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TIME names Natal one of the best inventions of 2009 photo

TIME Magazine has chosen the 50 best inventions of 2009, and Microsoft's Project Natal -- along side "teleportation" (wait, what the hell?!) -- has made the list. 

While the thing isn't even officially available, it's totally functional, and you can't argue that what it promises to do is damned impressive. Well, at least TIME thinks so. Its readers, on the other hand, have rated it a 54 out of 100, with "100" being the most important.

Having used the thing a few times, I must say I'm impressed -- it matched my movements pretty damned well, even when I thrust my crotch so I could hit a ball with it. But am wary as to how it'll translate to unique gameplay situations. If rumors are to be believe, we should know by this time next year.


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Jon B's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/12/2009 21:04
Jon B
Woah woah, TELEPORTATION?
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/12/2009 21:10
Xzyliac
Telepor-fucking-tation? My goddess!

Anyhow I'm really cautiously optimistic about Natal given the good word the scrupulous DToid team has given it.
Carl Sagan's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/12/2009 21:14
Carl Sagan
Oh my gosh.

I'm living in the twenty-first century.
Kraid's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/12/2009 21:14
Kraid
All we need now is a third-world war , 2 warp drives and a first contact with the Vulcans.
matrixdude171's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/12/2009 21:15
matrixdude171
That's ridiculous. If it hasn't even finished being made it shouldn't count. Then again, teleportation didn't count either since it's not really teleportation.
pedrovay2003's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/12/2009 21:22
pedrovay2003
Natal is in the same award thing as teleportation?

God, I hope Microsoft never finds out about this.
Eficent's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/12/2009 21:23
Eficent
So is it going to be on the list again next year when it officially releases?
DinnertimeNinja's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/12/2009 21:24
DinnertimeNinja
Natal is just the evolution of the EyeToy/PSEye.

There's not much there that's "innovative" or deserving of acclaim in my mind.
Hcapt's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/12/2009 21:28
Hcapt
Not to montion, the current iteration of Natal is in many ways simply an upgrade to the eye-toy (maybe. It hasn't actually been shown to be more accurate than the eye-toy at this time, and we are kind of simply taking Microsoft's word that the device is more accurate).

Actually, I have been wondering just how accurate the device is compared to an eye toy. Sure I've been told, many times, by microsoft, that Natal uses some really advanced technology to accurately position the player within a few centimeters, but technically an eye toy can do that too provided line of sight (because the eye toy is a camera, it can tell if you make a slight movement with as much accuracy as a camera. If a person moves on camera even a couple centimeters, a normal person at the other end will most likely see it. Thus, with that level of accuracy already implemented on the eye toy, I am curious just how much different Natal is from eye toy in terms of accuracy).

Come to think of it, did the eye toy ever make the list?
father33's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/12/2009 21:29
father33
Yeah they successfully "teleported" an atom. Time to set your watches to the future.
timtheterrible's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/12/2009 21:29
timtheterrible
@ matrixdude

How is it not teleportation?
father33's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/12/2009 21:31
father33
Yeah they successfully "teleported" an atom. Time to set your watches to the future.
gamadaya's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/12/2009 21:32
gamadaya
The fact that this list contains both teleportation and something called "the no-punt offense" makes me incredibly sad.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/12/2009 21:36
Xzyliac
@Hcapt and DinnertimeNinja
I get what both of you are saying but I gotta ask: Have either of you played the Natal?

I mean no shit it's the evolution of the EyeToy but is that a bad thing?

I had an EyeToy and let me tell you it was bullocks. However Natal definitely looks different. And I couldn't give a shit what MSoft says but the praise isn't just coming from MS as evidenced twice in this very post.

I'm not a Natal supporter but I'd never knock it before I try it.
Drakengard's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/12/2009 21:38
Drakengard
Hmmm... I hate MS, but I am digging NATAL. I'll always love the traditional controller, but this kind of motion control is interesting if only to see how they implement it into games.

