTaj stated yes both party's have there leanings but neither is correct we need to let the industries self regulate and parents need to to their fucking job and parent and not blame everyone else that little 8 year old timmy is up all night watching porn waking it and stabbing kittens during the day.
Bottom line the only people who have the right to say what is and is not acceptable for us to indulge in is ourselves and we make those choices on our own moral beliefs. Because the second the government gets involved everyone gets fucked just look at the bs the games industry in Germany and Australia have do deal with and there histories have been beacons of freedom and justice for all! (sarcasm)
Bottom line the only people who have the right to say what is and is not acceptable for us to indulge in is ourselves and we make those choices on our own moral beliefs. Because the second the government gets involved everyone gets fucked just look at the bs the games industry in Germany and Australia have do deal with and there histories have been beacons of freedom and justice for all! (sarcasm)
@OK Abacus: There is no confusion to be had. It says right on the label "17+" The problem is laziness and bad parenting and nothing the government does will change that, except adhere to said laziness.
To encourage censorship in any art form is wrong. A universal system to simply rate the content based on its original subject is good in theory, but most of the time systems like this are used as a deterrent to the artists, being told that their work is not viable based on a singular rating system.
This behavior also encourages classification and stereotyping of an artist and it's subject, and is a major factor in a form of art discrimination.
All in all, it discourages overall craftsmanship and quality of media, and its ability to evolve over time. I might have gone slightly overboard, but it will lead to no good.
This behavior also encourages classification and stereotyping of an artist and it's subject, and is a major factor in a form of art discrimination.
All in all, it discourages overall craftsmanship and quality of media, and its ability to evolve over time. I might have gone slightly overboard, but it will lead to no good.
Sorry guys I don't see the problem? If it stops games being treated as if they're worse than movies and television then I'm all for it.
@GoldenGamer
It's already been said if you read the comments, CENSORSHIP. You want to be in the same boat as Australia and Germany? Their ratings are government run and look at the shit they have to put up with.
It's already been said if you read the comments, CENSORSHIP. You want to be in the same boat as Australia and Germany? Their ratings are government run and look at the shit they have to put up with.
lmao, oh I love it when Gamers get political.
"More government bureaucracy! Government takeover! It'll ruin everything! They're going to kill my baby!"
It's not censorship. It's not control. It's a FUCKING RATING. Instead of M, you'll have an R. EVIL MUSLIM SOCIALISM! OOOOOH~! THE HORROR. Is it necessary? No. Is it a bad thing? No.
But the real kicker that no matter what rating you give GTA, be it an M or an R, pre-teens and toddlers will still crawl their way onto Xbox Live with the game after a trip to Gamestop with their mother.
So calm the hell down you bunch of bag breathing tin hatters.
"More government bureaucracy! Government takeover! It'll ruin everything! They're going to kill my baby!"
It's not censorship. It's not control. It's a FUCKING RATING. Instead of M, you'll have an R. EVIL MUSLIM SOCIALISM! OOOOOH~! THE HORROR. Is it necessary? No. Is it a bad thing? No.
But the real kicker that no matter what rating you give GTA, be it an M or an R, pre-teens and toddlers will still crawl their way onto Xbox Live with the game after a trip to Gamestop with their mother.
So calm the hell down you bunch of bag breathing tin hatters.
@Revuhlooshun: NC-17 movies get pigeon-holed and are doomed to financial failure because the government doesn't agree with the artist's message. That's both censorship and control. There are some exceptions like dirty comedies that just want more tits and sex, but there are many more very good films that got completely fucked because of the MPAA. But I agree with you on your second point. Awareness should be spread of the ESRB and their intentions.
And I'm not a "bag breathing tin hatter," thankyouverymuch. I am firmly against government control or censorship of art.
And I'm not a "bag breathing tin hatter," thankyouverymuch. I am firmly against government control or censorship of art.
I don't think people understand here that all the rating systems we have today are NOT, I repeat, NOT, federally enforced. The ESRB is not funded by your tax money(as far as I know) Wal-Mart, Gamestop, and other stores will not carry titles that are not rated by the ESRB or have an Ao rating. Same goes with movie theaters. AMC owns the majority of movie theaters in the US and refuses to show NC-17 movies because it's bad for business.That's their policy.
That's free market censorship and control, not the government right now. I like the idea of a universal system--maybe not through the government who has more important shit to worry about--but it may clear up confusion if done right.
That's free market censorship and control, not the government right now. I like the idea of a universal system--maybe not through the government who has more important shit to worry about--but it may clear up confusion if done right.
just one more godam thing the fuckin piss rich lying government wants control of. fuck you president obama and fuck your government. buncha godam lying pigs hungry for more power. i hate them all, republicans and democrats so don't think i'm biased for one party. i would spit on all their faces if i ever see any but they're all too comfortable sitting behind their gated communities to even want to meet a real american patriot.
Are today's parents really so hopelessly stupid and incapable that they can't figure out whether "M for Mature" or "TV-MA" is appropriate for their kids? You really need it spelled out for you with the movie scale? You know how old your brats are, this shit isn't written in Swahili. If something's rated for mature audiences only, it's probably not ok for Dylan and Colby.
Bored government officials is one thing, but anyone actually asking for this has no business breeding in the first place.
