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she wasn't really a booth-babe... Okay she is a "babe" and she was at a booth thing, but booth-babes are girls that are dressed up as something vaguely relevant to the product, with the company's logo/game stretched across their boobs.
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Since she was representing the main character of a game and dressed up in an anatomically correct costume that was relevant to the character it seem weird that they wouldn't let her stay. I personally think the pink jumpsuit is a little alarming, but if the school girl uniform didn't have any problems the first day I don't see the problem with her wearing it the second day.
my guess is that it was Probably a group of people that complained about the first outfit and decided the cheerleader out fit was bad and complained about that too.
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Since she was representing the main character of a game and dressed up in an anatomically correct costume that was relevant to the character it seem weird that they wouldn't let her stay. I personally think the pink jumpsuit is a little alarming, but if the school girl uniform didn't have any problems the first day I don't see the problem with her wearing it the second day.
my guess is that it was Probably a group of people that complained about the first outfit and decided the cheerleader out fit was bad and complained about that too.
PA never ceases to amaze me. They should make a comic out of this bullshitry.
Sucks to hear it Jonathan/Jessica
-Game is about a rather revealing woman with a chainsaw
-Cosplay woman shows up as the protagonist character
-She gets removed
hahahahahahahahahaha, unbelievable. It's like I'm watching one of those shitty Family Guy episodes.
Sucks to hear it Jonathan/Jessica
-Game is about a rather revealing woman with a chainsaw
-Cosplay woman shows up as the protagonist character
-She gets removed
hahahahahahahahahaha, unbelievable. It's like I'm watching one of those shitty Family Guy episodes.
So pax went corporate? So Fuck them like Fuck ea?
Why can't things/people stay cool and not suck metaphorical balls?
Why can't things/people stay cool and not suck metaphorical balls?
You can never have too little Keith. As a dancer he's not bad. As a comedian he is the lowest of the low. That said I'm not one going to start banning people based on taste but additionally I can see how the stunt he was removed for could have crossed the boundaries ruled out in his agreement.
PAX has a no "booth babe" policy which they try to enforce.
As for Keith, I heard he was up to trolling and such, being the "johnny knoxville" of pax. He was warned and removed for it last year, only tobtame up his antics again this year.
As for Keith, I heard he was up to trolling and such, being the "johnny knoxville" of pax. He was warned and removed for it last year, only tobtame up his antics again this year.
I knew about the no booth babes policy but I had thought there was an exception for legitimate cosplay. Apparently not! They definitely could have handled that issue better since she was in the Juliet Starling outfit all day Friday with no problems and someone should have noticed and said something much earlier if it was a problem.
I can't really get outraged over the guy getting kicked out for taking off his pants during a panel. I'm sure it was entertaining, but I'm equally sure he did it knowing he was going to get kicked out. No sympathy on that one.
I can't really get outraged over the guy getting kicked out for taking off his pants during a panel. I'm sure it was entertaining, but I'm equally sure he did it knowing he was going to get kicked out. No sympathy on that one.
To be fair, I think it's perfectly justifiable to kick out Nigri, as it's really shameless and pathetic (arguably inappropriate, if there should be any younger attendees around) to have her walking around like that. That said, the blame there really lies with the publisher/PR and they should have cleared it with the event organisers first.
Also I will add that though I've been really looking forward to Lollipop Chainsaw and all this cheese is amusing in the context of the game, getting her to wander around conventions and PR events with her tits hanging out is really, really pathetic and if anything quite insulting. When it was just the game you could pass it off as being a bit of a joke, but when they're paying someone to actually wop 'em out for the lads for PR, that's treading on the joke and insulting the players, and frankly the IP and the developers too. It's a good show of how little faith a publisher has in a title if they resorting to a walking billboard with tits to promote the game.
As for the dude, that one's unfair, but it wasn't his panel so I understand why he'd be thrown out. Barred for life? Too harsh, but thrown out of this particular PAX? Understandable.
