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Torchlight 2 exceeds XBLA memory limit photo

Runic Games' 2009 action RPG Torchlight was a bit of a success on the PC. It's XBLA release was equally successful and many had assumed that the upcoming sequel would also find it's way to consoles. However, it seems that Torchlight 2 exceeds XBLA's memory limit and, at the moment, Runic's not sure how they're going to handle it.

CEO Max Schaefer says that, since they're such a small studio, "[They're] very consciously trying to focus on one thing at a time and at the moment it's getting Torchlight 2 out for the PC."

An XBLA release of the title would require significant alterations, but that doesn't mean it won't happen. It's worth noting that they would "absolutely consider" a full retail release so, at this point, it's all up in the air. All we know is that they want to bring it to consoles, regardless of the form it takes.

Schaefer delves deeper into some other details in his interview with Eurogamer including co-op options, classes, modding tools, pets, and the sheer size of the sequel. Look for Torchlight 2 later this year.

Torchlight 2 is too big for XBLA [Eurogamer]








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Nerdy Suit's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/04/2011 23:33
Nerdy Suit
I hope for their sake, they can figure something out to put it on Xbox Live.

As far as I go, I don't care either because I LOVED Torchlight on my PC, and I cannot wait to buy the sequel.

DAY ONE PURCHASE.
Vitruvius Otoko's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/04/2011 23:38
Vitruvius Otoko
Ever since the Diablo 3's auction house, online only DRM and chance of mods being prohibited fiasco, it's nice seeing Torchlight taking the good (or rather, natural) steps in putting fans first before business.

Day one purchase for me also.
Namodacranks's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/04/2011 23:41
Namodacranks
I thought it was RAM limit...
PhilK3nS3bb3n's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/04/2011 23:42
PhilK3nS3bb3n
Can't wait. I'll double dip again with a huge grin on my face. Day 1 for both.
M47R1X's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/04/2011 23:56
M47R1X
This is why Torchlight should be on disc, and Diablo III should be on crap.
13thDragon's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/04/2011 23:58
13thDragon
This seems weird 'cause isn't Torchlight on XBLA only like 100mb or something?
Electrium's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/04/2011 23:59
Electrium
I wasn't overly impressed with the original but hell, with the way Diablo 3 news has been going lately I'm all about Torchlight 2. Disc release is fine with me.
CaptainHowdy's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2011 00:07
CaptainHowdy
I agree with everyone on here. Since Diablo III has doing it's fans wrong. Torchlight 2 will be getting my money day one for sure, I can't wait to see what they give you for pre ordering.
Butternine's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2011 00:11
Butternine
This is a problem for many developers and will be dealt with in the same way--by reducing and/or optimizing. :)

Regardless...SO excited for Torchlight!
SunRa73's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2011 00:11
SunRa73
BUT WILL IT WORK WITH KINECT?
Mr Andy Dixon's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2011 00:13
Mr Andy Dixon
^Hahahahaha!
SunDevil56's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2011 00:13
SunDevil56
I've put in over 200 hours on Torchlight 1 on the PC, and played thru it on XBLA as well. If it had to be a retail release I'd easily pay $40-$50 for it on the 360. Plus they could add more achievements, not possibly have to make any cuts, and it would be available to non-online 360 owners. Torchlight on Xbox showed that this type of game could definitely be done successfully on a console (see Blizzard re:Diablo 3 ;) ) and a bigger, better Torchlight 2 would be a welcome addition to my 360 game collection.
Rammstein's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2011 00:29
Rammstein
InAfterDiablows3Rage

Also, retail = 1000Gamerscore, bring it on.
HarvMalbert's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2011 00:39
HarvMalbert
This is confusing. Either they're referring to the XBLA file size limit or they're referring to the amount of RAM in the Xbox. I've never heard of XBLA games having a special restriction on how much RAM they can use. I would think they have access to the same amount of RAM as their disc based counterparts.
sofik88's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2011 00:42
sofik88
i actually would like to have a retail version. i have retail version of the PC game.
make it 40-50$ add first Torchlight and some real bonus materials(not Resistance 3-type completely unrelated crap) like some user-created content for original game, soundtrack or digital artbook and you have my money.
D-roy's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2011 00:57
D-roy
Definitely looking forward to this title. Torchlight was really good, and Torchlight 2 looks to be better. Then there's Path of Exile and Grim Dawn in the works.

