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That really sucks, THQ has been putting out some quality games over the past few years now, I hope they can break even.
Reviewers and players reviewers are different, in my opinion. I enjoy this site very much but I will question any review on any website who is also getting paid by various publishers to advertise games on that same site. I realize its just business, but random people don't really have anything to gain/lose by praising/criticizing a game.
If it was such a big important title why give it to the Frontlines people, there is some talent there but in practice it's left much to be desired. Also why push it out now. Understandably the fiscal year is almost up but it's better to wait and cook a product to must have status than to shove it out all covered in feces and shame and fail in the market filled with so much better crap.
Kind of like Dragon Age 2, while not a worse offender feels like it got pushed out the door instead of allowing time to actually develop more than 2 dungeon patterns and glitches.
Kind of like Dragon Age 2, while not a worse offender feels like it got pushed out the door instead of allowing time to actually develop more than 2 dungeon patterns and glitches.
Maybe I was blinded by the fact that North Koreans play a role in this game, just like in Crysis (I really loved it).
I don't know what to expect once my VoF edition arrives on Friday.
But since I've never played CoD I might enjoy it.
I don't know what to expect once my VoF edition arrives on Friday.
But since I've never played CoD I might enjoy it.
I haven't really played enough of the single player campaign to make a solid decision on where I think this games score should be but I can say that the multi-player alone is well worth the price of admission.
Maybe it's because I'm burnt out on COD or maybe because the multi-player in Homefront is actually quite good and refreshing. Either way I am not disappointed in my purchase and I am thoroughly enjoy the game so far.
Would suck if this fails hard, although I have a feeling that they may hit that 2 mil mark soon enough...I know my local Gamestop was saying yesterday that if they kept selling the game at the pace that they were they would soon be sold out.
Maybe it's because I'm burnt out on COD or maybe because the multi-player in Homefront is actually quite good and refreshing. Either way I am not disappointed in my purchase and I am thoroughly enjoy the game so far.
Would suck if this fails hard, although I have a feeling that they may hit that 2 mil mark soon enough...I know my local Gamestop was saying yesterday that if they kept selling the game at the pace that they were they would soon be sold out.
I was going to buy it after animation class yesterday but after reading the review for it on this site istead I payed of super street fight 4 3d for my 3ds and I preordered duke nukem forever balls of steel edition. I will gamefly this game instead.
All you have to do is watch some gameplay, and to me it looks really good. They mixed in a bunch of different types of games into one but it looks fresh.Though for as short as the campaign is I may just wait till it's cheaper.
@Jim
I don't understand the embargo thing. Can you explain that to us a bit? Did the reviewers decide to hold back their reviews for some reason or were they not given an early review copy or what? What difference does it make, and why would it affect scores?
I don't understand the embargo thing. Can you explain that to us a bit? Did the reviewers decide to hold back their reviews for some reason or were they not given an early review copy or what? What difference does it make, and why would it affect scores?
I hope you're happy destructoid, you killed THQ! Now who is gonna rehash the same WWE game every year, who, huh?
So because I review games I am no longer considered a "player" of games? Interesting. But, it's unfortunate about Homefront. The story has promise. Perhaps they should have spent more time on the gameplay, which I understand to be most people's biggest issue.
When you make a mediocre and irrelevant shooter that tries so desperately to be Call of Duty that tends to happen.
@Tristrix: I'm not sure but I think some (all?) publishers allow reviewers to publish the review before the game is out but only if they give the game a good score.
@~JnRx Teh Jokester~
I guess that's why you mow down dozens of enemies but are expected to feel angry when the Koreans murder some Americans.
Basically CoD gameplay in a relatively interesting storyline that had potential.
Plus, like CoD, the multiplayer is the better designed aspect.
I guess that's why you mow down dozens of enemies but are expected to feel angry when the Koreans murder some Americans.
Basically CoD gameplay in a relatively interesting storyline that had potential.
Plus, like CoD, the multiplayer is the better designed aspect.
