President of Sony Computer Entertainment Europe David Reeves has been talking again, this time re-iterating Sony's mantra of "a marathon, not a sprint" by stating that it's actually going to be Christmas 2008 that the company aims to nail as a big pay-day rather than the one coming up. Talking to the semi-official Three Speech blog, Reeves fielded questions about the lack of a European price-cut, the potential for a price drop before Christmas, and what SCEE is planning to do to improve the PS3's games line-up over the next 18 months. When asked how the PlayStation 3 will fare during this year's Christmas battle-zone, he responded: I think each peak is crucial to maximise what you can do, but I don’t think this Christmas is necessarily the most critical one – I think that’s going to be Christmas 08. I see this more as kind of like a tsunami – it starts small and gathers speed, and eventually, after four or five years, it will start to take you over. At least, that’s the way we’ve mapped it out. We’re not necessarily trying to take a scatter-gun approach with all the top titles just before Christmas. Again, it’s like reducing the price in summer – we don’t believe it works to put six or seven of our own games out [at Christmas], because consumers don’t have enough money to buy them all. And the trade doesn’t quite know where to put all the top titles. So what you’re going to see is that we might put some of our jewels out in February, March, May and right through the year. We call them pillar titles. I think, probably, that third parties will try to put their pillar titles out before Christmas, because that’s where they get the best sales. But we have a slightly different approach.
Hit the jump for Reeves' explanation for the lack of price-cut in Europe.
If you’re a consumer — and we introduced the PS3 in March for £425 or 599 Euros – let’s say you bought one at the end of April and have been using it, playing Resistance: Fall of Man and MotorStorm. We’ve only been on the market for three and a bit months. Our thought process was: “Wait a minute – we’re actually not doing too badly – we’re not selling as well as Wii or DS – but seasonality-wise, compared to, say, PS2 at the same time we launched it in 2001, we’re actually doing quite well on a regional level”. It’s exactly the target that we sought. July is not really a gamers’ month unless you get a big, big title. So we thought if we reduced the price, we’d annoy a lot of people. We did think about it, but we also felt that it wasn’t doing that badly. In the US, they’ve been going for more than six months, so they took the decision that going down in price was a better thing to do than a value pack. Interesting indeed. While Reeves' statements have obviously caused some pretty severe problems before, there are some who are actually beginning to warm to his honesty, whether the news he gives is good or not, and it doesn't get much more honest than admitted that Sony basically didn't drop the price of the PS3 in Europe because it didn't feel it needed to. Explaining that the company didn't want to annoy early adopters with a price drop however, is a bit tenuous to say the least. Thanks to the internet, we live in a global gaming community, and whereas ten years ago Europe vaguely knew that it was getting screwed, today it knows every detail of what's going on across the pond and understandably wants the same perks. The PlayStation 3 might only have been out over here for three months, but European gamers have been following its progress since day one and many don't feel the disconnection from the global market that Sony seems to assume. Of course, the extra Sixaxis and games in the UK bundle packs do definitely help in balancing out the value, but a lot of gamers would still like to be able to buy the machine for a price at least comparable to America's and have a choice as to what they spend the rest of the money on. Extras or not, there's still a big difference between £250 and £425. As for the statements about Christmas and the slow and steady approach, I tend to agree that it's the best way to go, at least in part. While there can't be many who'd believe that Sony actually had this plan all along - Would the company really be using a slow-build business model if the PS3 had taken off as it had hoped? I think not - after the beating the console's had, Sony needs to take a step back, shut up, and build up the PS3's quality titles for a while before it starts showboating again. A good Christmas would obviously do the company no harm at all, but Sony can't afford to be rushing in over-assured for a second time. Having said that though, writing the period off as unimportant is something that clearly should most definitely not be done under any circumstances, and I certainly hope Reeves is aware of that and merely covering himself in case of disappointing Christmas sales. While the resetting of its goalposts has obviously been forced by the PS3's currently unspectacular progress, E3 did at least show some promise for the future. It's going to take a while however, and a company on far better behavior than we've seen so far, before that promise comes to fruition. Let's just hope that having this measured approach forced upon it does actually teach Sony some humilty. It worked wonders for Nintendo. Make sure to check out Three Speech for the rest of the interview. [Via GamesIndustry.biz]
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It's official. Reeves is the new Kutaragi!
WTF is this guy smoking?
Phil or Jack, I know one of you are reading this. One of you needs to make a call over to Sony Europe and tell Reeves he's not allowed to talk...ever again.
How are the holidays not important to ANY company? Are they not in the business of selling lots of stuff when people are not buying lots of stuff? Somebody explain capitalism to this man
@Niero
He may be expecting lower than planned sales numbers and wants to have a statement to fall back on next year after the NPD numbers drop for the holidays.
Sony's whole "slow and steady wind the race" approach just screams of covering their asses. While they do need to quieten down and take the time to work on the PS3's library, no-one can see Christmas as not a big deal.
Someone should give this guy a podcast. It would be GOLD!
No please, don't give this jerk-off nothing. He needs to close his mouth. They are just ruining what they did a E3 day by day
I don't get why people are hating on David Reeves because he's not running a fucking line from some PR print out.
