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Third-party upscaler makes Wii HD photo

While Nintendo figures out how and when they're going to address high-definition with one of their consoles, a third-party solution has arrived for those who'd like to shiny up their Wii. VDIGI Electronics has a product on their website which claims to be able to upscale the video output of the Wii to 1080p.

While it doesn't particularly bother me all that much that the Wii isn't HD, I know I certainly wouldn't mind things looking a little sharper. The device outputs via HDMI and will set you back $75, which may be a bit pricier than many will want to pay.

I'd be interested in seeing how well the device works, how about you lot?

VDIGI releases VD-W3: World's First HDMI Upscaler Processor for Wii [GoNintendo via The Tanooki]








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RenegadePanda's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2010 13:24
RenegadePanda
Ouch...75 bucks?

I'll just deal with shitty video output for now.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2010 13:24
Chris Carter
I would love this, as most of my WiiWare games look super tiny on my screen.
killatia's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2010 13:24
killatia
This sounds pretty useless. My HDTV has no problem playing my wii in 480p, and I know some tvs can already upscale images to 1080p.
Jon B's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2010 13:24
Jon B
That's nice and all, but the functionality should have been there from the get-go.
IonDan's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2010 13:29
IonDan
If it worked with other devices, like say my PS2 in addition to the Wii I'd spring for it
MooImaChicken's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2010 13:31
MooImaChicken
can someone explain this? does it make it go farther than 480p? sounds to good to be true...
covah's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2010 13:31
covah
if it makes games look like they do on the Dolphin emulator, then I'd be very interested.
Caleb Phillips's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2010 13:32
Caleb Phillips
I.... don't really understand how this box is supposed to increase your picture clarity? Like, the Wii outputs what it outputs, this isn't CSI where you can just say "enhance" and get better resolution... Where are these extra pixels coming from?
Sentry's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2010 13:32
Sentry
I'd be curious as to how effective it can really be, though my budget wouldn't at all allow for that sort of thing anytime soon.
Higgins's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2010 13:34
Higgins
Well, I doubt it really needs to be that expensive. That said, I would get one if I was employed right now :(
Kyle MacGregor's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2010 13:35
Kyle MacGregor
I might be interested if my tv wasn't sd. I'd be more interested in getting an hd for my ps3
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2010 13:35
Tubatic
Well that's cool... but $75?

I might, but... gosh thats alot for just a little fidelity
Rocketmaus's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2010 13:36
Rocketmaus
Why should I buy a HD Tv set? Just for some stupid games and movies I already have? Once HD is a standard in our world, I will buy me one. Not earlier! End of line!
bobyoko's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2010 13:37
bobyoko
you guys need to pick one of these up for review. this product is right up dtoid's alley.
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2010 13:39
Sexualchocolate
Rocketmaus, HD will be a standard when people like you join the HD world.

It's because so many people don't have HD TV's that we lack HD broadcasting.

Supply and demand, demand and supply.
jawshoeuh's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2010 13:43
jawshoeuh
We use a professional scaler at work to capture Wii footage that doesn't look atrocious and I will say it makes a huge difference in quality. That said, most Wii games don't really benefit THAT much from the boost...
DanGahlay's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2010 13:51
DanGahlay
@sexualchocolate

I think you'll find we lack HD broadcasting as standard because half the people in broadcasting haven't a clue and the other half are seemingly lowering their standards as to what HD actually is.