Call me troll, but I'm with Astalano on this one. For all of you hardcore FPS gamers, you'll maybe notice the slightlies differences between each game, but for the rest of the world, Homefront looks and plays like any modern realistic shooter like CoD or MOH. The story premise of the game I tought it was amazing, including his viral campaing, and why we should need another MP shooter game like that when we have CoD, MOH, Mag and a large etc.
Oh come on. There are more than enough sites out there who get paid for reviews. I'm not saying that dtoid is one of them (that would be pretty stupid) but often you'll see a completely different score from actual players than from reviewers.
Now what I really think is stupid are the 10 and 0 reviews. You don't have 10 numbers to make a binary review if you like it or don't like it. With that said I'm happy that there are still honest reviewers out there who can articulate why a game is good or bad and not give scores of 0 or 10.
Dtoids review is harsh compared to a bland CoD review but it only says that the game is 'average'. Reviews scores got a little out of control. Publishers and investors think that a review score below 8.0 (or something like that) is a disaster. Personally I don't give a shit about review scores. I value the opinion of friends but it all comes down to personal taste and that tends to be pretty different most of the time. Would be interesting how many only buy a game if it gets good scores. From what I can tell the 'sheeps' are way more than those who can rate a product and decide for them-self.
Now what I really think is stupid are the 10 and 0 reviews. You don't have 10 numbers to make a binary review if you like it or don't like it. With that said I'm happy that there are still honest reviewers out there who can articulate why a game is good or bad and not give scores of 0 or 10.
Dtoids review is harsh compared to a bland CoD review but it only says that the game is 'average'. Reviews scores got a little out of control. Publishers and investors think that a review score below 8.0 (or something like that) is a disaster. Personally I don't give a shit about review scores. I value the opinion of friends but it all comes down to personal taste and that tends to be pretty different most of the time. Would be interesting how many only buy a game if it gets good scores. From what I can tell the 'sheeps' are way more than those who can rate a product and decide for them-self.
Been playing the game. Its not bad but it does have its issues. Haven't delved into the multiplayer yet.
This really sucks for THQ though. Its kinda shitty when reviews of a game lower your stock value.
This really sucks for THQ though. Its kinda shitty when reviews of a game lower your stock value.
Yeah I love the story behind Homefront, but I don't see myself buying it anytime soon. It just looks too plain compared to just about any of the big name shooters available on any system. And that's the problem with a lot of THQ games. There's some fun to be had, but they aren't standouts. Bargin bin buys, or rentals only. How can I buy this when I still have to buy KZ3?
I don't think they should've banked on this one quite so much. The market for this kind of title is so damn saturated. It never really caught my attention. Still, sounds like it's a decent romp; I bet they'll hit their 2 mil mark eventually.
"THQ's said it needs to shift two million copies of Homefront in order to break even, so this is a seriously big deal to the company. If Homefront flops, it could be a disaster for a publisher that has been doing great work recently."
With a short single-player campaign and solid yet unspectacular graphics, where exactly did an apparently astronomical budget (as evidenced by needing to move two million units) go to? Selling a million is usually given as a benchmark for a successful game, and here THQ is claiming it's needs double that just to come even.
MP is often cheaper to develop than SP. Less in the way of scripting/production (voice acting, cut-scenes, etc.) that it takes to tell a SP narrative. Maybe overhead in server maintenance is high, I don't know. Graphics are another big expense, but most everything I've seen states that Homefront isn't exactly AAA bleeding edge. If anything you'd think this was cheaper to produce than your standard big IP AAA blockbuster by a good margin.
With a short single-player campaign and solid yet unspectacular graphics, where exactly did an apparently astronomical budget (as evidenced by needing to move two million units) go to? Selling a million is usually given as a benchmark for a successful game, and here THQ is claiming it's needs double that just to come even.