For the market that likes to buy all its consoles, Sony sure does like to leave Europe til the end. There is good reasoning behind this, though. Because us Europeans are frickin' thickos who'll just buy what they try to sell us anyway.
You know there was no company launch party for PS3 in Europe? Yet SCEA and Japan had massive ones? Sorry, who developed Motorstorm again? Who's bringing out SingStar and Heavenly Sword? I forgot how unimportant we were.
lol.
Quote: "we don’t believe it works to put six or seven of our own games out [at Christmas], because consumers don’t have enough money to buy them all. And the trade doesn’t quite know where to put all the top titles."
WTF is he smoking indeed....does Sony have some kind of training course for teaching management this twisted double speak? It seems like they all do it.
I love my PS3 but this guy is a ignorant douche.
I don't get why people are hating on David Reeves because he's not running a fucking line from some PR print out.
Qulprit, the problem is that he is running a line from a PR print out and it's a really horrible line. This is bad PR, plain and simple.
Why this guy is still working for Sony? If I were his boss this guy would have been in the unemployment's line a long time ago.
Still, apart of stupid PR and price and no games, Sony is having it BAD. They are still selling fucktons of PS2s and those people are sure as hell not getting a PS3 in the near (4 years) future.
Poor Microsoft, they were clearly in the "lead" until the RRoD exploded in their face. That thing prevented them of making profit. tsk tsk tsk...
At least everybody is happy at Nintendo land eating expensive mushrooms and dancing with controllers and other fruity activities.
I thought the consumer decides how quickly a product will sell, not the company's eight-months-later "plan".
You can't have slow sales forever, Sony, that isn't a good business model. Fast and steady wins the race.
/nod @ Vigot
honestly, I have build this mental shield, love the product, ignore the BS talkers.
I just got back from playing a little Symphony of the night, gad it brings back memories.
Vigor******* sorry >_>
So dropping all of your triple A titles during the holiday season is good for gamers how exactly? This may just be PR spin and moving the goalposts as has been suggested, but I for one would welcome an industry-wide change in this direction. Having titles released throughout the year means more people would be able to pick up great titles they may have overlooked at another time due to the market being overcrowded.
"because consumers don’t have enough money to buy them all."
SQOTD (stupidest quote of the day).
I'm sure the consumer has enough money to buy a 600 ps3, then, right?
Clearly, that statement is suspect. What I see happening is Sony conceding Christmast 07 sales at this point, probably because they know that most of the top games will not be ready by then.
Who the hell would buy this system knowing that you have to wait 4 or 5 years until they get their crap together? By that time the other console makers will be coming out with a new gen of hardware.
Or in other (and quite fewer) words - Microsoft will dominate this holiday season with great games that they showed at E3 and will hit 2007.
While I agree the guy is a douche' bag, I am trying to figure out how I am going toafford all the triple a title coming out between September 25th and Christmas. I would much rather see titles spread out through the year than have to endure the summer game droughts.
aiming for christmas 08' is not such a smart idea; seems to far away... i mean, Sony's got to start showing they are a contender ASAP. The longer the PS3 stays in a rut the more developers will be less likely to go PS3 exculsive... afterall, Developers want to make money and they can't make money developing exclusively for a console that's not selling. Sony's got to show third party developers that the console can be successful so that they will help support it... it's a vicous cycle, The PS3 doesn't sell well because it has few good exclusive developers, the PS3 doesn't have many good exclusive developers because it doesn't sell well... obviously one of those things have to change to break the cycle and it isn't going to be the developer support... Sony's got to sell well to break the cycle and bring on developer support
though really, this is just more Sony "we don't have problems, we planned for this and it's actually a good thing" PR... y'know just like saying rumble was last gen and that Europeans don't mind waiting for delays...
@snapperdragon
"Who the hell would buy this system knowing that you have to wait 4 or 5 years until they get their crap together? By that time the other console makers will be coming out with a new gen of hardware."
Well, that could be the whole 10 year plan that sony's been talking about; only smart thing sony has done so far this gen. Really, the technology leap between the 360 and xbox was smaller than the leap between PS2 and PS1, which in turn was smaller than N64 and SNES; each generation only last's 5-6 years and the technological leaps between the generations has been getting smaller, while the pirces to the consoles has been rising... really i have little doubt that if MIcrosoft were to release a console in the next 4-5 years, it would be a console that was not THAT much stronger than the 360(smaller tech leap than between 360 and xbox) but is at the same time much more expensive... definatly not worth buying. both the PS3 and the 360 (who will both have had price drops by then) will look like much more attractive buys. I think the only thing that MS could in 4-5 years, and be greatly successful, is follow the wii's example and use old gen hardware, but do something seriously innovative... though i don't see what they could do in the next 4-5 years
I think nintendo is the only who could sucessfully make a great console in the next 4-5 years. They can exploit the tech they didn't use this gen and, in 4-5 years, make a console that's just about as powerful as the 360, is much more powerful than the wii, but costs something affordable like $300... a very attractive buy in 4-5 years when accompanied by a good nintnedo launch line up.