I like how more and more developers are starting to make MAC ports. It gives Microsoft a more little worry on the PC front. Would be cool if they could port some games over to Linux, if possible.
Klempky's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2011 01:11
Klempky
@Namo: RAM = Random-access /memory/.
tekbunny's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2011 01:11
tekbunny
Lol, diaf xbla. You suck balls.

Not in the good way.
Fuzunga's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2011 01:13
Fuzunga
But will it run on Wii U!?
frictionD's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2011 01:14
frictionD
Its RAM not filesize. Bastion was 3 times bigger than torchlight.
Rohman's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2011 01:34
Rohman
He said memory not ram and while 90% of the time they mean the same thing maybe this time he meant to say it in a file size sort of way.

Ther is a 2 gig limit on xbla games right now so it could be what he is talking about.

If that's the case why not release on games on demand like capcom is for the resident evil hd games?
afrotravis's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2011 01:56
afrotravis
take it to psn
sofik88's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2011 02:40
sofik88
it's about file size, not ram. XBLA titles don't have ram-use limit or anything like that. PC version of Torchlight is much bigger than XBLA version(considering my retail release) so i'm guessing he talks about the size of that version.
it's significantly bigger game compared to original - bigger campaign, several cities, CGI sequences(those take a lot of space) and much more content.
killias2's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2011 02:50
killias2
I'm not totally sold on Torchlight 1. I bought it forever, but, after I installed and beat Diablo 2's SP, I decided to finally try Torchlight. It has LOTS of nice interface touches over Diablo 2, but overall, it just feels.. empty and soulless. I can't really explain it, but I've basically already moved on from Torchlight. It's a great Diablo clone, but it's no Diablo successor.

Of course, maybe Torchlight 2 will come and blow the roof off the house.
Tristrix's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2011 02:51
Tristrix
To my knowledge, PSN doesn't have a file size limit (if it does, it's at least bigger than 6gb or so since I've downloaded games that size in the past). So that's an option. I'd probably buy this for PS3 over PC if the versions were more or less identical and I was given the option. Might even buy both. Gotta figure both Sony and their fans would love to have this given the success of the original.
killias2's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2011 02:54
killias2
And, to clarify: even though I'm a total Blizzard fanboy, this was my first time playing through Diablo 2. I loved Diablo 1 back in the day, and I was even a participant in the Diablo 2 stress test (oh.. Barbarians were everywhere). However, for one reason or another, I just never bought, installed, and played Diablo 2.

Thus, it's not like I have rose-tinted nostalgia glasses on for Diablo 2. Hell, it's actually quite a lot different from Diablo 1 (more than I expected, not always in positive ways) than I realized/remembered. I basically put D2 and Torchlight up back to back, and, for my taste, Diablo 2 came out ahead. Torchlight definitely improved upon the Diablo 2 approach, but it just lost something big in the transition. I almost felt like I was playing "Gameloft Presents: Diadlo."
Oskar Wilde's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2011 03:29
Oskar Wilde
I can't understand people who are saying "I'm choosing Torchlight 2 now, after all these things Blizz said!". Like Diablo III and Torchlight 2 were similar...

