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Twisted Metal dev hit with layoffs, David Jaffe leaving photo

[Update: Jaffe has responded to today's news, confirming that layoffs were had, but addressing talk of casual development by saying, "I have zero plans to make games like FARMVILLE and ANGRY BIRDS. I never said what I was doing post TM ...  I will be opening a game studio here in San Diego because I really miss internal game development. Happy to share more details later."]

Eat Sleep Play is the latest studio to be hit by the, "develop big game, kill off a bunch of jobs" phenomenon. The Twisted Metal developer has lost eight employees to continue with a staff of 26, and it would appear that even the infamous David Jaffe is leaving. 

The studio will be sticking to iPad and iPhone games in the future, with co-founder Scott Campbell calling the move "pretty exciting" and looking forward to "reaching a lot more people." Even so, it looks like a step down for a team that's got a major PS3 exclusive on the horizon. 

As for Jaffe? There's talk of him going into the casual games market, but he has said on Twitter that such rumors are "highly exaggerated" and they won't be casual games "as you know them." He has, so far, said nothing else beyond that. 

Whatever happens, there's something fundamentally wrong with this industry where things like this happen so regularly.








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Zaheer's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/07/2012 08:03
Zaheer
Jesus cocks. Outrageous.
timtheterrible's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/07/2012 08:05
timtheterrible


I don't care if it's an old meme D':
Stevil's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/07/2012 08:05
Stevil
Do we know if the staff were temps, contracted for this game, or full-timers?

To lay some staff off after a huge title is increasingly common, and whilst it might sound fair, if there's nothing for the extra workforce to do, there's no point in having them around.

Though, maybe, I'm saying that because I know people in animation, who are contracted for large projects and are laid off in much the same way. Frustrating, but sensible finacial practice.
MrNorth's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/07/2012 08:06
MrNorth
what did Jaffe do wrong ?!
Stevil's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/07/2012 08:08
Stevil
*it might sound unfair
*financial

Clearly, I haven't had my coffee. HERP DERP.
OrangeArmy's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/07/2012 08:08
OrangeArmy
Man that's a pity, I hate news like these, people losing their jobs like that is all types of bullshit.

Also, as much as I dislike Jaffe, I begrudgingly admit that he makes kickass "core" games and seeing him go into the casual market seems like kind of a waste.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/07/2012 08:12
Jim Sterling
Stevil: It would appear that this was an actual downsize so I don't think they are temps. It was a small studio to begin with.
tuoman's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/07/2012 08:13
tuoman
I'm usually ambivalent towards casual and iOS games, but seeing existing companies making a move to this market still kind of stings.
AdamskiOwenov's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/07/2012 08:15
AdamskiOwenov
Being a fan of 'Calling All Cars', it's a shame and terrible blow to the industry that such talented and hardworking people are being bombarded with bad news. Wishing David Jaffe all the best, whatever he's doing next.
SirNinjaFace's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/07/2012 08:18
SirNinjaFace
Sweet Jesus, NO! Sad, but i'm sure Jaffe will find a way to give us more crazy ass clowns, casual or not.
Arttemis's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/07/2012 08:18
Arttemis
Employers used to give incentives to employees to keep them, and even train them for improvement, making them assets to companies for furore work.

Now people of this generation think it's fine practice to create a disposable work force.
DrRockso87's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/07/2012 08:20
DrRockso87
I wouldn't mind if he goes back to Santa Monica Studio then. God of War IV needs his direction.
Brandon Jackson's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/07/2012 08:20
Brandon Jackson
Wow wonder what this means for their support of Twisted Metal when it comes out...just going to be a release and forget about it title for the developer?

I'm assuming Jaffe left on his own after all these layoffs etc, they said they were going to Mobile games (which are low cost to make and rake in a bundle because you can do so many of them in no time) and he didn't want in part in that. Even if Jaffe just sticks to making PSN type games, that should be fine since he'll probably still go big with those. Some PSN games have been incredible so I don't doubt he'll be doing some great work on that end.
Bioautographical's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/07/2012 08:21
Bioautographical
Things that are "sensible financial practice" are often sorely lacking in humanity. Strictly speaking, it'd be sensible financial practice for me to kick my 8 year-old out of the house and tell him to get a job and earn his room and board. Aside from being illegal, the idea is absurd.