I'm not against games being physically more interactive than just pushing a button. In fact, so long as this is applied correctly, it should be a blase. Now, that said, I still hate MS... So I'll not be getting a 360 any time soon. Guess I'll just have to see what SONY cooks up...
mr spooky's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/12/2009 21:40
mr spooky
Total BS because this thing hasn't been released to public.
Sherwood513's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/12/2009 21:42
Sherwood513
Anyone else think of the marketing opportunities associated with Natal and crotch thrusting?
Eficent's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/12/2009 21:44
Eficent
All I'm hoping for is they make games FOR Natal and not games that work with a controller and slap Natal controls in there. Of course people will want to use a controller in those situations because that's what the games were made for...at least that's the way I see it.

And really I think a little doubt to all the hype is more than healthy considering how much this industry relies on it.
Qraze's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/12/2009 21:44
Qraze
standing to play games will be the end of the "enjoyable" video game experience. this goes for the PSenis as well.
Hcapt's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/12/2009 21:55
Hcapt
@ Xzyliac

Of course I haven't played Natal. Microsoft, in apite of it's massive publicizing of the device, hasn't let a typical gamer touch it. Only game journalists and celebrities were allowed to touch it; and I've never heard a bad preview from a gaming journalist. (By the way, I WOULD in fact like to hear a bad preview from a game journalist if a game will be bad. What kind of journalist spins every single preview into a positive light?)

I have, however, seen a popularized video that's been making me nervous.

http://www.hulu.com/watch/77038/late-night-with-jimmy-fallon-project-natal-demo

If you look closely at the end, Natal just plain ignores some of the drive commannds.
EnigmaticHarle's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/12/2009 22:12
EnigmaticHarle
I was really hoping the video for the picture would be in here, I want to see this.

Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the EyeToy do the same things as Natal? They may not use the same technology, but they are the same, non?
gabapenteado's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/12/2009 22:25
gabapenteado
Guys, really, screw teleportation, there's an invention called THE ELECTRIC EYE


+50 for judas priest reference

now they just need to invent the Hellion
MisterGrieves's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/12/2009 22:30
MisterGrieves
Was 2009 a dry year in the patent office?
HEL105's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/12/2009 22:33
HEL105
@mr spooky
I don't think teleportation has been released to the public, either. Something doesn't have to be available at your local store to be considered an invention.

I've said from the beginning that natal could have some impressive and inventive applications, just not in gaming. I love controllers, I don't see how they're an impediment for the video game industry at all.

Microsoft, please don't ruin Fable 3 and Halo: Reach with any gimmiky nonsense. Focus all that money on developing good games that use the tools you already have.
Camiwaits's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/12/2009 22:54
Camiwaits
It's official Natal has online teleportation playing!
Hcapt's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/12/2009 22:59
Hcapt
By the way, does the Natal Xbox that's coming out still support sterioscopic 3D?

http://video-game-consoles-review.toptenreviews.com/natal-xbox-may-support-stereoscopic-3d.html
Carlton Banks's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/12/2009 23:16
Carlton Banks
This makes as much sense as Obama winning the Nobel Peace Prize.
Crunshiii's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/12/2009 23:33
Crunshiii
what a great invention! body recognition camera, for gaming! I swear this wasn't done before with a web cam back in 2005! or the PS3 Eye Toy which does pretty much the same thing! WOW!
Hoss's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/12/2009 23:36
Hoss
@carlton

thats IMMEDIATELY what i thought of
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/12/2009 23:50
Xzyliac
@Hcapt
Kotaku negatively previews games. They always have that nice little "This is a work in progress but," leadin into it.

In fact I've heard the phrase "...but they still have a few months to polish it," in previews all the time.
DinnertimeNinja's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/13/2009 00:40
DinnertimeNinja
@Xzyliac

I have a PS3Eye and it's pretty much worthless outside of using it as a webcam (it's a GREAT webcam, by the way) and a speaker for chat (but it seems to be really quiet on the other end).