Seriously - isn't it about gameplay? For me it is. And I can't even compare extremely large and wide character progression from D3 to one from Torchlight 2. This does not matter? Required internet connection is more important than more various and bigger gameplay features? : O
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2011 03:59
Sexualchocolate
Just bring it to PSN. If microshaft can't facilitate it, tough.
sofik88's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2011 04:09
sofik88
@Sexualchocolate,
why would anyone bring anything to as crappy service as PSN. without basic online features PSN(that even silver accounts have on xbox live) it is useless given the fact that Torchlight 2 is very multiplayer focused game. not to mention the piss poor quality of the features PSN already has compared to XBL.
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2011 04:28
Sexualchocolate
"without basic online features PSN that even silver accounts have on xbox live it is useless given the fact that Torchlight 2 is very multiplayer focused game"

Seriously? You know the most basic feature that Silver XBL members DON'T have than PSN does, you know, the VERY ONE you're talking about, by far the MOST IMPORTANT one, the one essential for a "multiplayer focused game"????

LOL @ Sofik.

Are you seriously saying that Silver XBL members have better online play capabilities than PSN? You know, the silver members with little to no online play capabilities?

Unless you're talking about the other super useful XBL features...

I don't think Runic games needs Facebook and ESPN for Torchlight 2 dude, I'm not sure, i mean, it might be integrated, it might be essential but I'm not sure.

Have you even ever played online on a PS3? Get this, I have for getting on for 6 years. Pretty much daily.

I've had more issues with XBL in the 9 months i've had it, and i barely play it anyway. Seems whenever i do it struggles to keep me connected.

I soon turn it off after watching a "connecting" screen or getting a few "server for this game not available" mesages, and go back to free, reliable, dedicated server online gaming on PSN.

Again, LOL @ Sofik.
sofik88's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2011 06:03
sofik88
@Sexualchocolate,
you look so adorable trying really hard to make that BS sound like truth when everyone knows it's not.

i love how you'rew spinning online features into online play.
let's see:
downloading 300+mb file from xbox live - between 10-15minutes when i had 4mbps connection and depending on the time of day,
downloading Crash Tag Team Racing from PSN on the same connection(the file is roughly the same size) - 3+HOURS,
xbox live updates - matter of seconds(the biggest update took me about 5 minutes to download and it was when i was using my PC for download at the same time),
PSN updates - each took my brother between 10-20minutes and that's on current 12mbps CONNECTION,
let's not forget basically daily updates for games and other bullshit, constant online lags, problems with setting up basic online matches. there's a reason why nobody plays online on ps3, because setting up a single match between your friends takes up to 10 MINUTES in some games like Killzone 2.
lobbies and matchmaking suck donkey balls on ps3 and same goes to voice chat.
how come with my current connection 12mbps my brother couldn't play a single decent online match without constant lag especially present in ps3 exclusives like MAG at night when nobody is using computers at our place and i didn't play on my 360. when i can play on xbl any game online without any lag and still use 2 of my PCs to download files at 1mb/s speed EACH.
Epic-Kx's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2011 06:35
Epic-Kx
@Sofik @SexualChocolate
*in angry black woman voice* Y'ALL MUTHAFUCKAS BETTA SHUT THE FUCK UP. MY BASKETBALL WIVES IS ON. NOW Y'ALL GO IN Y'ALL ROOM FO I GO UPSTAIRS, GET THAT BELT, AND SLAP Y'ALL HEADS SO HARD THAT Y'ALL GON HAVE MO SCREWS THAT Y'ALL EGGSBAWKS AND BS3S. GO ON, NAO, GIT!.

Seriously though.
nanowerx's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2011 06:39
nanowerx
Can every thread NOT degenerate into a "my console is better than yours" circlejerk?
Nightsama's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2011 06:58
Nightsama
AWESOME I've been waiting for a sofik x sexyc grudge match.
Jonathan Beck's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2011 07:26
Jonathan Beck
Fuck XBLA. Where is my damn PC version already?
Scuffles's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2011 07:35
Scuffles
Well regardless of weather it is RAM or Install size, it sounds like it is only exceeding an artificial limit imposed on XBLA games and not system specs. If so that means that it is little more than MS red tape that is holding it up.
Stigmeyer's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2011 07:38
Stigmeyer
Well MS has been known to make exceptions with certain games being bigger than the set limits so let's just wait and see. The limits are more like guidelines anyway. :)

I haven't played Torchlight because I didn't think it looked like it brought anything all that new to the table. Perhaps Torchlight 2 will excite me more.
Nitex's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2011 08:06
Nitex
Kinda funny.
KingSigy's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2011 08:16
KingSigy
What they do is sell an unlock code and then release the game in as many files as needed. Yeah it's troublesome, but it will get by Live's stupid 2 gb limit.
Zerix's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2011 08:31
Zerix
@SexualChocolate

PS3 has less useable RAM than the 360. So not only would it not work, it would require more reconfiguring than the 360 version.