Not saying there was no reason for them to do it or that their hand wasn't forced from a business angle; just, if we're going to rush to inject understanding of the situation when layoffs happen, why not let the ones who were fired be the ones who benefit from it, instead of the studio? They're going to be just fine. The guys who were fired get to go look for jobs with no certainty they'll find one, especially not in a still-depressed economy.

Just sayin'.
RyguyBeta's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/07/2012 08:24
RyguyBeta
Wow, that sucks! And the game hasn't been released yet! Given that the studio was already small to begin with, they did apparently get help from Santa Monica since that's clearly displayed alongside Eat Sleep Play's logo when you boot up the demo. I always see some sort of trend with any of the original developers, they develop one or two Twisted Metal games, then they break up to form a different studio, then that studio makes another one or two Twisted Metal, and we get to this point. Now who knows.
Zerix's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/07/2012 08:24
Zerix
Could this be at all related to Jaffes very open dislike for an online pass, and Sonys very open lack of fucks being given on the subject?
UltorOscariot's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/07/2012 08:27
UltorOscariot
It's fascinating to see the vast differences in company culture. Nintendo posted their first loss a few weeks ago, and I haven't heard of lay offs yet. I've never heard of Valve engaging in wholesale layoffs. Bethesda either. It's almost like companies that make great games invest in people, and those that make lesser games do not. Hm
SephirothX's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/07/2012 08:27
SephirothX
Hey Jim, not trying to call you out saying you're wrong or anything but I'm just playing devils advocate by asking this...

Is it possible that these layoffs might just be temp workers who were hired on for one or two projects and then let go?
jackdan594's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/07/2012 08:28
jackdan594
Well, the Twisted Metal series is pretty much fucked then
NickCull's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/07/2012 08:32
NickCull
Wow.
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/07/2012 08:34
Sexualchocolate
Shame. Demo is really fucking good.

Intrigued to see what Jaffe does next and I'm sure that despite the "recession" the fact that videogames is such a rapidly expanding industry right should mean anyone who can put EatSleepPlay and Twisted Metal on their CV (resume) shouldn't have too many problems grabbing another gig.
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/07/2012 08:35
Sexualchocolate
Also, what does this mean for post release support for Twisted Metal?

As we all know games tend to take a lot of "finishing" over the first year of release. Not to mention future DLC!
joeypina's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/07/2012 08:38
joeypina
Can't wait for this fucking "casual gaming" fad to be over. The guy who gave us God of Fucking War is moving on to "casual games not as we've known"... Oh, Fuck's sake...
wittynickname's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/07/2012 08:44
wittynickname
To be fair, Bioautographical, your son IS a shiftless layabout who hasn't bothered to work a day in his life. 'Bout time he started pounding the pavement, I'd say.
Mrdraven's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/07/2012 08:45
Mrdraven
Aw Christ, I'm beginning to get really amazed that Twisted Metal ever actually got made now. These recent announcements from the online pass becoming official to now this, my expectations for this game (despite my demo experience) has dropped a ridiculous amount.

Mr Jaffe and devs that lost their jobs, I truly am sorry for your likely negative experiences throughout this whole situation. I hope you continue to make great games that keep my fingers mashing buttons.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/07/2012 08:45
Chris Carter
Jaffe said if the game succeeds they will do DLC. But with Jaffe gone, I'm kind of worried about the quality of said DLC and potential future installments.

We all saw what happened with a Jaffe-less Twisted Metal 3 and 4. Well, my wife and I were super excited for the return of one of our favorite franchises of all time, but maybe we got *too* excited :-(
Bioautographical's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/07/2012 08:46
Bioautographical
@wittynickname - We haven't even gotten into all the drugs he smokes. He smokes so many drugs. :(
Skullo Dream's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/07/2012 08:51
Skullo Dream
...What? For all I know Twisted Metal could have nothing to do with this, but the demo got me genuinely excited for the game. It seems so well put together and fun that I can't imagine it not selling or that the people behind it would want to shift their focus to iOS games. Pretty disappointing.
Stevil's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/07/2012 08:53
Stevil
@Jim: Fair enough. Tis' a shit business for this generation.
youngskeletor's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/07/2012 08:55
youngskeletor
The demo is so fucking awesome. Its twisted Metal 100%. The demo map is HUGE. Gah. I'm going to vote with my money and buy it anyhow. I LOVE TWISTED METAL. The first time I used custom soundtrack to play deathmatch while listening to goatwhore I was in love.
Gorescream's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/07/2012 08:56
Gorescream
So long he's working on God of War 4 I'm fine with it.
TheChosen's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/07/2012 09:04
TheChosen
Whats so exciting about making games for Iphone?
The Silent Protagonist's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/07/2012 09:05
The Silent Protagonist
I like how, without knowing the full circumstances of his departure from Sony, people are still eager to call Jaffe a sell-out. Yet nobody cast those harsh accusations when Team Ico's top two guys left and implied a similar destination.

