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Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaap. THQ, if you had bothered to ask me if UFC Personal Trainer and Barbie Jet would sell, I would have told you "no" and saved you tons of money.
I haven't tried Guerilla yet. Maybe this is the moment when I do?
I'm starting to think Volition is working on their Saints Row series more.
I'm starting to think Volition is working on their Saints Row series more.
THQs lineup was pretty crap earlier this year. Hopefully Space Marine, Darksiders 2, and Saints Row 3 make up for it.
As for red faction IMO the franchise took a hit with guerilla and went even further down thanks to Armageddon. I won't be surprised to see red faction return, but back in it's FPS Form. RF1 and 2 were the best ones. RF2 did have a weak campaign but honestly had a very very strong MP component. One of my favorites from last gen.
It's just a Shame the series has to take a break on such a Meh game like armaggedeon.
At least it didn't suffer the same fate as Dino crisis. End on a absolutely terrible game and then never mention it again. Then forget the series ever existed
As for red faction IMO the franchise took a hit with guerilla and went even further down thanks to Armageddon. I won't be surprised to see red faction return, but back in it's FPS Form. RF1 and 2 were the best ones. RF2 did have a weak campaign but honestly had a very very strong MP component. One of my favorites from last gen.
It's just a Shame the series has to take a break on such a Meh game like armaggedeon.
At least it didn't suffer the same fate as Dino crisis. End on a absolutely terrible game and then never mention it again. Then forget the series ever existed
Called it.
Armageddon was actually a good game, but people ignored it because it wasn't a sandbox game.
Armageddon was actually a good game, but people ignored it because it wasn't a sandbox game.
"Given that that title, now in two successive versions, has just found a niche, we do not intend to carry forward with that franchise in any meaningful way,"
This is an awful, if not honest, statement that says a lot about what happened to gaming this generation. It is one thing to use crummy business models to kill niches off, and its another to imply the concept of a niche altogether is unacceptable in the gaming industry.
So, what he is saying is that they took the "niche" success of Armageddon (I use it loosely, as a third person shooter the likes of Armageddon is niche), and wanted to build a mainstream game out of it. Then, when this blatant and ridiculous mainstreaming fails, suddenly the whole thing was niche and therefor no longer worth pursuing. This is such a massive logic fail that I'm pretty sure I can hear brain cells dying.
Publishers are hamstringing themselves, and the more they put all their eggs into the mainstream market, the more "niche" formerly mainstream games become. The industry cant afford to diversify its product, and the more money they are forced to pour into broad appeal type games, the larger the bubble grows.
This is an awful, if not honest, statement that says a lot about what happened to gaming this generation. It is one thing to use crummy business models to kill niches off, and its another to imply the concept of a niche altogether is unacceptable in the gaming industry.
So, what he is saying is that they took the "niche" success of Armageddon (I use it loosely, as a third person shooter the likes of Armageddon is niche), and wanted to build a mainstream game out of it. Then, when this blatant and ridiculous mainstreaming fails, suddenly the whole thing was niche and therefor no longer worth pursuing. This is such a massive logic fail that I'm pretty sure I can hear brain cells dying.
Publishers are hamstringing themselves, and the more they put all their eggs into the mainstream market, the more "niche" formerly mainstream games become. The industry cant afford to diversify its product, and the more money they are forced to pour into broad appeal type games, the larger the bubble grows.
1. Make red faction guerrilla.
2.Remove everything that made it fun.
3.Add things that make it even less fun.
4. No profit.
2.Remove everything that made it fun.
3.Add things that make it even less fun.
4. No profit.
I liked destroying buildings in that earlier Red Faction game but the story and all that kinda got in the way of me destroying buildings with a sledgehammer.
The series just took such a dive after the first game. It doesn't really help that Mars is a brutally uninteresting setting without the resistance theme. If they'd had set up one of the current-gen games to be going after the mining corporation back on Earth with a nice colourful setting, Mercenaries-like factions and the same emphasis on environmental destruction - I'd have been quite interested.
The last Red Faction game i liked was 2, it was a fast paced and fun shooter! I had a lot of fun with the splitscreen multiplayer. I didn't like Guerilla, so i didn't buy Armageddon!
What about De Blob, THQ?
They seemed to have big plans for that franchise after the success of the first game on the Wii. With the sequel, they went multiplatform and had an animated series planned with SyFy Kids. Seemed like they had high hopes for the series.
But when De Blob 2 finally released, they had shipped limited quantities, they had no marketing surrounding it and the animated series was never heard from after the initial announcement. Since Febuary, I haven't heard THQ say a single word about anything De Blob related. It's like the games never even existed. Even now, in their first quarter finical report; nothing.
At least they respected the Red Faction franchise enough to tell fans that it was dead.
They seemed to have big plans for that franchise after the success of the first game on the Wii. With the sequel, they went multiplatform and had an animated series planned with SyFy Kids. Seemed like they had high hopes for the series.
But when De Blob 2 finally released, they had shipped limited quantities, they had no marketing surrounding it and the animated series was never heard from after the initial announcement. Since Febuary, I haven't heard THQ say a single word about anything De Blob related. It's like the games never even existed. Even now, in their first quarter finical report; nothing.