As Caleb Phillips pointed out, I'm not sure exactly how this works. If the Wii is only outputting 480p at best where's the extra information coming from? 480p upscaled isn't 1080p. It's just 480p upscaled.
BrettV's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2010 14:04
BrettV
@Caleb- You're right. The Wii's output is 720x480, and no matter how you gussy it up, that's all it will ever be. However, with HDMI, upscaling an output that is 480p mimics 1080, thus giving you a clearer, sharper image. This is the reason why I use my XBox 360 to watch DVDs. Despite the DVDs not being HD themselves, there is quite a noticeable difference in quality when watching them on a DVD player hooked up through RCA cables vs. the XBox with HDMI.
Maurice Tan's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2010 14:04
Maurice Tan
I think we are all missing the point that these will still just be Wii games ;)
Angry Munky's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2010 14:06
Angry Munky
It's simply an upscaler. So it takes the video from a device, and upsamples it to a higher resolution. It doesn't so much re-render everything our output a HD image like a 360 or PS3, but it just takes the image and stretches it out with an algorythm to allow output to 720p or 1080i. It looks like the device has a processor in it, as it runs from power of the USB port on the Wii.
TheDirtyHobo's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2010 14:15
TheDirtyHobo
I already have something that plays Wii games in 1080p, it's a fancy new device they call a personal computer. Dolphin is awesome, just kinda sucks I can only play games that don't use the wiimote.
bluexy's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2010 14:15
bluexy
Kind of against the point isn't it?
Dv8thwonder's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2010 14:16
Dv8thwonder
Wii HD confirmed. I'd get one but they are sold out apparently.
bobyoko's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2010 14:18
bobyoko
here's my double. i'd like to know what resolution this device outputs. i'm sure it's not to 1080, but if it's over 720, it'd be worth it. there's got to be an issue with the graphics, as they were never meant for that resolution, right? i'm not completely up on my upscaler science, due mostly to the fact that i just finally upgraded my tv. i love the look of wii at 480p, but would die if i could run galaxy 2 at 720. also, why wouldn't nintendo just put out their own cord, if it's just that easy?

@sans
my tv signal comes from the antenna, and all of the major networks are running at least 720. i assume you're talking about the cable channels lacking hd signal? isn't this situation similar to upscaling dvd? i know the resolution of those images isn't to 1080, but it is above 720, and 720 is the standard. again, i'd love to see a review on this sort of equipment.

also, if you're still waiting to buy an hd set, i would encourage you to do so. the picture quality even at 480p is quite a difference. my new set is much more versatile than my old crt as well. if you've got the cash, i'd recommend upgrading.
Tristero's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2010 14:26
Tristero
It's like the HDMI Blaster. Only with 360 more "P"s. If you've ever played a PSone Classic through your PS3, you'll get a close idea of what to expect. More color saturation, clearer jaggies.
atastysammich's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2010 14:35
atastysammich
I'm mildly curious. I wouldn't mind seeing it in action.
pedrovay2003's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2010 14:42
pedrovay2003
I'm curious to see how it'd work, but like you, I really don't care that the Wii isn't HD.
Jaffacakelover's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2010 14:48
Jaffacakelover
I can still see jaggies in those screenshots.
No deal.
Excel-2011's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2010 14:50
Excel-2011
Upscaling is a sham and a lie. Don't accept anything less than native resolution.
DanGahlay's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2010 15:00
DanGahlay
@bobyoko

I'm not sure exactly how it is over in the US but I'm in the UK and the HD "broadcasting" over here is pretty atrocious. For one each company (Sky, BBC, ITV etc.) get to decided themselves what qualifies as HD, which means they're all completely different. In the case of the BBC they recently cut their HD bitrate to 9mbps from 16mbps. This was after they had already cut it from 20mbps. They still advertise HD and technically still output at least a 720 signal (I think) but the video quality is much lower than it used to be. Of course this all assumes that all HD content on the HD channels were actually shot in HD. There are often a few shows I see on HD channels that I know for a fact weren't shot using HD (mainly because I worked on them). Like I said though, I'm not sure exactly how it breaks down over there technically, I assumed it would be a similar situation but I could be terribly wrong about that.

Of course none of this really matters as not many people can tell the difference between SD and HD anyway, but still it all adds to great HD illusion.

Unless you're watching something like Life, which is just fucking beautiful.

Er, anyway. Games. :)
's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2010 15:13
Diyana
please tell me that destructoid will be testing this because i am mad interested. this is way cheaper than buying move for HD waggle.

