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I guess it's equally stupid of me as a gamer to expect a sequel to every game I like but... goddammit. I really did want another Space Marine.
I had fun with this game, which is saying a lot considering I struggle to have fun with any shooter these days (19 year old me would have laughed at the idea).
Thats the go big or go home mentality for ya. Publishers don't seem to want to allow devs to swing the bat unless they swing for the fences. Most of the time you pop out to center field, and its on to the next guy to give it a shot.
Thats the go big or go home mentality for ya. Publishers don't seem to want to allow devs to swing the bat unless they swing for the fences. Most of the time you pop out to center field, and its on to the next guy to give it a shot.
Noooo, I really wanted to know what happened to Titus, and hopefully make him wear Terminator armour in the sequel.
No game did there ending worse than Psi-ops. Shit Ended in a straight cliffhanger and we are never going to get a sequel now.
Now that counting your chickens before they hatch.
Now that counting your chickens before they hatch.
So even though a sequel might not be as costly, since I thought the game's art assets were lovely so Relic wouldn't be starting from scratch, it still might get left hanging. Lovely.
Too bad, as Space Marine was the type of game that felt like it would benefit greatly from a sequel that simply expanded on the mechanics and level variety.
Unfortunately, THQ have themselves to blame for making the game so formulaic and repetitive. There was a good foundation, but the endless room clearing, relying on the same melee combos over and over just wasn't enough to make for a standout game in this crowded market.
Unfortunately, THQ have themselves to blame for making the game so formulaic and repetitive. There was a good foundation, but the endless room clearing, relying on the same melee combos over and over just wasn't enough to make for a standout game in this crowded market.
If a publisher doesn't want a sequel that's their call, but citing a class in an MMO as a consolation is kind of retarded.
For those thinking the ending is a Grey Knight hook, probably not. As Grey Knights recruiting processes are even stricter than Space Marine processes. If Titus would be one, he'd be one already. Chances are he becomes a Librarian or something.
Well could he have meant no sequel until AFTER DMO? I wholly support working on one game at a time, but Jims own post yesterday stated that 90% of the work was being done by another team, and Relic was only doing art and animation.
Squishy3 is right, Grey Knights are all psykers. Titus would not have made Captain without the Ultramarine's librarians noticing he is a psyker. Plus, different geneseed, I don't think they can be swapped-and-switched... The direction Space Marine was going in made it seem like he was more of a pariah than a psyker also.
Anyhow, I'd like to see a sequel. I enjoyed Space Marine a shit tonne, its Relic getting the 40K universe right again, as they did with Dawn of War. I enjoyed it more than Gears of War 3.
Anyhow, I'd like to see a sequel. I enjoyed Space Marine a shit tonne, its Relic getting the 40K universe right again, as they did with Dawn of War. I enjoyed it more than Gears of War 3.
The ending and its sequel hook isn't all that bad when you really think about it. It means there COULD be more one day. Whats bad is that they're willing to drop what could be a really great series for an MMO.
I love MMO's, been playing them for over a decade, but its a misstep to let something as good as Space Marine rot for one. They'd have to make some serious money off of it to warrant that kind of choice.
@Cryotek
Yeah, talk about not finishing up your story. It was absolutely criminal how T:SCC ended.
I love MMO's, been playing them for over a decade, but its a misstep to let something as good as Space Marine rot for one. They'd have to make some serious money off of it to warrant that kind of choice.
@Cryotek
Yeah, talk about not finishing up your story. It was absolutely criminal how T:SCC ended.
I think the ending stood pretty well as a standalone. Even if there isn't an arc resolution, I think it capped the theme very well (The value of a Marine's deviations from the codex). Any details about Titus himself may feel like pure Deus Ex Machina in light of this, I like the suggestion that there's a consequence for certain flavors of bad assery in that universe.
I would DEFINITELY go all in for more Space Marine games though. Its one of the few games I have that are really fine through and through, both Single Player and Multiplayer.
The MMO sounds especially cool though. The details imply some spiritual overlap, at least in Space Marine mechanics and gameplay ideas. Maybe they can find a way to close/continue Titus's ark there.
I would DEFINITELY go all in for more Space Marine games though. Its one of the few games I have that are really fine through and through, both Single Player and Multiplayer.
The MMO sounds especially cool though. The details imply some spiritual overlap, at least in Space Marine mechanics and gameplay ideas. Maybe they can find a way to close/continue Titus's ark there.
ive yet to buy SM, im still mulling over buying the 360 version or waiting longer for the PC version after I save the cash for a new GFX card.
As for Relic spending all their time making a MMO doesnt really sit with me as ive no intrest in playing such timesinks, ild much rather have them get to making Homeworld 3
As for Relic spending all their time making a MMO doesnt really sit with me as ive no intrest in playing such timesinks, ild much rather have them get to making Homeworld 3
I love Relic and Warhammer, but fuck an MMO. Sorry I want to buy a game outright, not pay $15 every month to play it.
So so sad that everybody is jumping on the World of Warcraft bandwagon. Especially now that they are devoting all their time into it. Are we even getting Dawn of War 3?
So so sad that everybody is jumping on the World of Warcraft bandwagon. Especially now that they are devoting all their time into it. Are we even getting Dawn of War 3?
Makes me think of TV shows getting canned without a proper ending. All it really does it serve to piss off your loyal fans. Why the hell should I ever invest in another one of your series if you aren't going to bother to wrap it up properly?
As if this industry wasn't doing enough to piss people off these days with online passes, overpriced DLC, unfinished buggy software, over-saturation of multiplayer and just the general dumbing down. Now we have devs who can't even provide proper endings to a successful title.
