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If you've been following the world of videogames for any length of time, you'll doubtless have come into contact with the huge amounts of negative press that videogames get. Thanks to media sources like FOX News and The Daily Mail and individual moral crusaders such as Jack Thompson or Leland Yee, games have shouldered the blame for much of the violence and chaos that is prevelant in society.

Of course, it's easy to slap videogames with a bad reputation in isolated and sensationalized incidents, but when we really put interactive software into perspective, how does it rank up against other causes of violence such as alcohol, football and even shopping? 

What we've done here is by no means scientific, but we feel it serves a solid counter argument that if we should ban videogames for their potential to cause harm, there are all manner of other facets of society, some of them important and seemingly benign, that must be outlawed long before gaming comes under fire. What we have done is compiled a death toll for videogames, looking at all the cases involved gaming and mortality over the years. We believe that, even if we stack the deck against videogames by drawing unfair comparisons with other examples, that games will come out as untainted saints in contrast. 

Now, most of you know that already without the proof. Still, it's always nice to be right.

The Videogame Death Toll:

From compiling all the instances of reported mortality that has been publicly connected in some way, shape or form to videogames, we have been able to "attribute" a death toll of no more than 26 to gaming. In order to be sporting, we have even included instances of murder where videogames were ruled out by police as a contributing cause, such as the murder of Stephen Pakeerah in 2004 and the retracted insanity plea of Dustin Lynch in February 2003.

Here's a list of cases of death where videogames were said to be involved:

Apr 1999 - Columbine Massacre - 13 dead
Nov 2001 - Everquest suicide - 1 dead
Jun 2003 - Dustin Lynch - 1 dead
Jun 2003 - Devin Moore - 3 dead
Jun 2003 - Buckner brothers - 1 dead, 1 wounded
Feb 2004 - Murder of Stephen Pakeerah - 1 dead
Oct 2004 - Qiu Chengwei - 1 dead
Aug 2005 - Lee Seung Seop dies after playing Starcraft - 1 dead
Sep 2007 - Man dies in Guangzhou after 3-day binge - 1 dead
Dec 2007 - Beating in Russia - 1 dead
Oct 2008 - Brandon Crisp - 1 dead
Sep 2008 - Daniel Petric - 1 dead, 1 wounded

To stack the deck against videogames even more, we included deaths involving games that were not instances of murder, but remain unproven, notably the passing of two individual Chinese gamers who seemingly died after huge gaming binges. Just for completion's sake, we even threw in the famous Everquest suicide case of 2001. 

The only case we have omitted from the videogame kill count is the Virginia Tech shooting of 2007. The videogame connection was an invention of the press and those who already bore grudges against interactive software. We know why Seung-Hui Cho did the things he did, and we know that videogames were not part of the case. While we included other cases where the police effectively ruled out videogames, we are not going to include a case where the game connection was simply dreamed up to score points off the tragedy. 

26 deaths, and if you're a completist, 2 wounded. Let's compare that kill count to other things that we can ban instead of videogames. 

Soccer:

Soccer, or football as it is known in England, is the United Kingdom's most treasured sport, and commands a loyalty among its fans that could rival any religion. "Eat football, sleep football, live football," is a saying that I grew up having hammered into my head as a British child. In England, football is God. 

It is a wrathful God. 

Football is responsible for much gang violence in the UK, and there are individual cases of stabbings and beatings throughout the history of worldwide football hooliganism. Remember, I said we'd be stacking the deck here, so let's give soccer an unfair advantage. Let's take all football-related deaths from JUST England, and then only include the most famous cases. What's the death toll?

137. That is just using the four most famous cases, and just looking at England. Let's compare that to the videogame death toll which is collected from cases around the world. 137 versus 26. It's not hard to see what should be banned if human safety really is the concern of the moral majority. 

We can even trump the videogame death toll in just one match. Two of the most famous cases, in fact, easily beat out videogames. First of all, we have the Heysel Stadium Disaster, where fans of the British Liverpool team crushed 39 Italian Juventes fans to death with a wall. Even more shocking is the Hillsborough Disaster of 1989, where a staggering 96 football fans were killed in a human crush. 

Just two cases alone "prove" that football is deadlier than videogames. The numbers are there. 

