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Tonight, the regular cast (which, ironically, is pretty irregular) will discuss all this completely fabricated BioShock 2 hoopla, not realizing the irony that by spending podcast time debunking ridiculous rumors they are encouraging that people fabricate more ludicrous things for attention. And we might talk about Bob's Game and RE5 racism one final time, but maybe not. We'll also probably talk about Dtoid's birthday.

You could always suggest things to talk about, if you want. That's partially what the listener questions are for. The other part is to reward people with Dtoid swag bags, and that's probably the more interesting part as far as you fine listeners are concerned.

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Darth Kupi's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2009 12:42
Darth Kupi
I started coming to Destructoid right after Summa left (fired? I

dunno), so I was like "whateva".

Ever since then, I've seen him mentioned and discussed, and its

now reached mythic proportions.

I would just like a history lesson on the man, the myth, the

legend.

What the hell is the whole deal with him?

In short, Robert Summa Meme:Origins

Discuss!
Faith's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2009 12:43
Faith
My nephew is 3 years old and he loves this clip. Ask for it by saying: Chef donuts. Kid has great taste.
PappaDukes's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2009 12:44
PappaDukes
About halfway through RE 5 I completely forgot we were even in Africa! What with all the ruins and such. Anyone else find that disturbingly racist?
Luke Barnard's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2009 12:45
Luke Barnard
hey anthony, did you show linde that picture i drew of him?
RAB's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2009 12:50
RAB


Discuss.
Unassuming Local Guy's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2009 12:53
Unassuming Local Guy
Please talk about co-op gameplay as being either a nice, harmless addition or a detraction from a single-player game's greater experience. If you would.

Also, what did you think about the cooperative nature of RE5?
ryu89's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2009 12:54
ryu89
Do you think a game that is NOT built around co op, but includes it is inherently worsened because of it? I ask this because of alot of the stink that people have been giving bioshock 2 most likely having co op in it, because bioshock is supposed to be a solitary personal experience. However, if you beat the game once by yourself, don't you think it would be more fun to play it through with another person and build on that experience? Or am I just crazy?
Senisan's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2009 12:55
Senisan
For those of you who have played a fair amount of resident evil 5 with another human player, what did you guys think of the coop? did you like having coop quicktime events? if this is true, why are you lying :)
OrangeGoblin's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2009 13:00
OrangeGoblin
I just bought a PS2. What should I be playing?
BS3 Owner's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2009 13:00
BS3 Owner
@ RAB

wow.
Kyle MacGregor's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2009 13:01
Kyle MacGregor
Has anyone played or is excited about the recent release of Madworld?
welkstar's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2009 13:01
welkstar
I hate to start a "what is art?" conversation, but I came across this quote from Tolstoy and it got me thinking...

[i]"To evoke in oneself a feeling one has once experienced and having evoked it in oneself then by means of movements, lines, colours, sounds, or forms expressed in words, so to transmit that feeling that others experience the same feeling-this is the activity of art.
Art is a human activity consisting in this, that one man consciously by means of certain external signs, hands on to others feelings he has lived through, and that others are infected by these feelings and also experience them."[/i]

So basically, if someone can successfully transmit a feeling into their work so that another person, upon viewing the work, has the same sensation, then the artist has truly succeeded in making a work of art.

For example, Miyamoto used his memories of exploring the woods and caves behind his house as a child as a direct inspiration for The Legend of Zelda. I'm sure there are plenty of developers that do this.

I just kind of wanted to hear your thoughts, do you think most developers consciously making these types of decisions, or are they just trying to cash in?
welkstar's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2009 13:02
welkstar
So much for italics then...
gatorsax2010's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2009 13:03
gatorsax2010
The greatest thing the Swedish Chef has ever done.

I've seen a lot of people say in regards to Bioshock 2 (and other games, too) something along the lines of "I'll only check it out if there's co-op." Colette already said more eloquently than I could have why co-op doesn't fit into the world of Bioshock as we know it now, but what do you think of this "co-op or bust" attitude? It seems more and more people are finding it a necessary addition to all FPS games, whether it truly needs it or not.
wardrox's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2009 13:05
wardrox
What wine goes best with video games? You are welcome to make a witty put about alternative meaning to "wine".


