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That's good to know. Because I'm not feeling that ugly ass attachment. Ugh...really bad. Now I can play Monster Hunter without carrying around that extra weight.
The thing is, without the claw, you cant be attacking, dodging, and choosing items all at the same time while keeping the monster centered in your view while its running around you.
The claw is DAMN important if you are battling 2 Black Gravious in the arena.
The claw is DAMN important if you are battling 2 Black Gravious in the arena.
Looking forward to this and the slide pad. Was gonna get grips soon anyways, may as well just get the dreaded nub. Damn you giant hands.
really want this, though it better have online. Thank you for mentioning that the nub isn't necessary. Just about every site I read doesn't mention that and acts like you have to have it.
Still can't believe it took this long for Monster Hunter to have a "lock-on" targeting feature, but once it does, I probably won't want to look at any other version of the game again just for that.
But yeah, optional add-on is optional.
I think the problem really is people who can't think of gaming without the second stick, but that's just me. Some people were raised with two sticks, I was raised with an NES controller and that funky Atari stick with a button.
But yeah, optional add-on is optional.
I think the problem really is people who can't think of gaming without the second stick, but that's just me. Some people were raised with two sticks, I was raised with an NES controller and that funky Atari stick with a button.
Has anyone actually played Monster Hunter on PSP? Personally I didn't enjoy the lack of a second nub.
For $20, I will gladly add another nub and reap the benefits of enhanced controls. If you can "claw" for more than an hour at a time - great! I'll take a cheap alternative.
For $20, I will gladly add another nub and reap the benefits of enhanced controls. If you can "claw" for more than an hour at a time - great! I'll take a cheap alternative.
@Tristrix
Because there are some developers out there so lazy that they can't imagine themselves breaking out of the status quo, even when they could present something that is equally as effective. MonHun has that option for series purists, but at the same time, Capcom knew most players won't use the 2nd nub and intelligently designed towards the strengths of the hardware.
@Im The Singer in Symphony X
Someone extolling the virtues of the Claw? That's a first. If you absolutely must, the Claw option is still there, only the stick and D-pad are reversed from the PSP configuration.
Because there are some developers out there so lazy that they can't imagine themselves breaking out of the status quo, even when they could present something that is equally as effective. MonHun has that option for series purists, but at the same time, Capcom knew most players won't use the 2nd nub and intelligently designed towards the strengths of the hardware.
@Im The Singer in Symphony X
Someone extolling the virtues of the Claw? That's a first. If you absolutely must, the Claw option is still there, only the stick and D-pad are reversed from the PSP configuration.
Makes sense, but I'm left questioning the wisdom of that, then, given the public response to what now appears to be a totally optional accessory. Doesn't seem worth it.
So they did give in to the wishes of lock-on..Some MH elitists will surely be knocking it (until they try it.)
I'm definitely not complaining. The lock on worked fairly well in Gods Eater. That game had great combat, the rest was a fail in comparison to MH. Still liked it though.
I'm definitely not complaining. The lock on worked fairly well in Gods Eater. That game had great combat, the rest was a fail in comparison to MH. Still liked it though.
@Tristrix
It really doesn't. I'm with you. Shouldn't have been made at all.
@TurboKill
It's not a true lock-on. The camera won't automatically follow the monster. It'll just recenter the camera so the monster is in full view. An actual lock-on ability won't make attacking certain parts of a monster very difficult.
It really doesn't. I'm with you. Shouldn't have been made at all.
@TurboKill
It's not a true lock-on. The camera won't automatically follow the monster. It'll just recenter the camera so the monster is in full view. An actual lock-on ability won't make attacking certain parts of a monster very difficult.
@Tony
They seem fine - but I'll take that nub.
You also realize it adds extra functionality by way of extra shoulder buttons right? It's better, it's pennies to buy, and it will work on a number of games - no worries there.
They seem fine - but I'll take that nub.
You also realize it adds extra functionality by way of extra shoulder buttons right? It's better, it's pennies to buy, and it will work on a number of games - no worries there.
Oh I see what you mean. That's even better. A constant lock-on could turn into a clusterf*** if there are 3+ velociprey coming at you while fighting a Rathalos.
Well that's good to hear. Honestly, while I don't mind the concept of the slide pad, I kind of wished they hadn't created it solely for the reason that it would force developers to innovate control schemes rather than rely on the same old methods.