The problem is, pretty much EVERY tech demo or game we've seen for Natal are just tweaked versions of mini-games that have already been on the EyeToy and PS3Eye and they've all SUCKED at being more than a 5 minute amusement to bust out with relatives.

I don't see how you can say the Natal "looks different" at all when Sony could very realistically make versions of all those Natal "games" as a free download for the PS3Eye.

It may be more exact, but that doesn't mean there's any legitimate FUN application for it on the gaming side.
D Sane's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/13/2009 02:48
D Sane
I dunno about anyone else, but reading over a few of the entries in this list made me feel like TIME was just putting a lot of bullshit down so that people would click through their article. Almost every thing I read was something that was either insignificant despite the site's exclamations of how significant it was or it was something that hasn't happened yet or hasn't been proven (Natal, AIDS vaccine). I found the article to be complete and utter trash.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/13/2009 05:49
Xzyliac
@DinnertimeNinja
I've never touched a PS3Eye so you may be right and I may be plugged into the hype machine.

However I still think it's very negative to just immediately write it off without even giving it a chance.

I mean it wouldn't be the first somebody came out with a piece of hardware copying an earlier piece of hardware and succeeded in software.

@D Sane
Yeah that's Time. It's either really good or a whole lotta bullshit.
eskimo bob's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/13/2009 06:05
eskimo bob
after checking through the "Top 5 worst inventions" list (3 outta 5 were pretty "meh"), I suggest that a change to that list should take place; take the "no-punt offence" from the "Best" list and switch it out with the "Gas mask bra" from the "Worst" list.

IT'S A BRA THAT CAN BE CONVERTED INTO A PAIR OF GAS MASKS, IT'S LIKE HAVING OPTIMUS PRIME ON YOUR FUCKING TITS.
Jonny's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/13/2009 08:19
Jonny
I'm fairly certain that calling it "teleportation" is completely ignorant on their part.
What they're referring to has been worked on with limited success for a good deal of time and is called quantum entanglement.
Teleportation is by definition the dematerialization of matter and rematerialization in another location. While in these experiment you simply have two points where their states match exactly at any given point despite the distance between the two.

In other news, wtf is a natal?
Mr eX's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/13/2009 08:30
Mr eX
Brundle Fly
whormongr's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/13/2009 08:59
whormongr
I am actually holding a wait and see but it may be the thing that gets me to buy a 360(as I only have the other 2 consoles right now), but like I said it is a wait and see
TheJesusNinja26's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/13/2009 09:26
TheJesusNinja26
@Hcapt - "Only game journalists and celebrities were allowed to touch it"

Not true, it was playable to anyone who wanted to wait in a massive line at COMICON this year. Lots of average joe's (dressed in wacky costumes) got to play it.

News sites just didn't cover it so no one knew.
TheJesusNinja26's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/13/2009 09:40
TheJesusNinja26
Wait this isn't even out yet though, huh? I don't know if 'proof of concept' counts. This is just like Obama winning the nobel peace prize FOR DOING NOTHING, not even the stuff he promised to do while running. America got duped by a good public speaker.

http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/clips/obama-address/1163263/

LAUGHABLE!!!
RenagadePanda's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/13/2009 10:55
RenagadePanda
Natal supports teleportation, confirmed.
mrandydixon's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/13/2009 11:54
mrandydixon
@thejesusninja26

Better than being duped by a bad public speaker with a low IQ to boot.
kaocrat's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/16/2009 12:26
kaocrat
Usually when TIME lists its inventions of the year, the technologies don't pan out. (Segway, anyone?) It's mostly hype to keep advertisers happy, with one or two genuinely important items tossed in to lend it some credibility. Also, I love how they rank Natal as being a more important invention than the AIDS vaccine.
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