As if this industry wasn't doing enough to piss people off these days with online passes, overpriced DLC, unfinished buggy software, over-saturation of multiplayer and just the general dumbing down. Now we have devs who can't even provide proper endings to a successful title.
just be thankfull the story isnt as bad the Legacy of Kain Soul Reaver series.
A fantastic storyline for a video game but the episodic cliffhanger they have is the pits
A fantastic storyline for a video game but the episodic cliffhanger they have is the pits
Awww. Well at least the MMO will be fun, right? OH AND DAWN OF WAR 3! YEAAAAAAA. And then there's gonna be other games, they know 40K prints money. That's why they charge an arm and a leg on the nicely sculpted plastic models.
I can understand how they won't have time for a sequel with a brand new engine & all but maybe they could turn out an expansion. I'd be thrilled with more story content, a few new MP maps & possibly a new class or two for the MP.
Even though I'm not very satisfied with some blend environments, I had fun and was expecting a sequel. Since there's nothing I could do about it, I'll just wait for it until they have enough space for Space Marines 2.
Or at least at some campaign or missions based on the fate of Titus on other WH 40k games.
Or at least at some campaign or missions based on the fate of Titus on other WH 40k games.
Would love to see another game where Titus rocks some lightning claws and terminator armor. Maybe fight some tyranids. That would be a hoot.
I believe the "sequel hooks" at the end of games are often left there as a way to entice the public to literally ask for a sequel.
Unfortunately, this kind of stuff DOES work sometimes... But ultimately I feel like the most successful game series start off assuming they need to put their all into the game at hand and not hold back some punches for a sequel or DLC.
As for MMOs, I really think they did their homework on what made WoW so successful from the outset: An established universe that people ALREADY have an encyclopedic knowledge of. A popular lead-in game (As Warcraft 3 was for WoW.)
I think it can do well if it's done properly... and by that I mean being actually fun to play.
Unfortunately, this kind of stuff DOES work sometimes... But ultimately I feel like the most successful game series start off assuming they need to put their all into the game at hand and not hold back some punches for a sequel or DLC.
As for MMOs, I really think they did their homework on what made WoW so successful from the outset: An established universe that people ALREADY have an encyclopedic knowledge of. A popular lead-in game (As Warcraft 3 was for WoW.)
I think it can do well if it's done properly... and by that I mean being actually fun to play.
Wtf is it with THQ and all their awful decisions all of a sudden? At the beginning of the year they were optimistic and promising to put more time into their games to make them better, now they cut Red Faction, laid off shitloads of people and not wanting to do sequels to anything unless it breaks some stupid record, which none of their games are going to do to be honest.
very unfortunate. space marine is a very good game with flashes of brilliance. Given a bit more time it could have stepped into the presumably vacated gears of war spot quite nicely.
Few Malleus Inquisitors would waste a tainted space marine unless they thought he was beyond any hope of being controlled. Hereticus would just kill him. Xenos would probably trade him to the Malleus for favors.
I think what happens to Titus is he gets an offer he can't refuse from the Ordo Malleus to be a bodyguard/heavy for an inquisitor. He will probably be:
1.) branded with sigils and holy ecclesiarchy literature that contain or at least reduces and malign influence the potential taint within him,
2.) regularly undergo grueling examinations by a sanctioned psyker, possibly the inquisitor himself,
3.) possibly be accompanied by a null/pariah-gene who can shut him down,
4.) have a much enhanced level of mental conditioning applied to him
5.) be classified as a bound daemon
6.) Be made to understand that he may be turned into a servitor cyborg if he does not obey the inquisitor satisfactorily
7.) Be used in mostly suicide missions and treated as an expendable
8.) and maybe even have an explosive collar put on so they can remotely blow up his head if he sprouts claws or horns and starts saying something that sounds demonic or seemingly falls under the control of a heretic, rogue psyker, witch, cultist, daemon, or whatever.
I think what happens to Titus is he gets an offer he can't refuse from the Ordo Malleus to be a bodyguard/heavy for an inquisitor. He will probably be:
1.) branded with sigils and holy ecclesiarchy literature that contain or at least reduces and malign influence the potential taint within him,
2.) regularly undergo grueling examinations by a sanctioned psyker, possibly the inquisitor himself,
3.) possibly be accompanied by a null/pariah-gene who can shut him down,
4.) have a much enhanced level of mental conditioning applied to him
5.) be classified as a bound daemon
6.) Be made to understand that he may be turned into a servitor cyborg if he does not obey the inquisitor satisfactorily
7.) Be used in mostly suicide missions and treated as an expendable
8.) and maybe even have an explosive collar put on so they can remotely blow up his head if he sprouts claws or horns and starts saying something that sounds demonic or seemingly falls under the control of a heretic, rogue psyker, witch, cultist, daemon, or whatever.
" I can understand how they won't have time for a sequel with a brand new engine & all but maybe they could turn out an expansion. I'd be thrilled with more story content, a few new MP maps & possibly a new class or two for the MP."
Well Vigil is doing the MMO (and the Darksiders sequel) while Relic did 40K: Space Marine using the Darksiders engine. I suspect that what is meant by 'no room for a SM sequel' is that the 40K MMO will be action based and probably too similar to a Space Marine sequel to justify having both games on the market at the same time.
Well Vigil is doing the MMO (and the Darksiders sequel) while Relic did 40K: Space Marine using the Darksiders engine. I suspect that what is meant by 'no room for a SM sequel' is that the 40K MMO will be action based and probably too similar to a Space Marine sequel to justify having both games on the market at the same time.
Sequel would be nice but its not the end of the world for me. Now is THQ would get THEIR ASS IN GEAR ON THE MULTIPLAYER FOR ONLIVE! I might not be as pissed off. Its been almost two months, no Multiplayer. The mail reason I got the game.
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