@Turbokill - I would hope there would be no one knocking lock-on features, you know, given that shit's been around for 13 years. At least as old as Zelda: OOT is.
But yeah, some people are nuts. I guess there might be some people that find a hidden virtue in no lock-on. I don't know what it is and don't care to, though.
But yeah, some people are nuts. I guess there might be some people that find a hidden virtue in no lock-on. I don't know what it is and don't care to, though.
The Second Nub Add-on is just an optional add-on that will possibly curved the the second hardware revision of the Nintendo 3DS.
It's just another thing to watch out for and see what happens next.
For me and most adults the Add on gives our hands from cringing while holding the 3DS, For others it's a stick for people who doesn't like change or other ways of control and rather have that stick.
For what it's worth this is possibly the best thing Nintendo can do for the Early adopters *unless they put the add-on for the Nintendo Club Rewards program and gives to the Ambassadors for free*
It's just another thing to watch out for and see what happens next.
For me and most adults the Add on gives our hands from cringing while holding the 3DS, For others it's a stick for people who doesn't like change or other ways of control and rather have that stick.
For what it's worth this is possibly the best thing Nintendo can do for the Early adopters *unless they put the add-on for the Nintendo Club Rewards program and gives to the Ambassadors for free*
The amount of customization on the touch screen is crazy. The game seems to be doing everything right control-wise.
@SilentProtagonist
Lock-on's fine, obviously Just talking from experience playing Gods Eater (the "MH Clone"). Once there were enough enemies it was chaos. You try to ignore the small enemies and go after the big guy then the small enemies knock you down and you get raped and vice versa.
Lock-on's fine, obviously Just talking from experience playing Gods Eater (the "MH Clone"). Once there were enough enemies it was chaos. You try to ignore the small enemies and go after the big guy then the small enemies knock you down and you get raped and vice versa.
As a MH vet, I lament the idea of "lock on" just because cut my teeth doing it the hard way. However, as a MH player, I'd most likely use it anyway out of sheer convenience.
Slide pad expansion is still hilariously, well... "Nintendo." This is the same company that released a handheld without a headphone jack. I haven't bought into the 3DS just yet anyway due to lack of games I'm personally interested in. That's going to change and I just hope by the time I'm ready they don't announce a new model two months later.
Slide pad expansion is still hilariously, well... "Nintendo." This is the same company that released a handheld without a headphone jack. I haven't bought into the 3DS just yet anyway due to lack of games I'm personally interested in. That's going to change and I just hope by the time I'm ready they don't announce a new model two months later.
All I can say is I am so glad I held off buying a 3DS because if that new SKU has a second nub its going to be short order before we start seeing games that require that "optional" nub attachment. But its ok because its optional.
First thought: Long swords, eh?
Second thought: Ooh, look - a plesioth!
Third thought: Darn, I have no frogs.
This is quite literally worth every penny I spent on my system. That is all.
Second thought: Ooh, look - a plesioth!
Third thought: Darn, I have no frogs.
This is quite literally worth every penny I spent on my system. That is all.
triptych, what handheld lacked a headphone jack...? All DS models have had them, as far as I'm aware.
Anyway, it's nice to know, though not unexpected, that the attachment isn't needed.
Anyway, it's nice to know, though not unexpected, that the attachment isn't needed.
@Excel
I don't see any fickleness, just people with different opinions. Or did you think the entire destructoid community shared the opinions of its loudest members? I thought Norm Abram was smarter than that.
I don't see any fickleness, just people with different opinions. Or did you think the entire destructoid community shared the opinions of its loudest members? I thought Norm Abram was smarter than that.
@Yukichin
The GBA SP lacked a headphone jack. You had to buy a peripheral that
plugged into the charger port or buy special, one device worth of usefulness headphones.
The GBA SP lacked a headphone jack. You had to buy a peripheral that
plugged into the charger port or buy special, one device worth of usefulness headphones.
Praising lock on = never played monhan.
Monster Hunter requires a PRECISION HIT for SPECIFIC monster parts... a lock on would permit only "centered" strikes... so it would be useless for this kind of game.
Very happy that this "auto lock" is only a "recenter" and not a "follower".
Even happier that, as i always believed, the virtual d-pad works.
