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"I need to keep my mouth shut. [...] You start your own company and you don't have to work for that jerky boss any more. Not naming names."
Basically... "I need to keep my mouth shut, but I won't. F**k you, Knobby Nodick."
Basically... "I need to keep my mouth shut, but I won't. F**k you, Knobby Nodick."
To be fair, Schafer seems to come across as a dick whenever he opens his mouth. Not that I'm defending Kotick, of course.
Tim got scared because he realized his last two games flopped.
I'm really sad he didn't stick to his word, because he's actually a nice guy to talk to (had an interview with him). Not only that, but he meant what he said, and he's RIGHT.
I'm really sad he didn't stick to his word, because he's actually a nice guy to talk to (had an interview with him). Not only that, but he meant what he said, and he's RIGHT.
@ Magnalon:
I honestly didn't feel he had anyright to call the guy that since he never even met him personally.
He probably realized how stupid that was after thinking about who will publish his next flop.
I honestly didn't feel he had anyright to call the guy that since he never even met him personally.
He probably realized how stupid that was after thinking about who will publish his next flop.
@Toadofsky
If you're sole purpose in life is to make fun games for people (that's Tim Schafer), and someone in the industry literally says "I took all the fun out of making games", that's enough to blast someone. If Kotick had his bloodsucking corporate fat cat way, all the visionary talent would be wiped away in favor of cheap, over-satured untalented scabs.
Someone compared him to Simon Cowell. Basically he sucks all the life out of an industry, bleeds it for all its worth, and moves on, basically salting the Earth as he goes. Tim is a smart guy, and sees that Kotick is hurting the industry he loves so much, and is saddened by it.
How would you feel if you were talented professional singer, and found out Kei$ha was saying stuff like "auto-tune is the way to go: actual singing is overrated, and old news"; and stealing your record sales with that garbage? You speak out.
If you're sole purpose in life is to make fun games for people (that's Tim Schafer), and someone in the industry literally says "I took all the fun out of making games", that's enough to blast someone. If Kotick had his bloodsucking corporate fat cat way, all the visionary talent would be wiped away in favor of cheap, over-satured untalented scabs.
Someone compared him to Simon Cowell. Basically he sucks all the life out of an industry, bleeds it for all its worth, and moves on, basically salting the Earth as he goes. Tim is a smart guy, and sees that Kotick is hurting the industry he loves so much, and is saddened by it.
How would you feel if you were talented professional singer, and found out Kei$ha was saying stuff like "auto-tune is the way to go: actual singing is overrated, and old news"; and stealing your record sales with that garbage? You speak out.
Haha, what was he thinking. The fucking funds everything, can buy his way into your house with a loaded gun, and his way out of jail.
It's hard to fuck with a billionaire especially when he owns a major chunk of the industry you work in. I applauded him for his balls before, but apparently it was just his ignorance.
It's hard to fuck with a billionaire especially when he owns a major chunk of the industry you work in. I applauded him for his balls before, but apparently it was just his ignorance.
The fuck funds*
Also on another note I'm sure a lawsuit was waved in his face, whether frivolous or not it would have brought Schafer and his company to it's knees and he probably went so far as to BUY the damn company if it's public. That probably put Tim's balls in a pinch, and had him balling.
Also on another note I'm sure a lawsuit was waved in his face, whether frivolous or not it would have brought Schafer and his company to it's knees and he probably went so far as to BUY the damn company if it's public. That probably put Tim's balls in a pinch, and had him balling.
"Then it's like Empire Strikes Back - you walk in the room and 'holy shit Darth Vader's at the table.'"
Fuck man I hate when that happens to me.
@hardrock spiffy
I know this probably comes as a shock to you, but in many cases it's in people's best interests NOT to be an asshole. This is Tim Schafer realizing that, a bit too late.
Fuck man I hate when that happens to me.
@hardrock spiffy
I know this probably comes as a shock to you, but in many cases it's in people's best interests NOT to be an asshole. This is Tim Schafer realizing that, a bit too late.
Tim Schafer as been making games for years and knows the industry. When he says that Activision has a plague upon it caused by one greedy CEO I believe him. Also note that Activision put out the press release to cover for Bobby Kotick instead of Kotick defending himself directly that in it self just shows you what a coward he is at this point the best action Activision could take is to get rid of him.
The guy keeps dissing Kotick and that makes him a coward? No wonder Kotick owns so much of the industry. Most gamers are pre-packaged WoW players.
This is where Cockdick buys Schafers company and sacks him.
Hate the evil corporate boss man all you want, just don't let him KNOW you hate him.
Hate the evil corporate boss man all you want, just don't let him KNOW you hate him.
So he compared Boby Kotick to a guy who was emotionally depressed over losing his wife? I don't do any research on this guy so don't know, but has Kotick ever even had a girlfriend?
There's emotionally depressed, and then there's "Wholly fuck, you just blew up your daughter's home planet, now you fucked up".
it's okay tim, we all know he's a dick. even the people that defend him know he's a dick, they just don't like to piss him off.