Chronic Logic's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2009 13:05
Chronic Logic
Bioshock co-op? What's wrong with that? You might have a hard time sharing ADAM, or sharing a Little Sister (implied naughtiness). But are there going to be online multiplayer? I could see some imba issues due to the plasmid powers. I mean the first person to use an ice plasmid to freeze someone is fucked. Maybe there's going to be like a VS mode? Big Daddies have to protect the Little Sisters while the humans have to rape the ADAM out of the Little Sisters.
Senisan's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2009 13:07
Senisan
Doh, I forgot to check to see if anyone asked anything similar. I will try again. I recently read a post earlier by Jim about a reader who had gotten so angry that he broke his psp and he concluded it by asking what's the worst thing the community has done. I wanted to know if you could probably throw that discussion onto the podcast as well.
goodgamer77's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2009 13:11
goodgamer77
As much as I really hate the idea of any BioShock sequel, we will probably all play it out of a morbid curiosity if nothing else (I call this the Watchmen Complex for long time fans who knew they would hate the movie because it would never live up to the book, but spent $10 on opening weekend anyway).

My question is: assuming that the game's story is crap (which it will most likely be) do you think that you will be able to enjoy it for its entertaining gameplay, or is the unholy bastardization of a great universe going to kick you in the crotch and make you call it mistress?
falinter's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2009 13:11
falinter
Whats up with games with multiplayer/co-op not having lobbies?

RE5 brought this question to mind. I can't start the same game as a friend because he has to be in the game and invite me in. Meaning I miss the opening video of the game. This has also happened to me in 50 Cent Blood on the Sand.

You'd think the developer would try to get the co-op perfect, especially if thats a big draw of the game.

Or maybe this is only bothering me and im insane.

Also, Happy Bday Niero/Dtoid.
greeneggsnsam's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2009 13:12
greeneggsnsam
My girlfriend made me a stuffed toy Headcrab this week, and it's awesome. Have any of you guys made any videogame memorabilia, or had it made for you?
iconsam's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2009 13:12
iconsam
I thought Jim's article on RE5 being not racist was right on the money. But would there be a recent game that could actually be considered racist?

The ones from the top of my head are GTA4 for it's stereotyped portrayal of Eastern Europeans, Irish immigrants, Italians and Red Steel for it's BS unrealistic fake-accent yakuza. But would these be considered generalized stereotypes for the sake of storytelling?
grassr00ts's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2009 13:18
grassr00ts
Why the hell has that song from top gun been picked to start off each song? Is this something we can blame on Adam Dork?
oh my god bear is driving's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2009 13:21
oh my god bear is driving
I think in RE5's case, the multiplayer simplifies much of the game since your partner is actual intelligence and in most cases may have already completed the game. This of course removes a lot of the tension as well as spoiling the admittedly shallow puzzles.

However, on the flip side there are the games that see you playing co-op and decide to throw more enemies with higher HP into the mix. A bad example of this would be Too Human what with its rubbishness.

Do you think that modern co-op should be a challenge for gamers to master like any other multiplayer mode, or should it be a tool for easier game progression? Does a Co-op game mode need a bigger challenge than the single player?
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2009 13:22
Tubatic
Don't you think "is racist" is incredibly restrictive a term to use when talking about racial topic for games? Do you think there would be less knee jerk reactions about the RE5 racial perception topics if different language was used to layout the issue?
Reginald's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2009 13:22
Reginald
Do you feel that more companies should try and learn from what Valve has accomplished with L4D ? I'm referring specifically to the Versus mode, where in the infected are quite different, almost asymmetrical in their design, and truly require each other in order to succeed. this feels quite different than the rock-paper-scissors strategy that games like Starcraft and Teamfortress 2 employ.

would you like to see more iterations on this gameplay concept, the way the "cover system" has been in recent years ?
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2009 13:30
Tubatic
Considering a more fun topic: What do you think about video game campaign length becoming shorter (see Mirror's Edge, Madworld, Fable II)? If a game delivers a coherent and complete narrative/gameplay package in a relatively brief span of time, should this be considered a negative?