Bored government officials is one thing, but anyone actually asking for this has no business breeding in the first place.
@Im Ok, Revuhlooshun, GoldenGamer, and anly one else who thinks this is a good idea
1.It is the parents who must be the judge of what is appropriate for their children.
2.Name one thing that is government runs that is a good thing for the people at all levels.
3.the industry is self regulating
Ex: Every time i am in a gamestop i am asked for my id (this is where ever i choose to buy games) and there is always some parent saying it ok for timmy to get the rated m game. (guess what the parent chose to get the game any way even though the industry stated directly to them what content was in that game the parent chose not to pay attention)
4.True large game developers choose not to make AO games but that does not mean that they cannot be made, It is because a majority of the FREE MARKET again i must emphasize the FREE MARKET chooses not to purchase or redistribute them but a small subsection would and does choose to purchase and redistribute them.
5.even if the goverment does not take this power to misuse it that dosent mean it wont be misused. Some of the worst thing done in history have been done with good intentions.
6.If one person or entity has control over this or anything it is not good for the people as a whole.
7.The FREE MARKET is a better option because the game developers make the games that customers want to buy and play. Walmart stocks what customers want to purchase if you want to buy a game that is not sold at Walmart, Gamestop, ect. purchase the game where you can weather that be online or through a different retailer. As a result that retailer will grow into a larger purchasing force i the publishers eyes and they will make games in line with what people want to buy it is all self correcting.
8.Look at Australia for what government control of ratings looks like either you do not sell the product or you change the game to meet the ratings standards oh wait their is another name for that is Censorship
1.It is the parents who must be the judge of what is appropriate for their children.
2.Name one thing that is government runs that is a good thing for the people at all levels.
3.the industry is self regulating
Ex: Every time i am in a gamestop i am asked for my id (this is where ever i choose to buy games) and there is always some parent saying it ok for timmy to get the rated m game. (guess what the parent chose to get the game any way even though the industry stated directly to them what content was in that game the parent chose not to pay attention)
4.True large game developers choose not to make AO games but that does not mean that they cannot be made, It is because a majority of the FREE MARKET again i must emphasize the FREE MARKET chooses not to purchase or redistribute them but a small subsection would and does choose to purchase and redistribute them.
5.even if the goverment does not take this power to misuse it that dosent mean it wont be misused. Some of the worst thing done in history have been done with good intentions.
6.If one person or entity has control over this or anything it is not good for the people as a whole.
7.The FREE MARKET is a better option because the game developers make the games that customers want to buy and play. Walmart stocks what customers want to purchase if you want to buy a game that is not sold at Walmart, Gamestop, ect. purchase the game where you can weather that be online or through a different retailer. As a result that retailer will grow into a larger purchasing force i the publishers eyes and they will make games in line with what people want to buy it is all self correcting.
8.Look at Australia for what government control of ratings looks like either you do not sell the product or you change the game to meet the ratings standards oh wait their is another name for that is Censorship
The government is taking a tip from God him/herself. Instead of solving world peace and helping the starving third world nations...he/she was in a maichatroom last night deleting random posts...God could have solved all the worlds problems in a finger snap but God found his/her time to be better spent messing with me and a few other friends at 5am last night...
It would be unconstitutional, because those ratings could be used to bar freedom of speech. For instance AO rating some content on a gaming system. Controlling content in movies to allow it to be a PG-13.
The only reason it's allowed to control media on TV is because it is available to the public in general.
I'm guessing the reason movies have been left off is that's the system they would use for all the others.
Definitely unconstitutional.
The only reason it's allowed to control media on TV is because it is available to the public in general.
I'm guessing the reason movies have been left off is that's the system they would use for all the others.
Definitely unconstitutional.
If the new rating system was still enforced by the ESRB, then I would be perfectly okay with it. In the hands of politicians who want to appease their massive voter base of brain dead parents who allow their kids to buy Grand Theft Auto and then cry over all the violence in videogames and demand for these videogames to be banned...not so much...
If they recommend one universal rating system for all media types, then that would be insane. If they are thinking of making an official rating for each type, still not to sure I like that. While I think it could, eventually, help educate older adults what the ratings mean. I could see it as an official way to ban sales of certain ratings to specific ages which some states have tried to do.
While I certainly don't believe a child should be playing a grand theft auto or violent shooter, I do believe the parents shouldn't buy it for them and use those parental controls on the system like a responsible parent.
While I certainly don't believe a child should be playing a grand theft auto or violent shooter, I do believe the parents shouldn't buy it for them and use those parental controls on the system like a responsible parent.
I don't see it working too well. Even with it in big blazing lights RATED M FOR MATURE 17+ ONLY FUCKERS!!! wouldn't get their attention. I don't know any parents who take their kids to rated R films, but more than enough buy M-rated games for their 12-and-unders. Hum.
Billy: Mommy, I want a Playboy.
Mom: No.
Billy: Mommy, I want to see Inglourious Basterds.
Mom: No.
Billy: Mommy, I want Grand Theft Auto.
Mom: Here you go!
Billy: Mommy, I want a Playboy.
Mom: No.
Billy: Mommy, I want to see Inglourious Basterds.
Mom: No.
Billy: Mommy, I want Grand Theft Auto.
Mom: Here you go!
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