MP is often cheaper to develop than SP. Less in the way of scripting/production (voice acting, cut-scenes, etc.) that it takes to tell a SP narrative. Maybe overhead in server maintenance is high, I don't know. Graphics are another big expense, but most everything I've seen states that Homefront isn't exactly AAA bleeding edge. If anything you'd think this was cheaper to produce than your standard big IP AAA blockbuster by a good margin.
I played Homefront a bit last night. I dont think the story is that horrible, it's still intriguing enough and it kept me coming back to playing it more. For multiplayer, I only got one round in due to them not having enough dedicated servers going but even that was really fun. I feel like I'm having deja vu with this game though as everyone said the same stuff about Metro 2033 and I liked that game too.
"Metacritic's user reviews range from many tens to many zeros."
Like every other game on Metacritic! Seriously, user reviews are such a waste of time.
On topic: too bad. I hate to hear news like this, as people worked hard on the game and I'd rather see them succeed :(
Like every other game on Metacritic! Seriously, user reviews are such a waste of time.
On topic: too bad. I hate to hear news like this, as people worked hard on the game and I'd rather see them succeed :(
I'm looking for supporting THQ a little. It's not that the game is awesome nor bad, but I know THQ can do better and I don't want the company to die like Hudson did :(
I bet they end up giving it away with purchase of the new Red faction or Saints row 3. Like they did with Darksiders.
Any time you have an embargo on reviews it's usually a telltale sign that the studio knows they have a mediocre product and as such will receive a dearth of reviews reflecting that--otherwise why wouldn't you want people to talk about your product as much as possible in advance?
Because they'll lose that crucial first-week impulse buyer market from cancelled reservations, that's why.
It's the same idea for bad movies--only what happens there is a studio won't hold pre-screenings for critics, a sure-fire signal it's a stinker, leaving them to review the film on the day of release and missing that crucial Friday morning paper to warn readers away from it. Fortunately with the advent of the Internet that can make up for lost ground that same day with a morning show and have it up by midday.
Bottom line--I never buy in advance without doing my homework first, and even then the only one I trust with a solid product is Kojima.
Because they'll lose that crucial first-week impulse buyer market from cancelled reservations, that's why.
It's the same idea for bad movies--only what happens there is a studio won't hold pre-screenings for critics, a sure-fire signal it's a stinker, leaving them to review the film on the day of release and missing that crucial Friday morning paper to warn readers away from it. Fortunately with the advent of the Internet that can make up for lost ground that same day with a morning show and have it up by midday.
Bottom line--I never buy in advance without doing my homework first, and even then the only one I trust with a solid product is Kojima.
Any time you have an embargo on reviews it's usually a telltale sign that the studio knows they have a mediocre product and as such will receive a dearth of reviews reflecting that--otherwise why wouldn't you want people to talk about your product as much as possible in advance?
Because they'll lose that crucial first-week impulse buyer market from cancelled reservations, that's why.
It's the same idea for bad movies--only what happens there is a studio won't hold pre-screenings for critics, a sure-fire signal it's a stinker, leaving them to review the film on the day of release and missing that crucial Friday morning paper to warn readers away from it. Fortunately with the advent of the Internet that can make up for lost ground that same day with a morning show and have it up by midday.
Bottom line--I never buy in advance without doing my homework first, and even then the only one I trust with a solid product is Kojima.
Because they'll lose that crucial first-week impulse buyer market from cancelled reservations, that's why.
It's the same idea for bad movies--only what happens there is a studio won't hold pre-screenings for critics, a sure-fire signal it's a stinker, leaving them to review the film on the day of release and missing that crucial Friday morning paper to warn readers away from it. Fortunately with the advent of the Internet that can make up for lost ground that same day with a morning show and have it up by midday.
Bottom line--I never buy in advance without doing my homework first, and even then the only one I trust with a solid product is Kojima.
I think one of the big things hurting publishers right now is gonna be the economy and gas prices. I'd love to get my hands on Homefront, despite the reviews, but I just can't swing it right now. But for some people in my situation, a mediocre review will scare off a sale altogether bc when you get one new release a month, you want it to be solid.