Religion:

Football is like a religion, but nothing beats the real deal. We all know that religion is one of the leading causes of death and destruction in human history. From the medieval Crusades to modern day terrorism, the name of God has been soaked in more than enough blood. Again, we're giving videogames a tough time, and it would be far too easy to pile on the Holy Wars and give gaming a free pass. 

Less "easy" examples of religious death involve "Visionary" serial killers. These are men and women who "hear" the voice of God, or other religious figures, and are compelled to kill by the belief that they're doing The Lord's work. Harvey Carignan is a fine example, a man who claimed God told him to hit women until they were dead. While a death toll formed simply of people who killed because they thought Jesus told them to would be lovely, such figures appear difficult to take a stab at (pardon the expression), even with extensive research. 

Instead, I'm going to bring up a name that should be familiar to many of you -- Jim Jones. James Warren "Jim" Jones was the founder of The People's Temple, a religious group that in 1978 became responsible for the greatest loss of American civilian life in a non-natural event until the September 11 terrorist attacks (a case which can only be linked to religion). The short story is that 909 individuals took part in a mass suicide, spurred on by Jones, after joining his cult and being convinced to drink cyanide-laced Flavor Aid.

909 individuals killed in the name of religious belief. That's just one cult as well. That's just the minimum figure, with many other cases of mass suicide out here. Again, in the entire history of videogames, we have only 26 deaths that could be attributed. When it comes to religion, we start at 909 and work our way up.

We're not saying that these cults are strictly in line with the majority of religions, but then, nobody ever says that those who kill in the name of GTA IV are strictly in line with the majority of gamers, either. However, people want to ban games despite the fact that the deaths are tenuously related. Cults, also, are a tenuous byproduct of religious belief. We could happily ban religion instead of videogames and make cults much harder to flourish.  

Alcohol:

While the field of videogame violence research has thrown up nothing but conflicting results and differing opinions, we seem to have piles of evidence when it comes to the dangers of drink. Of course, The Daily Mail has never run a frontpage article demanding an alcohol ban. Not like it did for videogames. 

Let's return to the United Kingdom for this one. As usual, we don't wish to give games an easy ride, so we'll compare every single death that can be related to a game with just one country in just one year. Surely the videogames, with decades and decades of deaths, will overshadow the booze, right? 

A number of charities have been criticizing alcohol-related death lately, claiming that the amount of cases has risen to unacceptable levels. Using figures attained from 2007, these charities have been able to tell us that 13.3 alcohol-related deaths were had per 100,000 people. The population of Britain in 2007 stood at 60,769,000 people. If we all get out our calculators, we should be able to get a nice round figure, from that one year alone.

8082!

Actually, the correct figure is 8082.82, but let's not make things look even worse for the booze. Again, over the span of several decades, videogames could only be marginally held accountable for 26 deaths. If you want to do a direct comparison, videogames were implicated in only 3 deaths during 2007. 8082 versus 3. Hardly grounds for newspapers to cry "BAN THIS SICK FILTH" over games, when you truly put it into perspective.

Sugar: 

America loves its sugar. Your British immigrant writer actually can't eat common household bread in this country because Americans stuff too much sugar into it. People like sugar -- it makes things taste sweet, and sweet things are good things. Nobody would ever want to ban it. However, sugar causes more deaths per year than videogames could ever dream of. 

One of the most common causes of death in America is diabetes, and according to the American Diabetes Association, the disease claimed 224,092 lives in 2002 alone. You eat too much sugar, you get diabetes. You play too many videogames, you do not get diabetes.

Hispanics working in Texas:

Did you know that Texas is a nation leader when it comes to the death of Hispanics? That's right, according to a 2005 report, Texas had the highest Hispanic workplace death rate of any other state, a shocking 163 dead of 491 worker deaths. Since 163 is a much higher number than 26, we obviously need to ban Hispanic people from working in Texas. It will save lives, so we must do this thing!

491 worker deaths in total is pretty high. Maybe we should ban everyone in the state of Texas from working. Mass unemployment could have saved those lives! Hell, if we want to save the whole of America, we could point out that this 2005 report noted 5,559 American workplace deaths nationwide. Let's give nobody a job and save the world! Well, I suppose that's actually happening at the moment, so it seems America's on the right track. This is good. Jobs should be banned instead of videogames, because lives will be saved. That's how it works, right?