Or, if you prefer: Is $50 to $60 really a reasonable admission price for a narrative based game experience?
Xhumation's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2009 13:36
Xhumation
How Influencial are videogames to the collective subconscious?

I'm not saying they're evil or they make you violent. However they seem pretty capable of introducing ideas or memes into the minds of gamers. "The cake is a lie" or "resident evil is racist" seem to be a product of this quality of videogames?

is interactivity related to this? since the medium is more interactive than books or movies. Does it make it more influencial?
Dark Mark's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2009 13:38
Dark Mark
It's quite the coincidence that the first question here (by Darth Kupi) was the subject of a conversation I just had with the lovely Adam Dork at the Dtoid HQ Saturday Night.

I was a bit taken aback by the response.

From my perspective as an old fan of the site, R.S. was just fucking irritating. I don't like attention whores.
Char Aznable's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2009 13:44
Char Aznable
What will it take to make Aaron Linde happy? We've gone easy on the Siegelpuns, Bonerquestions are trickling in at a slower pace, and he's been the subject of several masterful works of art created by Phallus Knife Fight.

Truce?
enigma343's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2009 13:46
enigma343
What do you think of Vin Diesel's planned Punic Wars MMO? What do you think of artists from other mediums like Diesel and Spielburg trying their hand at game development?
Darren Nakamura's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2009 13:49
Darren Nakamura
@Reginald: Ever play the Splinter Cell games online? They were an example of asymmetric team-based versus modes, and for being the first of their kind, they worked pretty well.

@Podtoid: You should make Samit a regular cast member anyway.
flaming burrito's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2009 13:52
flaming burrito
Do you guys think that with the economy the way it currently is, that we'll see an end to the $60 price point and it will drop back down to a reasonable price?
Spelunking raccoon's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2009 13:56
Spelunking raccoon
Do you think for gaming to be completely accepted by the media celebrities are going to have to be made of programmers? If only so they could print pictures of them on a beach looking fat.
goodgamer77's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2009 13:56
goodgamer77
If you could play a videogame with any set of celebrities, who would it be? I think I'd wanna play MarioKart with Wil Wheaton, Jonathan Coulton and Felicia Day.

Mmmmm....
stafax's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2009 14:00
stafax
I think you should discuss this during your Bioshock 2 discussion:

Colette has written an article about why coop in Bioshock 2 would be a terrible idea, and quite a few people commenting on that article agree. Did everyone forget System Shock 2? System Shock 2 had coop, and I don't know of anyone who claims the coop ruined that game. Plus, 2K Marin is made up of former employees of 2K Boston, so from the sounds of it, Bioshock 2 is being developed by mostly the same people. People just don't have any trust for developers anymore.
Diverse's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2009 14:03
Diverse
Wow, it's Swedish Chef? I always thought it was Sweetie Chef.
Isay Isay's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2009 14:10
Isay Isay
No siegelpuntz this week. Forget it, Podtoid. It's Chinatown...Wars
/damn it


So it recently came out that Atlus is not doing so hot financially. Their current console releases have been largely failures (the Trauma Center being the only exceptions) and they haven't even bothered trying anything on the PS3 (BIAS!). However, they are continuing to bang out interesting titles on both portable platforms and still have a strong showing on the PS2. Based on this and the recent announcement of Atlus Online, can a niche company like Atlus survive this way? Is this a result of the current economic situation or has the games industry evolved to the point where obscure titles are relegated to indie PC games, handhelds, and XBLA/PSN? Should I be prepping for Persona 5 to be a MMORPG or using the Wii remote to shoot myself in the head?
Dark Mark's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2009 14:11
Dark Mark
@Diverse

Perhaps if you understood the Swedish language, you would have known that he was obviously from Sweden. He taught me all I know about the language.
UglyDuck's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2009 14:30
UglyDuck
@Xhumation
Snakes on a Plane. Over 9000. Chocolate rain. Dumbledore Dies. NEDM. None of these are videogame memes. They can come from anywhere. But I see your point, and it's still a good question.