@Bigmoose: You just called Psychonauts and OVERrated game. You are possibly the dumbest person I will see today.
Come on, guys, this is not a big deal. This is what regular people sound like when they don't have a PR guy looming over their shoulder, 24/7 and aren't necessarily used to giving big long interviews in a guarded way.
He off-handedly said that Kotick was a bit of a dick and now he's just saying that it probably wasn't his place to say that in hindsight, which I think is fair. He's just a person, albeit a person who has made some of my favourite games. This sort of talk is what happens when you hold regular people to a high level of scrutiny just for being 'on-record'
He off-handedly said that Kotick was a bit of a dick and now he's just saying that it probably wasn't his place to say that in hindsight, which I think is fair. He's just a person, albeit a person who has made some of my favourite games. This sort of talk is what happens when you hold regular people to a high level of scrutiny just for being 'on-record'
Schafers games are underrated Grim Fandango is still one of my favorites to this day and i'm sure many old school gamers will agree. Unlike a bunch of drones that buy COD year after year because of the name. COD MW 1&2 being the exception considering the talent behind them IW. Atleast EA has them developing games unrestricted by a greedy CEO and their next game will be nothing short of amazing.
The prick part was unnecessary and knowing Activision it could really hurt Tim. But this:
"latch onto something when it’s popular and then squeeze the life out of it and then move on to the next one", - this is exactly what Kotick is doing and what he's known for.
Activision can talk shit that Kotick really loves games, but dosen't have time on them, all they wan't, but I know, that a man who loves games and loves this medium will never do things Kotick and Activision does, never.
Kotick is a parasite, that sucks this industry dry, he sees games only as a way of making more money. Kotick is a pimp and games published by his pimp company are his bitches.
Bobby, if you'll ever come to russia, you'd better watch your back. Remember Limits of Control? I'll make it happen.
"latch onto something when it’s popular and then squeeze the life out of it and then move on to the next one", - this is exactly what Kotick is doing and what he's known for.
Activision can talk shit that Kotick really loves games, but dosen't have time on them, all they wan't, but I know, that a man who loves games and loves this medium will never do things Kotick and Activision does, never.
Kotick is a parasite, that sucks this industry dry, he sees games only as a way of making more money. Kotick is a pimp and games published by his pimp company are his bitches.
Bobby, if you'll ever come to russia, you'd better watch your back. Remember Limits of Control? I'll make it happen.
I'm really impressed about the bullshit some of you are writing. Especially "hardock spiffy". Are you even reading your shit? "Bigmoose85", next one, calling him overrated, wtf? He was just one of those guys who brought us some of the best adventures that are out there. Day of the Tentacle is just incredibly awesome.
Brutal Legend was not the best thing he made but when you think about the whole development cycle and that a friend of mine and me were talking about this game when it was still developed for the PS2(!) you can only guess how big of a clusterfuck they had going on with the publishers.
And if you read the quote carefully, he is just dissing Kotick more.
But it's okay. Just don't buy innovative games from guys who still care about games. Instead buy the next 3 CoD and get your subscription cause this is how gamers really rooooooll!!
Brutal Legend was not the best thing he made but when you think about the whole development cycle and that a friend of mine and me were talking about this game when it was still developed for the PS2(!) you can only guess how big of a clusterfuck they had going on with the publishers.
And if you read the quote carefully, he is just dissing Kotick more.
But it's okay. Just don't buy innovative games from guys who still care about games. Instead buy the next 3 CoD and get your subscription cause this is how gamers really rooooooll!!
@ Enzi,
Man, just give up on hardock spiffy. I have. The guy has literally never added anything to a conversation except dumbing it down.
Man, just give up on hardock spiffy. I have. The guy has literally never added anything to a conversation except dumbing it down.
Bobby Kotick and Activision are the a major part of the future of video games.
Deny it all you want, but the vast majority of gamers lap up the same re-cycled franchises over and over again, despite claiming they want "original IP's".
Possibly the above statement is a sweeping generalisation, but for the most part I find it sadly true. Gamers are not interested in new or original IP's.
Deny it all you want, but the vast majority of gamers lap up the same re-cycled franchises over and over again, despite claiming they want "original IP's".
Possibly the above statement is a sweeping generalisation, but for the most part I find it sadly true. Gamers are not interested in new or original IP's.
I don't understand the hate for Schafer right now, everyone was applausing him yesterday. And I don't think this was him backing down, it still has hints of subtle insinuations. Aside from that, it seems more like a genuine admission instead of PR speeches (Like what SurplusGamer said), or Kotick called him and threatened to sue, which I CERTAINLY would NOT put past him.
Also, I read the headline as "Tim Schafer calls Bobby Kotick 'a mistake'". That was a confusing one.
Also, I read the headline as "Tim Schafer calls Bobby Kotick 'a mistake'". That was a confusing one.
