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Great, so which engine is he planning on using? Unreal or Crysis?
I'd like to see this game before I have grandkids, so Johnny would do well to license something that's already done or use Doom 3's as I doubt anything he'll make will be able to blow our socks off much more than Crysis or Unreal 3's has.
I'd like to see this game before I have grandkids, so Johnny would do well to license something that's already done or use Doom 3's as I doubt anything he'll make will be able to blow our socks off much more than Crysis or Unreal 3's has.
Finally we may be getting some good fps games instead of some shitty piece of crap for the consoles.
I do want Commander Keen! Badly!
dvd: I wouldn't be surprised if a new id engine was a reaction to Crysis and U3. Still, the more the merrier. I'd rather have more options than less.
dvd: I wouldn't be surprised if a new id engine was a reaction to Crysis and U3. Still, the more the merrier. I'd rather have more options than less.
@dvddesign,
I think you're underestimating the power of the force that is id. It's a *new* engine by the guy who pretty much invented FPS as we know it today.
Why license something that's already been done? Isn't that taking a step backwards? There's always room for an id engine and given the advances that the CryEngine has undergone, alongside the blisteringly beautiful U3 engine - I'd expect Cormack to be tweaking away at this to give some features that these "newer" engines don't have.
I think you're underestimating the power of the force that is id. It's a *new* engine by the guy who pretty much invented FPS as we know it today.
Why license something that's already been done? Isn't that taking a step backwards? There's always room for an id engine and given the advances that the CryEngine has undergone, alongside the blisteringly beautiful U3 engine - I'd expect Cormack to be tweaking away at this to give some features that these "newer" engines don't have.
KEEEEN! But, as long as it stayed 2d-ish. I could easily see it sucking gorilla nuts as a 3rd person platformer.
@dvddesign
I'm pretty confident Carmack is going to blow our minds again with this one. There are some pretty recent developments in the real-time graphics world that not even CryEngine2 has taken advantage of, so I think it will still be impressive.
Case in point: As awesome as CryEngine2's lighting engine and polygon count are, it still uses normal maps rather than subdivision surfaces, which have existed in CG for years and don't look like crap when viewed close up or at an angle. Neither does it have global illumination, which was previously thought impossible to do in real time. And this stuff was done by a tiny company no one's ever heard of. So rest assured, there's plenty Carmack can do to impress us here.
I'm pretty confident Carmack is going to blow our minds again with this one. There are some pretty recent developments in the real-time graphics world that not even CryEngine2 has taken advantage of, so I think it will still be impressive.
Case in point: As awesome as CryEngine2's lighting engine and polygon count are, it still uses normal maps rather than subdivision surfaces, which have existed in CG for years and don't look like crap when viewed close up or at an angle. Neither does it have global illumination, which was previously thought impossible to do in real time. And this stuff was done by a tiny company no one's ever heard of. So rest assured, there's plenty Carmack can do to impress us here.
wait people are still commenting on the main page?! Why aren't you all reading the ever-so-wonderfully written community blogs?
You guys (actually we), can laugh all you want at Doom design flaws, but you cant deny two things:
1.-Doom 3, was REALLY scary.(for an FPS)
2.-Without the doom 3 engines, engines such as the one in Halo 2, Splinter Cell 3, Unreal even Crysis just wouldnt have been possible.
According an old article I read about carmack's new engine, it will feature ultra realistic soft shadowing and self shadowing as well as advanced (very advanced) hair and soft body rendering, in the words of carmack:
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"Our latest engine make games look a little more like toy story, the new engine will make games look like Monsters Inc"
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(ps is an old comment, and Monsters Inc was pretty recent at the time)
I hope is a horror D&D RPG/action game thats exactly the kind of game Carmack has always wanted to do. (Quake was close to that but not quite)
Btw, you can save your pennies, in this day and age is almost certain the game will be almost immediately ported to consoles.