Also I will add that though I've been really looking forward to Lollipop Chainsaw and all this cheese is amusing in the context of the game, getting her to wander around conventions and PR events with her tits hanging out is really, really pathetic and if anything quite insulting. When it was just the game you could pass it off as being a bit of a joke, but when they're paying someone to actually wop 'em out for the lads for PR, that's treading on the joke and insulting the players, and frankly the IP and the developers too. It's a good show of how little faith a publisher has in a title if they resorting to a walking billboard with tits to promote the game.
As for the dude, that one's unfair, but it wasn't his panel so I understand why he'd be thrown out. Barred for life? Too harsh, but thrown out of this particular PAX? Understandable.
At first I actually though it was a joke, you know...like a sketch or something. But damn...that's pretty lame that they did all that, America is so afraid of the nudes.
Hmm...this is a sticky wicket. On one hand, most of PAX will find revealing outfits and people taking off their pants fun/funny.
On the other, I haven't been to PAX before (sadface!), so I don't know if there are any children/minors allowed in. If that dude had randomly taken his pants off and there were kids around, I'm surprised he's not in jail.
On the other, I haven't been to PAX before (sadface!), so I don't know if there are any children/minors allowed in. If that dude had randomly taken his pants off and there were kids around, I'm surprised he's not in jail.
This is incredibly lame. Let Keith do his thing, he's way more interesting than anything Rooster Teeth could have done anyway.
Isn't kicking Jessica out akin to kicking out a hypothetical Yvonne Strahovsky cosplaying (or really just playing) Miranda? There is a difference between a hired cosplayer and booth babes, context being one, numbers being another. Also notoriety.
If these are family events then I guess I can see why they got thrown out, but I don't agree with it at all. I think both these people represent aspects of what's cool about gaming: weird outsider comedy and glamorous cosplaying.
And when it comes to Jessica Nigri I can't help but get the sense that in trying to become mature it's almost becoming more afraid of sexuality. It's like the worst part of Catholicism in that you're made to feel shame for what you find appealing or something. I dunno, just feels a bit wrong.
I mean video game culture needs to grow up when it comes to women but chasing away all the hot chicks unless they cover up is just as immature.
And when it comes to Jessica Nigri I can't help but get the sense that in trying to become mature it's almost becoming more afraid of sexuality. It's like the worst part of Catholicism in that you're made to feel shame for what you find appealing or something. I dunno, just feels a bit wrong.
I mean video game culture needs to grow up when it comes to women but chasing away all the hot chicks unless they cover up is just as immature.
Alright so apparently children are allowed at PAX. His penis was clearly showing. Now I don't have a problem with fun and games, but again, I'm surprised he's not in jail for indecent exposure.
This guy's really worth the trouble? He signed a waiver to be allowed into the convention, then violated the conditions of the waiver less than an hour later. Doesn't sound to me like he deserves much credit. And if PA doesn't want booth babes at their shindigs then that's their business.
What? If PAX was anything like the age-range of the Penny Arcade strip, it would be for 15 year-olds upwards. I'm sure Ms. Nigri has a right to aggrieved.
I wonder if the cartoonists will put up a strip about this...
I wonder if the cartoonists will put up a strip about this...
So PAX isn't just going corporate, they're going orthodox with their booth babe policy, which is to say it is okay if they look like Samson (or this guy)but its off limits if one looks too much like Delilah for their tastes regardless of gender.
Are breasts that look too much like the ones that they are likely fresh off of going to confuse the children yet the ones that are pretty much reserved for adults only get a free pass?
What are any of the Zangief, Haggar, Kratos or Yuri Lowell cosplayers bringing to PAX other than a slightly different shape of tit to justify their presence, anyway?
Are breasts that look too much like the ones that they are likely fresh off of going to confuse the children yet the ones that are pretty much reserved for adults only get a free pass?
What are any of the Zangief, Haggar, Kratos or Yuri Lowell cosplayers bringing to PAX other than a slightly different shape of tit to justify their presence, anyway?