Anyway, I've been thinking recently (shut up). I'm not quite sure how to say what I'm thinking, so bear with me if this comes out a bit weird. It's common knowledge that a lot of videogames, despite whatever mature content they possess, are marketed at kids, yet people generally assume that they are the target audience, expecing the game be catered to them. For example, a stupid cock joke in Blacksite or Jericho or something would be seen as bad writing, even though the kind of thick teen that buys those games is not likely to complain.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that there is a definate rift between kids films and mature films, yet in videogames, that rift doesn't really exist (generaly speaking). So does it make you feel stupid to think that all this time, you've been thoughtfully critiquing and arguing over baby toys? :p

Or, if you don't like that question, do you think we will ever see a videogame equivilent of The Godfather in terms of maturity and complexity?

*My browser dictionary doesn't understand the word 'movie'.
Dimly's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2009 14:37
Dimly
I hate Sheva's A.I. Am I racist?
Ambulance-Y's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2009 14:45
Ambulance-Y
I don't understand how anyone could see resident evil 5 as racist. Seeing as the game takes place in africa, where the bla.... i mean african americans always insist on reminding us they are from. It is completely accurate that a game set in africa would have a black guy or two. I don't remember resident evil 4 being racist twords spainish people. was call of duty 4 racist tword middle-easterns? the PC police are always looking for something to bitch about and this was just another case of it.

if there is any hint of racisim in the game it is the other way around, all those black people chasing after and trying to kill the only white guys? sounds racist to me.

besides if the blacks would go to school rather than dropping out they would know they are from africa, thus the setting and enemies found therein make sense. if i just wanted to run around killing blacks for the sake of killing blacks i'll play GTA san andreas (which they loved by the way)
Naktu's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2009 14:45
Naktu
With the potential, maybe, likely, oh who gives a fuck if it's real, rumors flying around concerning Bioshock 2, do you guys think that perspective changes in video games, where you take a completely different point of view in the same universe, are genuinely interesting and valid branches of game development, or do you feel that devs are just being uncreative and saying "Screw it, we can milk this world for another game"?
Ambulance-Y's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2009 14:57
Ambulance-Y
prime example of a racist game: Fatal Frame/project zero, Japanese people running around taking pictures?!?! sounds pretty racist to me, too bad no one has ever played the games to that.
MrFwankie's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2009 15:03
MrFwankie
There have been a lot of complaints about how RE5 is simply "more" RE4 but in HD. In your opinion, what does RE6 have to do to make it as revolutionary as RE4?

PS - RE5 is still awesome. I bought and started it yesterday, making my way through Chapter 1-2 on veteran in online co-op.

BONUS QUESTION: do any of you want to be the Sheva to my Chris and play online?
MrFwankie's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2009 15:05
MrFwankie
BONUS INFORMATION: my 360 gamertag is Schizowolf.
KMCC's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2009 15:18
KMCC
The Bioshock demo was WAY better than the game.
Necro BABS's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2009 15:26
Necro BABS
What does it take to make a GOOD Co-op/AI controlled person? I mean lets face it, Sheva is horrible, for me at least she runs through ammo like water and herbs like she is smoking them. But we all consider Alex vance the icon of of what supporting character is. Would Alex loose her crown if she was able to be co-op controlled? Would value's black voodoo magic make alex better then what capcom could come up with? Do we really need a co-op/supporting person?

If we do then what could we do to fix it?
If we don't, then why force it down our throats

this could include Sheva or Dom.
wolfdragon's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2009 15:40
wolfdragon
Excluding games like WarioWare do you think there is a game that has shown us the true potential mini games have? Mini games that are not only fun but also have a reasonable connection to the story and the world they are in.
Chewpathingy's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2009 15:49
Chewpathingy
After reading this article at Magical Wasteland, it had me wondering what the Podtoid crew felt about it.

What is everyones take on how video games seem to be the most nostalgia inducing media out there. Thoughts?

Also, i would love to know if anyone is going to be going to SIGGRAPH this year. Him im looking at you. As it is in New Orleans and i will hopefully be attending.
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