@sans spans "Of course none of this really matters as not many people can tell the difference between SD and HD anyway, but still it all adds to great HD illusion."

really? i thought that the difference was quite noticeable to the average tv viewer. it is mos def noticeable to me.
ryuken's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2010 15:24
ryuken
wow, I care HD is better period, but the lack of hd wont stop me from playing the Wii. I'm more interested in little details, like if it works with all games and were it plugs in/how big is it. 75 isnt bad, if it works great its basically a huge ungrade for the Wii and thats awesome.
ryuken's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2010 15:25
ryuken
haha I just looked at the picture and now I know how big and how it plugs in, I'm impressed.
bobyoko's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2010 15:32
bobyoko
@ sans
facepalm. i had assumed you were stateside. we must have it a little better over here, because i can see a huge difference in resolution from 480p to 720p signals. that being said, i also notice a difference between stations claiming to both be at 720, so your info makes sense.

not to turn this into a tech thread (which i guess it really is). but from my experience upscaling works pretty well. i've got my dvd player displaying at pro scan (480p), and can tell a huge dif over a standard signal. from what i know, dvd upscalers bring that signal to about double the res (800ish), which is more than i need. still waiting for a real answer on the topic, i guess.
ryuken's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2010 15:38
ryuken
I agree, SD and HD are very very different anyone who thinks otherwise is slightly blind or has not had the privledge of watching/playing something in HD.

On the other hand some people may not tell the difference between 720p and 1080p, they are both great. buuut I finally went to 1080p and I'll never go back Never!!!!!!
Tarnum's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2010 15:49
Tarnum
Wow, this device delivers some pretty convincing results. I mean look at the sharp picture of this giant Samsung screen... impressive! ;-)

Actually my 42" Toshiba does a very solid job good in upscaling, so call me out on this one.
Brolsen's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2010 16:00
Brolsen
Ok so it does upscaling. In order for the image to be upscaled to 1080p you need a hdtv. And all hdtvs are already capable of upscaling already. Pretty useless if you ask me.
Zantetsuken's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2010 16:32
Zantetsuken
Yeah, but built in HDTV upscaling is really bad. Unless you want to spend £4000 - £5000.
Paul Soth's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2010 16:40
Paul Soth
Lag?
rockstarnati's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2010 16:54
rockstarnati
Very interested. That picture looks great. My Wii doesn't look that good on my 50" plasma, so if this thing's the real deal, I'm getting one.
kerosene's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2010 18:34
kerosene
is this a joke?
Corduroy Turtle's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2010 18:42
Corduroy Turtle
I want this to be true, but it's not. If it was as easy as a cord, then Nintendo would have just released something by now. There's not reason they wouldn't have.
RonBurgandy2010's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2010 20:21
RonBurgandy2010
Video or it didn't happen.
Gee-Man's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2010 21:35
Gee-Man
Eh, not that interested. I'm perfectly fine with playing me Wii games in non-HD if it means saving $75. I already have a 360 to take care of my HD needs.
Caspulex's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2010 23:21
Caspulex
Dolphin handled this a long while back.
Caleb Phillips's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/25/2010 01:08
Caleb Phillips
Im sure it will look better, i mean if you just basically blew up the picture and sharpened up the colors it would be better than nothing, but its definately not actually going to be HD. Of course you couldn't have been that concerned about it if you bought a Wii in the first place.
rockstarnati's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/25/2010 01:17
rockstarnati
Just got an e-mail that these are available now, but the site says they are backordered and will be available on the 30th. Waiting for the dcemu review or some other reviews to trickle in before I shit my pants about this. But at $75, I'll probably never actually do it.
Nickj360's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/25/2010 02:20
Nickj360
Upscaling is usually garbage anyways.
Dv8thwonder's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/25/2010 04:45
Dv8thwonder
This coupled with a line doubler would make HD Wii a definite possibilty.
seanileus's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/25/2010 05:39
seanileus
I think with some games coming for Wii, like Galaxy 2 and Other M, this is very necessary.
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