I never liked Penny Arcade, the guys who made it or their expos. They all reek of the same bad, unoriginal and lazy quality.
First off, completely unsurprising people are starting to attempt to play the sexism card. So yeah, thanks for dragging the conversation down to that level. Awesome.
More to the point and less annoying are those attempting to draw a distinction between booth babes and hired cosplayers. I agree with you to a certain extent but you've gotta admit that line is thin and not very well defined, and I don't think PAX would have much luck attempting to allow the one and disallow the other. It's far too easy to intentionally blur that line even further in an attempt to get away with bullshit. Ya know?
I don't envy PAX the position they were in with this Jessica chick. Frankly I'm AceFlibble in that I find the notion that publishers think they need to parade tits in front of my fact to sell me a game insulting to me, the game, the developers of the game, and gaming as a whole. I love tits, but I don't need tits to sell me things I already enjoy, and good games shouldn't need them either.
That having been said, I'm certainly not offended by good cosplay, even when tits are involved, and what we're talking about here is... somewhere in between. I'd be so very fucking ok with this if this Jessica chick showed up of her own free will to PAX dressed this way with no compensation. Being hired to do it though? Much less ok with that.
More to the point and less annoying are those attempting to draw a distinction between booth babes and hired cosplayers. I agree with you to a certain extent but you've gotta admit that line is thin and not very well defined, and I don't think PAX would have much luck attempting to allow the one and disallow the other. It's far too easy to intentionally blur that line even further in an attempt to get away with bullshit. Ya know?
I don't envy PAX the position they were in with this Jessica chick. Frankly I'm AceFlibble in that I find the notion that publishers think they need to parade tits in front of my fact to sell me a game insulting to me, the game, the developers of the game, and gaming as a whole. I love tits, but I don't need tits to sell me things I already enjoy, and good games shouldn't need them either.
That having been said, I'm certainly not offended by good cosplay, even when tits are involved, and what we're talking about here is... somewhere in between. I'd be so very fucking ok with this if this Jessica chick showed up of her own free will to PAX dressed this way with no compensation. Being hired to do it though? Much less ok with that.
Yea, I'm not really sympathetic to either case. If Robert Khoo gave him specific guidelines to follow, then it's entirely Keith's fault.
As for Jessica, PAX has always had a "no booth babe" policy. Yes, she's cosplaying a character, but it's clearly a matter of using boobs to get attention. And I love boobs. Would I tap that? Yes (hourly), but it kinda ruins the integrity and atmosphere of the convention. PAX has never pandered to its audience with skimpy women.
As for Jessica, PAX has always had a "no booth babe" policy. Yes, she's cosplaying a character, but it's clearly a matter of using boobs to get attention. And I love boobs. Would I tap that? Yes (hourly), but it kinda ruins the integrity and atmosphere of the convention. PAX has never pandered to its audience with skimpy women.
People are forgetting that Jessica Nigri is a paid model and representative of Warner Bros who pay big bucks to PAX to appear at the show. I really want to hear a statement from Warner Bros about this because they probably won't take it lightly and may refuse to appear at future shows. This could very well spark a fuse amongst the other developers who could pull out in protest. A video game convention isn't a game convention without, you know, VIDEO GAMES. The organizers agreed to the models when the companies signed on. You can't change your rules in the middle of the show.
Keith was shown the rules and delibarately broke them, so he's justifiably out. Jessica on the other hand should have still been allowed to do the cosplay. If booth babes aren't allowed, who said you couldn't just be a cosplayer for the games?
Let us all show our support by dancing around in our underwear in public while screaming 'KEITH 2012'!
Hang on, Jessica Nigri is there as the game's protagonist, who happens to be a sexy teenager. So if they had a booth with Halo 4 Master Chief should be thrown out too, because otherwise they're saying you are not allowed a game with a sexy protagonist, and it's unfair that other booths are allowed to have characters from their universe around it to attract attention but not Lollipop Chainsaw. It's not as if Jessica Nigri was cynically hired either, she won a contest she entered.
I call bullshit.
