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Too Human is just like Star Wars and Lord of the Rings ... right

5:05 AM on 08.20.2008, Jim Sterling 32 comments

Too Human is just like Star Wars and Lord of the Rings ... right photo
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Looks like Microsoft PR is weighing in on Too Human now, which is shocking since Silicon Knights was doing such a fine job on their own. Showing its support for the "trilogy" by comparing it to other famous trilogies (which actually are trilogies because they actually have three installments, actually actually) such as the original Star Wars movies and the Lord of the Rings

Microsoft Game Studios and Silicon Knights are committed to finishing the first instalment, but Too Human is an overarching epic with a rich and vast game universe that cannot be told in one instalment.

This game will begin the saga of the god Baldur in the narrative tradition of classic trilogies, such as Star Wars and Lord Of The Rings. We will talk about the full trilogy and we are very excited about its potential.

I am getting really sick of this arrogant, presumptuous attitude not just from SK and Microsoft, but from all sorts of developers and publishers. Just SAYING a game is an epic trilogy doesn't make it so -- you have to make the game worth something before you can claim it's comparable to "classic trilogies." You can't bottle the magic of a famous trilogy. It's something that just happens, and if you decide before you've even started that you will create that magic from scratch, you will fail. The first Too Human took ten years to make, and they couldn't even make it look good in demo form. To say that is the foundation of a classic trilogy is a twisted joke. 

It's never wise to make definitive predictions in this business, but if there is one thing I can say with the fullest confidence, it's this -- Too Human will never, never ever ever, never be to videogames what Star Wars is to movies. Also, Too Human isn't a trilogy until three games exist. End of story.


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Tron at 08/20/2008 05:29
You know, Dyack and the whole "This is the greatest game ever you just don't get it!!!" attitude is the reason I won't be buying this game.
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hjd uk at 08/20/2008 05:30
I love that fact that they have definitly decided that its going to be a trilogy even before the 1st one sells any copies. I bet it blows and the the Trillogy is canned. Just smacks of arrogance and/or delusion.
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stevenjazz787 at 08/20/2008 05:43
Games are about the gameplay, the story can only take you so far...

Except Final Fantasy (my favorite series) because, generally, it's press confirm button until your asked to change the disk 15 hours later, repeat. It makes me feel good.
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Timmeh at 08/20/2008 05:43
Too Human is an overarching epic with a rich and vast game universe that cannot be told in one instalment.

The game can be completed in 10 hours. To me that says it can indeed be told in one installment given that most RPGs have considerably more to their main storyline. It is more a case of not wanting to tell it in one installment and wanting to make three games to try and recoup the many years they threw down the drain on a shit game because the tech has been finished now.

Well fuck Microsoft and fuck Denis "I'm so highbrow" Dyack, you won't be getting a penny from me for this ass game.

Try putting everything you can into the first game and if people like that, expand on it in further installments. I hear that works better than taking a story and cutting it up to try and get 3x the sales for essentially one game. God fucking damn I really despise pretty much everything about the games industry these days. I feel like one of the Fast Show's grumpy Old Men.
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menage at 08/20/2008 05:52
Game might be shitted. But Mass effect pulled off what you're hating on here.
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CrudeDarkness at 08/20/2008 05:52
copy paste

[Denis Dyack OWNED BY NeoGAF]
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RJG at 08/20/2008 05:56
How about just making ONE good fucking game?
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JJ Rage at 08/20/2008 05:57
@---AMARU---
The thing that pisses me off most about Too Human is that it was chosen over an Eternal Darkness sequel.


@hjd_uk
Agreed. It's Advent Rising all over again.
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DeusPayne at 08/20/2008 06:21
Who knows, by the time Too Human 2 comes out, we'll have virtual reality games. And by the time Too Human 3 comes out, we'll just be plugging our brains into consoles. Guaranteed to be the best virtual game of 2056.
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Shael at 08/20/2008 06:45
Last I heard...Star Wars isn't a trilogy. Star Wars has six films and that's not counting the Ewoks spin-offs...

Either MS needs to hire somebody who can count or there's a very bitter Star Wars fan there that absolutely hates the prequels. It doesn't make sense to hate the OT, does it?
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Capn Birdseye at 08/20/2008 07:15
I was really looking forward to Too Human until I played the demo - its not horrible, but yeah, its definitely not worth paying full price for. Just seems like Diablo to me, and gets about the same amount of meh.

I definitely feel where you are coming from with this article. I hear the plot just teases you along, and gives you a "to be continued" ending, which is pretty weak.