Maybe they saw something happening within Sony that Jaffe came to see as well.
killias2's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/07/2012 09:12
killias2
I'll admit, I'm quite surprised. After all the hype and such, I really expected them to at least -try- to refranchise the series.
Mr Andy Dixon's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/07/2012 09:29
Mr Andy Dixon
Damn. This seems to be happening too much lately.
CelicaCrazed's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/07/2012 09:35
CelicaCrazed
Like SexyChoco, I too wonder what will happen with post-release support.

Kind of sad this has happened to part of the team responsible for Warhawk. Could they not have put them to work on a Vita version or something? Spend some money Sony, your studios need stimulating!!
Nick Jones's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/07/2012 09:42
Nick Jones
*Shits pants.*

What the fuck? Why is David Jaffe leaving? I thought he enjoyed working with Sony and Eat Sleep Play.

What does this mean for the game ready for release next week?
Stop Spoilers's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/07/2012 09:47
Stop Spoilers
@The Silent Protagonist ESP are not part of Sony.
salamagogo's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/07/2012 09:59
salamagogo
Could-jaffe-maybe-know-this-was-going-to-happen-so-he-delayed-the-release-to-iron-out-as-manbugs-as-possible-since-he-wouldnt-be-around-to-do-it-post-release?...pure-speculation,just-crossed-my-mindy-
rossandgarfunkel's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/07/2012 09:59
rossandgarfunkel
Hey Jim, you should write more long, grand-scale diatribes in print form. I can't watch your visual and aural escapades here at work, so I end up reading other writer's articles in your voice to satisfy my hunger for your delightful rants and ravings. It would be great to read more Jim Sterling Originals while I'm stuck at work.
salamagogo's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/07/2012 10:00
salamagogo
*many-bugs
BalloonFighter's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/07/2012 10:05
BalloonFighter
I'm telling you Sony is pissing these developers off or they are privy to Sonys future.
Viewtiful Devil's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/07/2012 10:07
Viewtiful Devil
It's kinda sad seeing a legitimate gaming studio moving on to making games that someone with basic IOS tools could make on their own.
ElektroDragon's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/07/2012 10:37
ElektroDragon
It is because the new Twisted Metal is an AMAZING PIECE OF CRAP. I could not believe they couldn't do any better.
Netrat33's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/07/2012 10:42
Netrat33
Seems like a bad business model to switch from known AAA title type of company to switch to mobile. Think about it: most people don't buy apps. Playing a couple of stages here and there is good enough and then they move to next game. Angry Birds, while huge in name and downloads, most people are getting it for free. competition is massive when any small developer can get into. We're considering getting into mobile development, but with research, seems like the risk is great. *shrug* but we're so new to all of this so could be wrong.
Stop Spoilers's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/07/2012 10:57
Stop Spoilers
@EletoDragon: wat the game is amazing. And it you are talking about the matchmaking problems they are resolved in the retail version. The game is great. And jim could you post the story about TM custom skins you can upload to the TM site and use them in the game?

@balloonFighter: Once again ESP is not part of sony go read Jaffe's twitter.
mix's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/07/2012 11:01
mix
Sticking to iPad and iPhone games is "pretty exciting"? Fuck you money grabbers. We want to work half the time, with half the quality for potential sales aimed towards a 30 times as large market.....they want a chance for "easy" money.
BalloonFighter's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/07/2012 11:16
BalloonFighter
@ Stop Spoilers
Yah but Jaffe was one of Sonys golden boys.
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