At least they respected the Red Faction franchise enough to tell fans that it was dead.
@Wolfey
I actually saw a bunch of commercials and billboards in Chicago regarding De Blob 2. They went the same approach as last year with their marketing, and that sold well. Maybe they're trying to repeat success?
I actually saw a bunch of commercials and billboards in Chicago regarding De Blob 2. They went the same approach as last year with their marketing, and that sold well. Maybe they're trying to repeat success?
WHAT the FUCK do you think will happens, when you turn a sandbox game to a linear game.... WHAT ARE PPL THINKING!!!!!...
A bit shocking, but considering THQ dumped the original, stupid formula with Guerrilla and then went back to it, what can you expect?
The First 2 faction games were like Cult Hits. Guerrilla was a big game and it's multiplayer was fun too. But it wasn't the next Call Of Duty fame wise. I didn't even know Armageddon even existed. Why would they go from a sandbox game that WORKED to something that is overused and wasn't going to work.
Armageddon just didn't look good from the get go. Guerrilla was fun, but even that wasn't worth any more than $40 out of the gate and I'm glad I didn't play that until it was down to $20.
It's a shame, but oh well. Just another reason why PC gaming is looking better to me. It seems that if you want to play things that aren't mainstream you either have to go to PC where PC mainstream isn't really the same, or jump to handhelds and downloadable titles.
It's a shame, but oh well. Just another reason why PC gaming is looking better to me. It seems that if you want to play things that aren't mainstream you either have to go to PC where PC mainstream isn't really the same, or jump to handhelds and downloadable titles.
Maybe if they went back to their roots I would have bought the new one, thre first Red Faction was amazing.
Too bad to see a series evaporate, especially one that had a decent following just poor design choices.
also,
IT REALLY WAS RED FACTION ARMAGEDDON
also,
IT REALLY WAS RED FACTION ARMAGEDDON
@MCBattery
I bought it for $20 and played it enough to make it worth $20 so I would say it is worth $10 but I don't think it will suck you in enough to want to beat it.
Unlike Michael Jackson, I never beat it.
I bought it for $20 and played it enough to make it worth $20 so I would say it is worth $10 but I don't think it will suck you in enough to want to beat it.
Unlike Michael Jackson, I never beat it.
Red Faction was always kind of a one trick pony. I think it's pretty clear that the goofy stuff in those games like the ostrich hammer or Toots The Farting Unicorn were the things where their creativity shined through, not their level or mission structure. I'm sad to see it go because Volition is a pretty cool company, but I think it's a good thing in that they can try something new and more in line with their talent.
What a shame, I still haven't played RF:G long enough due to my graphic card issues, but I found it to be plenty of fun so far on what I tried. I should try getting through the originial too though the keyboard controls were a bit awkward for me at first.
For anyone who doesn't know; Guerilla is the game you want to play, Armageddon is the one you do not. Armageddon sucked because they changed basically everything that made Guerilla good. Amazing that just because it sold awfully (rightfully so) they assume people don't like the franchise anymore, bloody idiots.
Sad, but I guess that's what happens when they abandon the direction they were going with Guerilla, since that was the best game in the series by far.
And now I hate them that much more. I did enjoy Guerrilla. Just not enough to do it twice. Armageddon was basically an attempt to cash in on that slightly above average success, but that's not what we really wanted. I demand a reboot of the series, call it Red Faction 3 and go back to FPS. It can and will be done.
Armageddon wasn't terrible, but you can't really follow up Guerilla with Armageddon and expect it to do well. Guerilla had me excited from the get-go, but Armageddon just left me bored.
They should take the multiplayer from Guerrilla, make it first person, and sell it for $10 on the markets. I will buy that.
I tried the demo and thought it was fun. I just miss the things that made the series special from the beginning... Mining your way through rock to come out to a different area, flanking your enemies, etc.
I did like RF:G, but it wasn't without its problems, chief among them being the whole GFWL thing. Perhaps one day, I'll be able to download patches through that service...
I agree with Andy.
In other news, THQ will continue to pump out Spongebob games forever. You're welcome.
In other news, THQ will continue to pump out Spongebob games forever. You're welcome.
@MCBattery: A lot of sites had it in the running for game of the year. It was certainly one of my favorites as well. I paid full price and it was totally worth it. Actually, I paid full price twice, since I bought a second as a gift.
@ SlyKill
Guerrilla was a sleeper hit. It didn't sell crazy amounts, but it was general received as a decent game by most people and often recommended by people when the price went down.
I wasn't a huge fan of Guerrilla until I got the jetpack. The jetpack turned the game around in a lot of ways and took me from being bored to pretty darned impressed.
Guerrilla was a sleeper hit. It didn't sell crazy amounts, but it was general received as a decent game by most people and often recommended by people when the price went down.
I wasn't a huge fan of Guerrilla until I got the jetpack. The jetpack turned the game around in a lot of ways and took me from being bored to pretty darned impressed.
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