If they can't give me a reason to play through the first one, why am I going to stick it out over three installments? Devs should put everything they have into one game to hook the demographic first, else this happens.

And not to start a flame war, but Eternal Darkness was horrible IMO. Looks like the only thing these guys did right was the first Legacy of Kain :)
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B-Radicate at 08/20/2008 07:21
@JJ Rage: I liked Advent Rising. I'm kinda pissed about that whole thing, actually. Haha.

Also, Jim, you're pretty much spot on with this one. Dyack is delusional and Microsoft is trying to back him up because they've told him they'd make three of his games when they likely realize it's shit. At least they should, otherwise they're blind themselves.

They're just grasping at straws at this point. The sales will show us all how epic the game really is, but I highly doubt it will be anywhere CLOSE to the hit they claim it will end up being... eventually... once we all comprehend its majesty.
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Pilliy at 08/20/2008 07:29
If Miyamoto got a gaging order, anyone related to Too Human development should be issued one.
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Demtor at 08/20/2008 07:32
The more he talks, the less I want to play this game.

He provides free entertainment though as I laugh at pretty much all of his comments. The Dyack chronicles brought to us by Jim have been highly entertaining to say the least, and you don't even have to buy this laughable game to enjoy them.
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zombiekiller13 at 08/20/2008 07:32
Awesome. I mean, sure, it's a PR person's job to hype up a game, as well as the job of the people behind the game...but this is just coming off as being a bunch of pompous asses. They are saying "if you don't like this game, you're stupid". Everything I'm reading is saying the game is either okay or completely blows. The ones that are saying it's okay are also saying it doesn't deliver what SK has been promising.

Sound familiar? Cough, cough, Fable 1, cough, cough. At least with the case of Fable, they admitted they missed what they were after and look to be making up for it in the second one. Maybe that'll be the case with Too Human 2.

But...it's like they never learn. Wait to see what the gamers say...don't tell us what we should think of your game.
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necrozen at 08/20/2008 09:48
@ JJ Rage

You've gotta be FUCKING kidding me!! They made this stupid game INSTEAD OF ANOTHER ETERNAL DARKNESS!!!!

My hate for this game keeps multiplying, soon it will become self-aware and I'll shit out a second version of me made entirely of loathing.
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F Whipple at 08/20/2008 09:49
some people just don't learn
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Mig29 at 08/20/2008 10:24
@ B-Radicate: I to am pissed of about the whole Advent Rising fiasco. I mean the game had tons of flaws but it also had tremendous potential for an amazing sequel.

This whole "Too Human" business is really starting to bore me. If you doubt that the game is bad or mediocre, just play the demo and you'll see the truth.

If "Too Human" really becomes a trilogy I will personally award Dennis Dyack the "Bullshitter of the Century" award for actually being able to bullshit consumers and producers into supporting him and helping him make three (probably) horrible games.
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Faith at 08/20/2008 10:36
I'm looking forward to the other games. Unless the mass haters, I'm liking the game and love the unique take on the Norse mythology.

Dennis Dyack may have a mouth on him, but his game is good.
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protomark at 08/20/2008 11:03
the first star wars was a bad movie anyway.

whoooooo
knowwwwwwws
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Terror Player at 08/20/2008 11:09
Well, strictly speaking, Star Wars is a Hexalogy, and The Lord of the Rings isn't a trilogy, since it was conceived as a single volume. Due to the length, it was released as three books, so as to release them in three parts.

But, yeah. Metal Gear Solid has more right to claim that title, and is humble enough not to do it!
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TrailerParkJesus at 08/20/2008 12:48
Maaaaaan yous guys just don't understand.
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burgerdog at 08/20/2008 12:54
I'd argue that Too Human will not be a trilogy. If the game doesn't come to three proper "endings" it's not a trilogy, it's an episodic game.

If they want to add some new features to part 2 and part 3 of whatever planned trilogy is, fine, but for god sakes, make each game stand as a complete story and not an arbitrary episode of "lost" or "24" with a vague promise that if you stick it out for the better part of the decade you'll be really happy you did.

Game technology and design changes too fast for me to be waiting around to see if SK or any other company will make it all worthwhile if I hang in there.
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ace of knaves at 08/20/2008 13:13
I saw the Clone Wars movie yesterday. Too Human seems to be more comparable to that.
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Sharpless at 08/20/2008 14:30
Tolkien and C.S. Lewis (he loved Norse mythology) are spinning in their respective graves. As is George Lucas' talent.
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Crumpet Lips at 08/20/2008 15:32
Indeed Jim. I concur. Ma-numa-na
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MechaMonkey at 08/20/2008 17:27
Three games? It must be good!
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