I understand homefront isn't a great game, but I'm not sure if nick would be the best to give the review to as I have personally heard him say he hates FPSs. And heard him trash CoD games. You should give him the god of war clones and music games and prolly let someone less objective on the genre handle Homefront.
@Solid Squirrel:
That's not entirely true. Embargoes on their own have no indication of quality, as many well received titles have them. The date of the embargo is the important element. You only need to be wary if the embargo ends on release day. That may be an indication publishers are trying to stem to tide of bad reviews until after gamers have had their purchase decision. However, the very worst is when copies of a game aren't sent to reviewers until release day.
That's not entirely true. Embargoes on their own have no indication of quality, as many well received titles have them. The date of the embargo is the important element. You only need to be wary if the embargo ends on release day. That may be an indication publishers are trying to stem to tide of bad reviews until after gamers have had their purchase decision. However, the very worst is when copies of a game aren't sent to reviewers until release day.
Well I just picked up 1500 shares of THQI stock at $4.49 each. Selloffs like this can be great opportunities. I got into the stock market last June with BP stock and have been making a killing on depressed stocks in general. That being said, I may just pick up Homefront, even though it was never really on my radar. I honestly don't give a rat's ass about most reviews. I like the info, but scores are pretty meaningless. Some of the most fun I've ever had have been with "mediocre" games like Prototype, Darksiders, etc. I honestly find alot of the higher reviewed games to be "meh". I picked up a PS3 last year because I didn't want to miss out on all the high scoring exclusives like Killzone 2, Infamous, Little Big Planet, and Resistance. I honestly though all those games sucked (well, that's harsh... underwhelming). Except for Uncharted (loved the first, second one was great) I didn't find myself enjoying these AAA games. Sometimes a game is great just because it is fun, not necessarily well made....
I'm pretty sure this doesn't have too much to do with Homefront, and more to do with the fact that the market this past week has been pretty poor anyways. Especially within the tech industry. The markets opened down for the past 5 days at least (if not more).
i didn't buy homefront because i did not want to support their use of the online pass. let them know.
also, 2 mill? lol good luck
also, 2 mill? lol good luck
it's okay they got Red Faction coming out soon can't wait for that made by a competent dev. Plus, hopefully we'll be able to see more on Saints Row and Darksiders 2 all of those have been proven to me that they are awesome games and the dev working on it. I should have looked into Kaos making Homefront before I bought for shame on me.
The Game has been nice to me so far. i completely argree with the mediocracy of the campaign, but it was pretty memorable to say the least. Course, the multiplayer is awesome.
Fuck all yall.
Fuck all yall.
Hmm... not quite sure how I feel about this
On one hand it's a good thing that reviews dictate purchases. Meaning games reviewed with a 8, 9 or 10s get lots of attention so the best games are typically selling well, but on another it's a bad thing because people are starting to not think for themselves and letting 7 and below games slip through the cracks, and some of my all time favorite games (Fragile Dreams, the Evil Dead games),got less then stellar reviews.
I think they'll be fine though didn't they break their company pre-order record or something?
On one hand it's a good thing that reviews dictate purchases. Meaning games reviewed with a 8, 9 or 10s get lots of attention so the best games are typically selling well, but on another it's a bad thing because people are starting to not think for themselves and letting 7 and below games slip through the cracks, and some of my all time favorite games (Fragile Dreams, the Evil Dead games),got less then stellar reviews.
I think they'll be fine though didn't they break their company pre-order record or something?
i heard KAOS is already in the plans to be shut down.
I bought the game for PC and it came with a free Metro 2033, Homefront and Metro 2033 for pretty much $25 each? im very happy with the purchase even if Homefront is just a run of the mill shooter
I bought the game for PC and it came with a free Metro 2033, Homefront and Metro 2033 for pretty much $25 each? im very happy with the purchase even if Homefront is just a run of the mill shooter
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