End notes:

Now, we are obviously not going to seriously advocate the banning of these provided items. This is not an article intended to demonize religion, soccer, drink or anything else. However, hopefully this illustrates just how myopic and single-minded the anti-videogame crusade is. Compared to the millions and millions of deaths we have a year, a mere 26 in all of history isn't even pocket change. It's not even a drop in the ocean. 

Even if we believed that videogames alone caused these 26 deaths, and we don't, there is not enough evidence to show that they prove a danger to society in the slightest. 26 deaths compared to the hundreds caused by football riots, or the thousands that have died from diabetes, is nothing. Barely microscopic. A joke. 

If you crusade against videogames, you are quite clearly doing nothing for society. You will not save it, you will not be a hero. You will have about as much impact on the world as 26 deaths have in the grand scheme of things. 

Next time someone tells you that videogames are the cause of violence and destruction, whether they say it from behind a lecturn, over a beer, while eating candy or employing a Hispanic, just tell them.

It could be worse. 

We could be watching a football match.


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Jonathan Holmes's Avatar
Jonathan Holmes at 02/20/2009 19:02
Uh...

wuh....

Wow...

WOW!!

THAT WAS FUCKING BRILLIANT!!!
Trevor McGee's Avatar
Trevor McGee at 02/20/2009 19:05
Yes, Jim, this was a brilliant piece. I also second the banning of religion. :P
Guyver 0's Avatar
Guyver 0 at 02/20/2009 19:06
where's peirs morgan?
RonBurgandy2010's Avatar
RonBurgandy2010 at 02/20/2009 19:08
Does anyone have the UN's email address handy?
Half left's Avatar
Half left at 02/20/2009 19:09
I'd always rather watch a game of rugby than football, seems more interesting.

VERY good read, Jim.
Jesus H Christ's Avatar
Jesus H Christ at 02/20/2009 19:13
Ban life! It only leads to death! LOL!
RiotMonster's Avatar
RiotMonster at 02/20/2009 19:16
Lmfao!!
If we could "favorite" certain articles to look back on and read again, this would be one of them.
garison's Avatar
garison at 02/20/2009 19:21
Very good, sir. Very good.
vonneuton's Avatar
vonneuton at 02/20/2009 19:27
Jim, you have flat out MADE MY DAY. I'm going drinking!
Naim Master's Avatar
Naim Master at 02/20/2009 19:29
*put the slow clap gif and the "brilliant" guy with a cigar pic here*
Jim , YOU ARE MY HERO ! *starts crying and opening arms for a hug*
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SnakeDude4Life at 02/20/2009 19:32
I concur on the whole Ban Religion part, but I hope Raptor Jesus does not count!

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Spelunking raccoon at 02/20/2009 19:33
Well last Saturday I got very drunk, watched a lot football and got into a random argument with a bloke in a pub about religion. Sunday I felt like shit.
So as an experiment this Saturday I'm just going to stay in and play Ikaruga, unless piers Morgan rapes me in my sleep I should feel fine on Sunday.

Always good to test theory's out through experimentation I say.
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SnakeDude4Life at 02/20/2009 19:35
@RonBurgandy2010

You could try:
inquiries@un.org
TheHunter234's Avatar
TheHunter234 at 02/20/2009 19:39
This puts a lot of things in perspective. Great article.
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Poopface Morty at 02/20/2009 19:41
Jim, this post was fucking awesome.
MissHinasaki's Avatar
MissHinasaki at 02/20/2009 19:41
God bless you, sir! You are too brilliant!
Zero_armada's Avatar
Zero_armada at 02/20/2009 19:43
Being a Hokie, I have to mention the Virginia Tech shootings, which somehow, for some reason, police said videogames were a possible link to the shootings.