@ Wee SK
shit I want some new and original IP's not sequel after sequel at a $60 price tag eventhough its $30-15 at best. This generation of gamers are simply ignorant and close-minded. They're not willing to brake away from their safety bubble in gaming. Those gamers will lash at any game even if and when its better then the stuff they always play. I notice this when I see people play or when I play online and people lose to the better man they get extremely angry because the safety bubble was broken. It's sad eventhough a majority of gamers grew up in the 90's and through the 2000's they had a chance to play a lot of good quality games. Yet it seems like just started gaming in the past 4-5 years because they forget the roots and barrings of gaming today.
shit I want some new and original IP's not sequel after sequel at a $60 price tag eventhough its $30-15 at best. This generation of gamers are simply ignorant and close-minded. They're not willing to brake away from their safety bubble in gaming. Those gamers will lash at any game even if and when its better then the stuff they always play. I notice this when I see people play or when I play online and people lose to the better man they get extremely angry because the safety bubble was broken. It's sad eventhough a majority of gamers grew up in the 90's and through the 2000's they had a chance to play a lot of good quality games. Yet it seems like just started gaming in the past 4-5 years because they forget the roots and barrings of gaming today.
Schafer still needs third party publishing. Most of the execs bounce back and forth between EA/Activision/Microsoft games division etc.
Kotick's probably tight with many of the folks at EA.
That said, I'm not a fan of Kotick's strategy of over-saturating the market. He takes the best games they have to offer and beats them into the ground until gamers no longer can stand to look at them.
Sure, it works short-term (which I'm sure is all Kotick cares about), but it lacks sustainability as he chokes the life out of his best franchises one by one.
GET YOUR KOTICK OUT OF MY GAMING!!!
Kotick's probably tight with many of the folks at EA.
That said, I'm not a fan of Kotick's strategy of over-saturating the market. He takes the best games they have to offer and beats them into the ground until gamers no longer can stand to look at them.
Sure, it works short-term (which I'm sure is all Kotick cares about), but it lacks sustainability as he chokes the life out of his best franchises one by one.
GET YOUR KOTICK OUT OF MY GAMING!!!
@Conan
I think what he means by "small industry," is that there are few big name 3rd party publishers. I mean you really only have EA, Activision, and Ubisoft. All other 3rd part publishers aren't that big. It wasn't an insult, it was just his way of putting that news gets around fast.
As for this, I do find it funny that he says he should have said it, but never takes his words back.
I think what he means by "small industry," is that there are few big name 3rd party publishers. I mean you really only have EA, Activision, and Ubisoft. All other 3rd part publishers aren't that big. It wasn't an insult, it was just his way of putting that news gets around fast.
As for this, I do find it funny that he says he should have said it, but never takes his words back.
Publicly dissing Darth Vader is likely to get you force-choked while you are taking a dump in a gay strip club....just saying.
Particularly in Schafer's case, his, um, "critique" of Bobby Kotick is understandable, and I think most people can see that. Some things just need to be said. Schafer will out-last Kotick.
Not that it really dampens the validity of Tim's arguments, but he reminds me of a pot, and Bobby Kotick reminds me of a kettle.
@hardock spiffy
Backtracted? What were you reading? He didn't backtrack in the slightest. In fact, he threw in a few more negative comparisons. All he said was that he needs to be more careful with his public comments, which is true for anyone in ANY business.
Backtracted? What were you reading? He didn't backtrack in the slightest. In fact, he threw in a few more negative comparisons. All he said was that he needs to be more careful with his public comments, which is true for anyone in ANY business.
@ Magnalon:
And u don't think that I take the fun out of games was taken out of context, like it was sarcasm?
I don't think Schafer is a bad guy, but I don't consider him the greatest game designer. But if he expects to get funding for his "creative vision", he needs to learn when to keep his mouth shut.
And u don't think that I take the fun out of games was taken out of context, like it was sarcasm?
I don't think Schafer is a bad guy, but I don't consider him the greatest game designer. But if he expects to get funding for his "creative vision", he needs to learn when to keep his mouth shut.
@conan
He's talking from an internal perspective. Not a monetary one. A lot of people know the same people an so on. Burning bridges can bite you in the ass.
Jesus a lot of you people in here need to relax he doesn't even apologize he just says maybe he should watch what he puts out there which makes sense. How is comparing Kotick to Vader an apology?
He's talking from an internal perspective. Not a monetary one. A lot of people know the same people an so on. Burning bridges can bite you in the ass.
Jesus a lot of you people in here need to relax he doesn't even apologize he just says maybe he should watch what he puts out there which makes sense. How is comparing Kotick to Vader an apology?
Sounds like Tim would rather be working for EA as well. It's amazing how a couple years ago before Kotick popped his trolly head above the bridge that EA was the bane of the gaming industry. It just makes you wonder how much of a douche Kotick really is.
TimmyS does indeed need to keep his mouth shut. He's spouted nothing but bullshit since before Brutal Legend was released.
Does this mean that every time from now on that Kotick manages to be the header for a news story, Darth Vader's head will be shopped on him? Please say yes.
Hahah. "It was a mistake to call him a total prick. What I meant to say is that he's an evil lord of an empire trying to take over the galaxy."
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