1.-Doom 3, was REALLY scary.(for an FPS)
2.-Without the doom 3 engines, engines such as the one in Halo 2, Splinter Cell 3, Unreal even Crysis just wouldnt have been possible.
According an old article I read about carmack's new engine, it will feature ultra realistic soft shadowing and self shadowing as well as advanced (very advanced) hair and soft body rendering, in the words of carmack:
[i]
"Our latest engine make games look a little more like toy story, the new engine will make games look like Monsters Inc"
[/i]
(ps is an old comment, and Monsters Inc was pretty recent at the time)
I hope is a horror D&D RPG/action game thats exactly the kind of game Carmack has always wanted to do. (Quake was close to that but not quite)
Btw, you can save your pennies, in this day and age is almost certain the game will be almost immediately ported to consoles.
Man I'd be all for a new Keen game, used to play those all the time when I was younger.
But I was very impressed with what he did with Doom 3, so a new engine could be even more amazing. It's a shame I won't be able to run it most likely...
But I was very impressed with what he did with Doom 3, so a new engine could be even more amazing. It's a shame I won't be able to run it most likely...
want i want to hear is this new project of his is duke nukem forever. {i'm making leaps and bounds in thought, but if anyone could keep it from failing miserably it is quickly beginning to look like he could do it.}
i think that would go down as the best news of this decade.
i think that would go down as the best news of this decade.
Always good news when Id is involved. And azrael is totally right, Doom 3 was the scarriest FPS i've ever played.
Well, whatever it is. I hope it has a better outcome than DOOM III or Quake IV. I love ID, I still love them for Quake II, though I will admit with the last two games, I was fairly disappointed. :(
out of all the games they've ever made Commander Keen is my most played. Bring him back! HE HAS PONG ON HIS WATCH!
AngelsDontBurn & Agent MOO:
Not fans of Quake 4? I know a few people slated when it came out, but I've never got that. It wasn't ground breaking in structure, sure but as a pretty epic, cinematic FPS, I thought it was a winner.
Not fans of Quake 4? I know a few people slated when it came out, but I've never got that. It wasn't ground breaking in structure, sure but as a pretty epic, cinematic FPS, I thought it was a winner.
Am I the only one that didn't think Doom3 looked that good? The engine really wasn't that efficient, and ID *certainly* didn't use it very well.
You all probably know what yur talking about. But i dont think ID will invest mega-time&money into somethin that cant compete. Imagine the next step beyond Crysis and U3.. since they are both sort of ready to release/build, and this is the first news on the new ID engine.. probably takes 5 years before it's on.
@Burnt Meatloaf:
I agree, I had Doom 3 and Half-Life 2 around the same time (thus my desktop had the same specs for both games) and Half-Life 2 always ran SOOO much smoother on the highest settings, yet Doom 3 always ran like complete shit on the LOWEST settings (which looked worse than Half-Life 2 on highest settings looked), and I always hated how non-scalable the Doom 3 engine was, from that experience. I think that any good 3D engine developer should make their engine scalable, so a larger number of people can enjoy a new PC game without multi thousand dollar upgrades. I think Valve succeeded in scalability, but id didn't. Here's hoping the next id engine will be scalable, even if it's looking like it'll be even WORSE than Doom 3.
I agree, I had Doom 3 and Half-Life 2 around the same time (thus my desktop had the same specs for both games) and Half-Life 2 always ran SOOO much smoother on the highest settings, yet Doom 3 always ran like complete shit on the LOWEST settings (which looked worse than Half-Life 2 on highest settings looked), and I always hated how non-scalable the Doom 3 engine was, from that experience. I think that any good 3D engine developer should make their engine scalable, so a larger number of people can enjoy a new PC game without multi thousand dollar upgrades. I think Valve succeeded in scalability, but id didn't. Here's hoping the next id engine will be scalable, even if it's looking like it'll be even WORSE than Doom 3.
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