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I can't shake the feeling that the game would be overridden with hacks for the PC which would ruin the entire experience... It would probably require a massive overhaul under the hood to avoid this, which is probably a good reason for it being on the consoles only, for now.
I've finished the game 7+ times, so now I can finish the game as Sub-Zero or Max Payne if I were ever to desire it¿ I'd mod the heck out of a PC version.
Rainbows everywhere, getting invaded by Samus Aran, being in every covenant at once, making it rain souls, giving the player character Fuh Dos Ra, and making it more like Castlevania, scratch that, I've already done the Castlevania "mod" on the X360 :P
Rainbows everywhere, getting invaded by Samus Aran, being in every covenant at once, making it rain souls, giving the player character Fuh Dos Ra, and making it more like Castlevania, scratch that, I've already done the Castlevania "mod" on the X360 :P
I see little reason for this not being on PC other than that being the norm for Japanese studios. The dark fantasy setting, high difficulty, combat system, and pace present in Dark Souls have all been proven to be successful by other titles on the platform (Dragon Age, The Witcher, Super Meat Boy, Elder Scrolls, just to name a few random ones). If From Software were to not make a profit in Japan on this port, they most certainly would in the west.
It doesn't hurt that Dark Souls was my favourite game of last year.
It doesn't hurt that Dark Souls was my favourite game of last year.
I have to admit to wanting this, even though I suspect I'll never finish it. And likely it will be a bad port. Not to knock from but given the receipts they'll likely show, and most developers/publishers attitudes about piracy, I'm betting it never sees the light of day, or is a disasterous port...but I'd still love to see it.
It's dollar and cents. Even if EVERY SINGLE ONE of these people buy it (which they wont), it will still be considered a failure.
I doubt they'd port anything to PC - From Software is a traditional console joint (except the odd decision to port Ninja Blade to PCs...I can't believe it's the same company that made the Souls series). It's a noble effort though.
Also, KING'S FIELD REBOOT OR ETERNAL RING REMAKE NAO.
Also, KING'S FIELD REBOOT OR ETERNAL RING REMAKE NAO.
The more people that get to play this AMAZING game the better, +1 for PC versio,; however, with pirates stealing, what was it again that Company X stated it was...oh yeah, 95% of all PC games can we assume that only 650 that have signed will be buying it?
At the end of the day, making a game hard doesn't make it good. While most would agree demon souls and dark souls iare pretty hard game, opinions would vary whether they are good or not. I didn't think Demons Souls was anything special, and the difficulty was mostly due to the absence of a save game feature. So, if that is your cup of tea, go nuts, I guess.
What seemed to make Demons Souls special was its PS3 exclusivity, making Xbox owners jealous around proving their gaming cred. Losing that in Dark Souls, well I don't have any number but I have seen a more blunted response to the sequel.
Now, PC gamers will be able to see through the silly little games of increasing difficulty by limiting save games, and will probably have a proper game modded within a month.
Without the exclusivity and having normal saves, Dark Souls can be properly compared to other RPGs on the basis of content and gameplay, at which point it will be revealed to be okay, but not a pinacle of the genre.
What seemed to make Demons Souls special was its PS3 exclusivity, making Xbox owners jealous around proving their gaming cred. Losing that in Dark Souls, well I don't have any number but I have seen a more blunted response to the sequel.
Now, PC gamers will be able to see through the silly little games of increasing difficulty by limiting save games, and will probably have a proper game modded within a month.
Without the exclusivity and having normal saves, Dark Souls can be properly compared to other RPGs on the basis of content and gameplay, at which point it will be revealed to be okay, but not a pinacle of the genre.
@DanielCampbell
From Software and NamcoBandai have already made their money back on the game and ports aren't that expensive. Not to mention PC games don't have to be considered a success or failure based on first day, first week, or even first month sales. As long as it's a good port with some proper support, a good price, and no bullshit like SecuROM the game will continue to sell for years. Nearly 15k (as it's up to now) is not a huge number, but it shows some potential for support.
From Software and NamcoBandai have already made their money back on the game and ports aren't that expensive. Not to mention PC games don't have to be considered a success or failure based on first day, first week, or even first month sales. As long as it's a good port with some proper support, a good price, and no bullshit like SecuROM the game will continue to sell for years. Nearly 15k (as it's up to now) is not a huge number, but it shows some potential for support.
fuck yeah do it :)
already bought the PS3 CE.
will double dip for sure :P
also CD Projekt give us The Witcher 2 on PS3 so that i can play both of these titles on PC and PS3 :)
already bought the PS3 CE.
will double dip for sure :P
also CD Projekt give us The Witcher 2 on PS3 so that i can play both of these titles on PC and PS3 :)
@Fearzone - All PS3 exclusivity got Demon's Souls was hindered sales potential in the west, what with SCEA denying its original release. Were it not for Atlus USA's involvement it would be a Japan-only PS3 exclusive.