Once again this has nothing to do with file size, but RAM, so saying you've downloaded much bigger games on PSN and that's why it would work is silly.
pokota's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2011 08:32
pokota
@sofik88

I'm going to say this delicately, because I don't wish to offend you, but do you have some kind of mental condition or disorder? Maybe if we understood what kind of problems you're dealing with, we won't be so harsh. I used to think you were just a troll, or high-strung kid, but it's becoming more obvious with every day that something isn't quire normal with you. I'm grown past the laughter, now I'm just puzzled, and perhaps a bit worried. I have this vision of you getting lost in your own delusions, dressing up like the guy from Gears of War, and opening fire on innocent bystanders because in your head they're "from Sony". Maybe you should talk this out with someone?

Back on topic, I loved Torchlight, and I'm so looking forward to Torchlight II. It would be a shame if the people who buy it on XLA end up with a gimped version, though.
Faux Furry's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2011 08:33
Faux Furry
Seeing as how full-sized retail games are sold on Xbox Live, why not treat Torchlight 2 like one as a way of getting around that limitation? Then again, if they even release a limited run on disc, no rules will be broken and the game doesn't have to be scaled back to meet XBLA limits.
Better yet for those who care about such things, there will be the full 1000 gamerscore available instead of a mere 200 if they do so.
pokota's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2011 08:44
pokota
RunicGames Runic Games @
@Laneit360 @eurogamer_net Apparently even in disc it exceeds Xbox memory loads -would still need a redesign. (twitter)
MCBattery's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2011 08:52
MCBattery
@sofik While I almost always enjoy your hilarious trolling posts, Here you are either spewing blatant misinformation "As Usual" or you have some serious internet connection issues.
I HIGHLY recommend you get that checked out!!

Other than X-Game/Party Chat,PS3 Game installs,and XBL 2gb limit, I have never noticed much of a difference between XBL and PSN at all.
Retrofraction's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2011 08:55
Retrofraction
Good!!! XBLA makes EVERYTHING when devloping SLOW.

I could have been playing freaking Dungeon Defenders by now...But the XBLA proscess takes forever!!!

If that means the PC version is comming out soon all the power to em!!!
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2011 08:57
Sexualchocolate
@Sofik.

I'm just commenting on your very own words kiddo. Maybe you just typed a horrible collection of words, but you pretty much said the PSn is no good because it doesn't have "features" that Silver LIVE guys have.

Remember I, my self, not my brother, or my mates, I, have both a Slim PS3 and a Slim Xbox with Gold sub on the same WiFi, in the same room, plugged into the same TV. I, personally, not my borther etc, Update my PS3 in less than 2 minutes, so if it's taking your borther so long, something is not right. I am not lying when I say LIVE gives me way more trouble than PSN.

also it doesn't matter how fast you can download it over XBL, when it's TOO BIG for XBL anyway. lololololol.

Also adorable? Fuck yo' couch, youngblood.

Tryna teach yo grandmother to suck eggs.

Fuckin' kids these days.
josmeister's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2011 09:08
josmeister
I loved the first one(though I only played some 8 hours) but I'm slowly drifting from being effin' excited for D3 to being effin' drippin' for this one. I WANT IT. IN ME.
Infamy's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2011 09:30
Infamy
I don't know why rabid fanboys like SexualChoc think it's not ironic to attack other fanboys. Nobody takes the shit you say seriously just like the person you think you're schooling.
pokota's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2011 09:30
pokota
Anyone else think sofik88 and jimmyx would make a wonderful couple?
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