Then again, he was blatantly psychopathic, and didn't receive help when he needed it and looked for it. I've called bullshit several times on that claim, and I'll call it here. Thanks for this post, about time it was spelled out to people that videogames are not a threat to civilization as we know it.
Satsumomo's Avatar
Satsumomo at 02/20/2009 19:48
"If you crusade against videogames, you are quite clearly doing nothing for society. You will not save it, you will not be a hero. You will have about as much impact on the world as 26 deaths have in the grand scheme of things. "

This is the best bit. CONGRATULATIONS, YOU HAVE BANNED A MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR INDUSTRY, YOU HAVE DESTROYED HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF JOBS, AND YOU HAVE SAVED 26 LIVES.
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ThunderHeartXI at 02/20/2009 19:54
Awesome article. Now even the most blind of video game haters have the facts plainly written out for them.
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The GHost at 02/20/2009 19:57
Amazing post Jim. I do feel like I feel that many of the above mentioned deaths, as well as those related to videogames, have much more to do with mental instability than the activities themselves. If someone is unbalanced due to outside pressures or what have you then they will crack eventually, and at that point we can go back and see what he or she was involved with as a hobby or whatever and start making connections.

Not saying that all those activities don't have some kind of influence, just that it's minor compared to the personal problems of everyday life.

Hope that didn't come off as too preachy or anything :)
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eternalplayer2345 at 02/20/2009 19:59
*starts a slow clap*
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Jack8274 at 02/20/2009 20:03
Ban Religion, kill everyone who doesn't follow. Simple and easy. get rid of the idiots in a single blow leaving mostly scientists and nerds. The middle east would be bombed instantly, no chance there, then we would just take most of Southern USA. One by one the churches would burn on their days of worship, boarding up the doors, hearing the screams of the ignorant. It would be awesome
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Slick Icarus II at 02/20/2009 20:10
BRILLIANT!

Despite being a deeply spiritual person, I can't help to agree with everything you said. Just hope that this doesn't result in any of those "religion is evil and Atheism is the way to go" rants, because saying that Atheism is better than any religion is as immature as saying one religion is better than another. Let's just agree to disagree, and accept that everyone is right in their own little world. Believe what you want to believe, because in the end it doesn't make a bit of difference. As you don't hurt anybody else. Except those damn Jehovah's Witness. Why won't they leave me alone?

Also, ban cocks.
Mxyzptlk's Avatar
Mxyzptlk at 02/20/2009 20:14
I'm pretty sure Heretic, Reaprar, WiiSucks, and Ron were responsible for even fewer deaths than videogames. So why were they banned? ;P

Great post sir.
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Tehmtnlion at 02/20/2009 20:16
I'm going to go watch football, while snorting lines of sugar of a hispanic hooker's back, drunk, chanting Hail Mary's.

I'm pretty sure I should spontaneously combust about 15 minutes in.

Good article Jim.
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Cowboy TTop at 02/20/2009 20:27
Hey, I love me some soccer. Its a good game like any other sport, but its usually the case that those who don't like it, don't take the time to understand it, and why its cherish by many. Each to their own.

Now while soccer fans can get to passionate, to the point of violence, you need to correct yourself here Jim. The EPL eliminated hooliganism from the game in the U.K, making our soccer better. However, there are places in europe, where many soccer fans are still in that hooligan mindset (eg Roma fans in Italy, where even their police fear them), and bring the good things about the game down. And before you go on about soccer, you'll see english fans actually aren't that bad on a global scale.

I'm not trying to convert you byatches,, but many sports have some form of contact, that can get violent, but these are small cases

Besides, if men didn't have sport to enjoy and talk about, it would be harder for them to form bonds. Video games weren't always around.

Banning religion though, that I can agree with. Sugar, a big no.
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pendelton21 at 02/20/2009 20:28
...No - no words. No words to describe it. Poetry! They should've sent a poet.
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Projectexodus at 02/20/2009 20:31
Amazing article! I saved it!
Cough's Avatar
Cough at 02/20/2009 20:34
Nice article Mr Sterling. One question tough, what do you refer to when you say "human crush"? They falled down on the other guys? Was it intentional? It seems like an.. accident?
There are better Football examples, here in Argentina there are lots of cases, just for being a fan, wearing a team's shirt can get you beat up or killed. Not everywhere, but some of the worst neighborhoods (i'm not sure how to write that word).

You should've added music. People doing what it says on the song? Lots of cases. Videogames are more safer than any others.
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Mr Pibb at 02/20/2009 20:40
Brilliant article Jim.