I call bullshit.
Jessica is fine woman and we need more like her, i think she was kicked out on day 2 because all the religious, feminist, "think about the children" and McDonald's Americans (read fat and ugly asswipes) sheeple complaint about her, so when was kicked out.
Now about Keith Apicary, what they did was fine and good.
He is an asshole that using otehr people for his stupid jokes, only idiots with no sense of humor laugh from his jokes.
I hate him.
What I hate more is the fact that he uses his sickness to do everything he wants because in politically correct America you cant yell at "sick people" and usually you have to smile to them and accept everything they do.
Now about Keith Apicary, what they did was fine and good.
He is an asshole that using otehr people for his stupid jokes, only idiots with no sense of humor laugh from his jokes.
I hate him.
What I hate more is the fact that he uses his sickness to do everything he wants because in politically correct America you cant yell at "sick people" and usually you have to smile to them and accept everything they do.
@Tristrix
Isn't that a little inconsistent?
Cosplayers being able to prance around and show of their goods, but as soon as someone is paid for it, that's a no-no? I think PAX should either allow cosplayers, both hired and not hired, or not allow cosplayers at all.
As for the hired ones like Jessica, as long as their outfit is highly relevant to the game they represent (i.e. dressing as a main character), I see no problem showing some cleavage and the like. To me the real problem only occurs when an outfit is just some random, revealing clothes with a game logo and the person wearing them clearly doesn't know anything about the product she or he is hired to front. That's just embarrassing and degrading for all parties involved.
Isn't that a little inconsistent?
Cosplayers being able to prance around and show of their goods, but as soon as someone is paid for it, that's a no-no? I think PAX should either allow cosplayers, both hired and not hired, or not allow cosplayers at all.
As for the hired ones like Jessica, as long as their outfit is highly relevant to the game they represent (i.e. dressing as a main character), I see no problem showing some cleavage and the like. To me the real problem only occurs when an outfit is just some random, revealing clothes with a game logo and the person wearing them clearly doesn't know anything about the product she or he is hired to front. That's just embarrassing and degrading for all parties involved.
How is it inconsistent? There's a clearly demarcated difference between someone doing something of their own free will as a hobby and someone being paid by a corporate sponsor to represent their product. I don't see how that's confusing at all. There's no dilemma here, false or otherwise.
And isn't that the only two differences? Payment?
There are still going to be lots of people with revealing outfits there, so the end result is the mostly the same. I don't see a problem with someone being payed for that and talking about a product, but I'm curious as to what you have against it.
There are still going to be lots of people with revealing outfits there, so the end result is the mostly the same. I don't see a problem with someone being payed for that and talking about a product, but I'm curious as to what you have against it.
Didn't PAX also say MC Chris couldn't go back ever for some dumb reason? they sure love these lifetime bans.
@arkane9
"I'm dressed up as the girl from Lollipop Chainsaw because I love cosplaying."
vs
"I was paid to dress up like the girl from Lollipop Chainsaw. I have huge tits, buy this game."
"I'm dressed up as the girl from Lollipop Chainsaw because I love cosplaying."
vs
"I was paid to dress up like the girl from Lollipop Chainsaw. I have huge tits, buy this game."
If she was allowed on one day to wear the outfit, then it's bs that she was asked to leave later. Still, PAX has a no boothbabe rule, so it makes sense.
As for Keith, he normally gets kicked out of places. It wouldn't be a worthwhile convention if he were allowed to stay, haha. That man is genius.
As for Keith, he normally gets kicked out of places. It wouldn't be a worthwhile convention if he were allowed to stay, haha. That man is genius.
@Abnegation
Breast size and willingness to show cleavage doesn't necessarily change whether you're paid or not. And even if you're cosplaying for the fun of it you are still giving something free promotion. I believe the end result is mostly the same.
Breast size and willingness to show cleavage doesn't necessarily change whether you're paid or not. And even if you're cosplaying for the fun of it you are still giving something free promotion. I believe the end result is mostly the same.
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