Your concerns about PC modders dumbing it down aren't without merit, but please be a big boy about Dark Souls being on Xbox. It was a better game for not being involved with Sony at all.
Your concerns about PC modders dumbing it down aren't without merit, but please be a big boy about Dark Souls being on Xbox. It was a better game for not being involved with Sony at all.
@Magnalon
FS doesn't have to port it themselves. There are a few good studios out there to farm the port off on, but both FS and NB need to make sure to have some quality control over it and give the porting studio proper support, time, and money. If they do a quick and cheap port it'll never sell.
PS: I never liked King's Field, but I think the Souls games really work as properly done spiritual successors to it. I would actually like to see a sequel to Enchanted Arms. The game sucked, big time, but the world they crafted was really neat and the battle system was pretty good. Everything else about the game was horrible though.
FS doesn't have to port it themselves. There are a few good studios out there to farm the port off on, but both FS and NB need to make sure to have some quality control over it and give the porting studio proper support, time, and money. If they do a quick and cheap port it'll never sell.
PS: I never liked King's Field, but I think the Souls games really work as properly done spiritual successors to it. I would actually like to see a sequel to Enchanted Arms. The game sucked, big time, but the world they crafted was really neat and the battle system was pretty good. Everything else about the game was horrible though.
This game is crazy, I have it on PS3 but would buy it on PC (Steam preferably) b/c I am crazy as well.
Even running smoothly, Blighttown would still bit the big one. Regardless, I would easily double dip on this game. Just the fact that the controls and framerate would be smooth and not limited by out dated technology would make me happy.
@Jack the Ripper
Let's be honest here... Console hacking isn't even close to as big a problem as PC hacking is... it requires far less know-how (and potential hardware hacks) to mod PC games. There were some exploits that people used for Dark Souls, which was bad enough, but those were patchable gameplay issues. I didn't hear about any actual hacks for the console versions... not to say that it didn't happen, but it was not a major issue. Unless their architecture is already good at protecting against it (and I'm guessing its not), a PC version would get overrun with griefers. I think they'd probably need to completely disable any offline mode (or ala Diablo 2 have separate online and offline characters), and even if they did that I still doubt that it would be well protected online.
Let's be honest here... Console hacking isn't even close to as big a problem as PC hacking is... it requires far less know-how (and potential hardware hacks) to mod PC games. There were some exploits that people used for Dark Souls, which was bad enough, but those were patchable gameplay issues. I didn't hear about any actual hacks for the console versions... not to say that it didn't happen, but it was not a major issue. Unless their architecture is already good at protecting against it (and I'm guessing its not), a PC version would get overrun with griefers. I think they'd probably need to completely disable any offline mode (or ala Diablo 2 have separate online and offline characters), and even if they did that I still doubt that it would be well protected online.
Doing a PC version is really the only way you will get money from me. If no PC version I'll either buy it used or wait till it becomes $20-30 (to which case you'll get so little money you basically got none at all).
If they did do a PC version I'd probably would buy it day 1 assuming it wasn't a shit port.
If they did do a PC version I'd probably would buy it day 1 assuming it wasn't a shit port.
Hell, I would rebuy it since it looks like jaggy ass on the ps3. Put it on steam, price it fairly, and don't do a shitty console port with bad performance. This would find an audience on PC, easy.
@leshrac55: Hence why they would need dedicated servers for this game. So that admins can watch for this type of stuff along with Steam support. A PC version may be easier to hack, but a done well PC version is usually closely monitored by community members.
It's gained 3,000 signatures in the past hour. I hope it keeps going. And I hope Namco is paying attention. I've already played the shit out of Dark Souls on Xbox, but I'd definitely buy it again on PC. The thought of Blight Town not lagging like a bitch makes me giddy.
I wouldn't mind seeing the game come to a service like OnLive. PC hacks would ruin the experience for sure.
@leshrac55: the Xbox version had a save hack on day one. It's probably blocked by now, but it was around for a while. As for PC, most public servers are very well protected. If a game uses VAC, theres absolutely nothing to worry about.
I would double dip for this for sure! Now if we can only plead Atlus for a Demon's Souls to along side this...
Makes me excited since I upgraded my computer and can run plenty of modern games on ultra settings and still maintain 50-60 fps.
Makes me excited since I upgraded my computer and can run plenty of modern games on ultra settings and still maintain 50-60 fps.
Put it on steam and ill buy it. Pretty much the only thing that's held me back was that it was in console.
@Magnalon: Actually your argument is flawed. Ninja Blade and King's Field were both on PC and if you've followed game developments in the past 5+ years you'd know that anything is possible.
Would be funny see they bring the game to PC and then fail after a sea of complains "THE TEXTURES!", "NO MODS!", "NO QUICK SAVE?!"
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