@ everyone else DIGG NOW!
http://digg.com/gaming_news/Things_we_can_ban_instead_of_videogames
Jim Sterling's Avatar
Jim Sterling at 02/20/2009 20:46
Cough, the "human crush" was indeed an accident, an accident that was caused by rioting. Had the football fans decided not to cause a violent spree, it would never have happened.

TTop, football doesn't need defending here. As I stated, I'm not seriously trying to say football is evil, just providing some counter-examples of things the media DON'T demand a ban on.
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dmgi at 02/20/2009 21:01
@Naim Master & Jim

[img]img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/thegza/theclapgy0wl5.gif[/img]
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Leviticus at 02/20/2009 21:11
I seriously want to read this to people so that maybe they'll get what I'm saying when I try to explain why video games aren't terrible things. Unfortunately, despite the inherent brilliance in this article, I'm not sure if it would work or not. Maybe that's just an indication of how little faith I have in curing the ignorance of society, or if it really is as bad as I think.
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dmgi at 02/20/2009 21:35
Wow, I fail at BBCode tags.



Please work.
Cough's Avatar
Cough at 02/20/2009 22:00
@Jim: Please, i'm the last person in the world to defend football. I was just curious about that bit.
madmatt's Avatar
madmatt at 02/20/2009 22:12
Jim Sterling: The one man I would go gay for.

Keep up the good work!
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Paul Soth at 02/20/2009 22:42
I live in Columbus. Here, (American) Football causes people to drink heavily, urinate in public, flip over cars, and set things on fire.
falinter's Avatar
falinter at 02/20/2009 23:49
OH Jim your articles bring my heart joy.
Good read.
Spork's Avatar
Spork at 02/20/2009 23:49
Incredibly written. Though not scientific there's not much point in trying to go that direction when the "opposition" of the argument never do. This get's the point across clearly enough, and it does it beautifully.

Thank you, Lord Sterling.
pixelpunx's Avatar
pixelpunx at 02/20/2009 23:55
I wonder how many deaths the internet has caused.
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whormongr at 02/21/2009 00:19
one you forgot to add- automobiles- 31,110 deaths in the US in 2008


@Kan Yozakura - no, manhunt2 wasn't great- I thought it was pretty boring, not boring enough to be banned though
Loogibot's Avatar
Loogibot at 02/21/2009 01:01
Jim, you've done it again. Bravo and great job!
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Calebyte at 02/21/2009 01:17
@Jack 8274

Right, because that's not an example of the same ignorance and senseless brutality that religion is so often held responsible for.
NegFactor's Avatar
NegFactor at 02/21/2009 01:52
Well done, Mr. Sterling. Well done.
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Mr Wrighty 987 at 02/21/2009 02:36
well don jim, great read
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TheDirtyHobo at 02/21/2009 02:56
"This is not an article intended to demonize religion"

That's a lie if I've ever read one. You'll take any cheap shots you can get on religion, and plenty of your articles provide proof of that.

I understand the semi-joking nature and underlying message of the article and all, but at least admit the truth there.
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pixelpunx at 02/21/2009 03:18
@TheDirtyHobo

As if religions shouldn't be demonized...
Dr Milkdad's Avatar
Dr Milkdad at 02/21/2009 03:24
Jim Sterling I fucking love you
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XanderSan at 02/21/2009 04:07
I don't see why religion should be any more protected from criticism than anything else on the planet. Some people believe football is the most important thing in the world. Some peope think Christ is the most important thing in the world. There's no more universally important thing.

Also Jim; OH CAPTAIN, MY CAPTAIN!
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Cowboy TTop at 02/21/2009 05:48
Hey, i don't believe football is the most important thing in the world, far from it in fact. Its just another form of entertainment, which isn't for everyone, but like I always say each to their own.

religion is a different matte though, because many believe its above being questioned or criticised.

Nice one Jim, becuase while I disagree on the football thing (you'd have to throw other competitive sports in there too mind), I accept that you can criticise it and anything til the cows come home, on a burger bun, with sauce....lol.

Say the same thing about religion, and some people are ready to cut your teeth out.

Humans are crazy anyway, we are all dying, so we need some shit to cling to, til coffin time. Football, games or crazy religion, take your pick.
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