Monster Hunter requires a PRECISION HIT for SPECIFIC monster parts... a lock on would permit only "centered" strikes... so it would be useless for this kind of game.
Very happy that this "auto lock" is only a "recenter" and not a "follower".
Even happier that, as i always believed, the virtual d-pad works.
In the first few seconds of the first video, you can clearly see the player INSTINCTIVELY try to use his left index finger to claw and change the camera angle. Its something that works very well, and compared to monster hunter itself, has a very shallow learning curve. 350 hours in MHFU, and I couldnt play without the claw. The claw served me well in MGS:PEACEWALKER as well.
@Ffordesoon You could always get a thumb stylus :P http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/411T3HVH0GL.jpg
The old one that was included with the DS phat made controlling Mario a lot more bearable in SM64:DS
The old one that was included with the DS phat made controlling Mario a lot more bearable in SM64:DS
Huh. The swimming still looks pretty darn awkward without a second stick, though. I think the Classic Controller Pro is what actually enabled Capcom to have swimming in Tri in the first place, no? It's SO much easier to swim in all directions when you have analogue control.
@lotuseater20
Again, touch screen camera control solves that little issue. Plus, when you are actually engaging a monster underwater, the L-button lock would come in handy, avoiding the needs to adjust the camera much if at all.
Again, touch screen camera control solves that little issue. Plus, when you are actually engaging a monster underwater, the L-button lock would come in handy, avoiding the needs to adjust the camera much if at all.
Never played a Monster Hunter game, however this one looks pretty neat now that I have seen some real footage. I think this may be the first one I try. My 3DS is in dire need of some playing.
@Mr Ponce
OH yeah. Lock on will be amazing. I kinda liked it not being there, but I know i'm totally going to use it all the time.
OH yeah. Lock on will be amazing. I kinda liked it not being there, but I know i'm totally going to use it all the time.
The Claw is impossible on the 3DS since the d-pad is below the analog stick. Although i'll take Monster Hunter any way I can get it, I still wish it was on the Vita.
I got extremely excited for this announcement until I realized it was only confirmed for Japan. I can't bring myself to get excited again unless I know I'm getting the game. =(
Sadly, I have a feeling that the US won't see MH on 3DS until 4 comes out. Though Capcom is free to prove me wrong, PLEASE prove me wrong! Nothing would give me as much of a reason to play my 3DS as an MH game would.
Sadly, I have a feeling that the US won't see MH on 3DS until 4 comes out. Though Capcom is free to prove me wrong, PLEASE prove me wrong! Nothing would give me as much of a reason to play my 3DS as an MH game would.
The touch D-pad looks like a perfectly adequate substitute in this case, but I'm with Magnalon; if I had the option to replace it with a physical nub (via add-on or waiting until the next 3DS comes out), I'd go with that.
Some of us with common sense already knew there was no issue with anything whatsoever. So sick of kids flipping out over everything NINTENDO does.
A second analog is not necessary for most games. It's just a nice layer of extra control. Somehow Metroid Prime trilogy controls better than most other FPS and there is not 2nd analog.
Nubaggedon is a perfect example of how gamers make themselves look like fucking idiots on a consistent basis.
A second analog is not necessary for most games. It's just a nice layer of extra control. Somehow Metroid Prime trilogy controls better than most other FPS and there is not 2nd analog.
Nubaggedon is a perfect example of how gamers make themselves look like fucking idiots on a consistent basis.
@Tony Ponce
That's like telling someone to control CoD with your index finger on a 360 controller. No one controls analog sticks with his fingers. I mean, people could learn, but it's ridiculous to imply that it's a simple adjustment.
That's like telling someone to control CoD with your index finger on a 360 controller. No one controls analog sticks with his fingers. I mean, people could learn, but it's ridiculous to imply that it's a simple adjustment.
@The Silent Protagonist
Hardcore fans of Monster Hunter hate lock-on, because they feel that camera control is one of the challenges to the game, and that lock-on will water down the series' difficulty.
Hardcore fans of Monster Hunter hate lock-on, because they feel that camera control is one of the challenges to the game, and that lock-on will water down the series' difficulty.
Once I saw the D-Pad on the touch screen my fears were quelled. Was Miyamoto correct all along? Plus Monster Hunter really needed to fix up the camera system any ways.
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