I wouldn't be surprised if the new xbox was just as bad with fail rates as the old one. Microsoft will completely forget about reliability in their rush to release their new system first again

So Microsoft and Nintendo might be coming out with their new systems first and Sony is just getting warmed up on their PS3. I wonder how things will roll out.

nice news i think, waiting for new Xbox
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Haha, I think MS will be out of the console business if they don't get it right this time. I just hope it won't come out until the end of 2012, I'm just not ready for a new investment.

Oh boy, the DS2, Xbox 3, Sony's in a tough spot.

2012? In before Microsoft sponsor the London Olympics.

I feel this gen is just getting started. Theres hardly any RPGs out compared to last gen and considering the price of development, there sure isn't a lot of risky games.

2012 sounds about right. This generation of consoles has much longer legs than previous ones. Backwards compatibility is crucial, though. I don't want to worry about playing my Xbox 360 years down the road and having it crap out, only to be stuck buying a used machine that I have no idea how close to dying it is.

@djinx. Not if the rumors I hear that microsoft will buy ea and run everyone else out of business ( insert evil laugh here)

Well if MS can slap in their new console one of the intel i7 chips then they would have as much power as the PS3. Now my worries is were are they going to cut corners...

Is it me? Or is that the ship from Flight of the Navigator?

I'm not ready for another gen, this one just barely took off so I would hold off on buying the new one( not to mention when ms rushes their products out to beat the competition, the RROD tends to happen, and since everyone went on. Buying 360s anyway there is really no incentive for them to change their policy)

Also I'm interested in seeing how thwy handle their format problem, were about to get rid of dvd and it seems MS is still allergic to blu-ray.

@runtheplacered

Yeah...I got the common "disc read errors" for a while on my PS2Fat, but I managed to figure out how to fix them for the most part. That worked great (just had to open the PS2 every few months and mess with the laser) until the disc drive died completely.
Second ps2 did the same thing, this time I couldn't fix it again.
I'm on a PS2-Slim now I've had for about three years, but the damn thing loads freaking slow and won't play DVD movies anymore.
Compare that to my Xbox, which I've had for about a year and a half, and it's never broken, even with near-constant playing.
Go figure.

Shadowiii:
I'm talking about the generation after the one that has yet to come, obviously I'm speculating. With the luck of having a great software collection, reforming its customer support and the fact that the first Xbox was solid, when it came to reliability, MS has managed to avoid a lot of bad PR. However, if the next one is just as unreliable, the X360 will stand as a precedent, not only legally but psychologically to a lot of customers.

I should have mentioned too that having Windows 7 and the Zune as a reference, I doubt MS will commit the same mistake.

I wouldn't be suprised if it comes with a blu-ray drive and no hd capabilities. Besides since they've dropped the HD requirement most of those games look like bad PS2 games on big screens.

That looks like an Xball instead of an Xbox. God that just made me realize how stupid the word Xbox is.

Well if anythign we have learned from the XBOX & 360 generations....Microsoft actually listens to its customers and delivers on its promises. As long as they continue to focus on the content & games and not the frilly doodads (cough...SONY)....they will do fine.

I know I will be inline day 1 to purchase whatever they come out with......but then again I am there day 1 for all systems.

In addition to no doubt winning some sort of bid war, I think it would be in Microsoft's best interest to keep the same general GPU architecture in the next xbox for the sake of backward compatibility, and the most affordable way to do that is probably to get the CPU and GPU from one place. Hell, maybe they'll be integrated together. As long as they get rid of the Fisher Price Experience I'd be happy to buy one.

I'm scared to buy a new xbox when they finally release, they'll probably have hardware failure issues up the wazoo.... well... let's hope that's not the case.

@Midgetsnowman
While the blu ray association consists of a a lot of companies now I believe the founding fathers of blu ray are phillips and sony and everyone else were just partners that joined up along the way if memory serves me correctly. Its safe to say sony has a heavy say in what happens concerning the product.

Thers also another issue in that MS (and toshiba)was offered a chance to settle the whole blu ray HD dvd and turned it down, so if they do want blu ray now it seems they would have to clear some bad blood first(that's not exactly something MS is know for).

Sony wasn't the only company they pissed off when they did that,A lot companies had to burn money fighting that HD svs blu ray fight and thanks to the recession I doubt they made it back. So as far as the blue ray association is concerned they might have more enemies than freinds there.

But I do think sony would license blu ray to MS, they would just get the short end of the stick as far as royalties are concerned.Somthing that's pretty bad for MS because if they get shorted to much they will end up fueling a lot of their rivals productions, damn near ensuring sony would have superiority any way you slice it.MS made their console to have influence in the gaming world, not give it to another company.

So blu ray sounds like the obvious option but don't be surprised if MS's new machine is download only or still using DVDs,cause the blu ray path is inaccesable to them at the moment and the toll might be to high a price for them to pay.


And the kessin of the day: don't burn bridges you have to use.

@ PhazonYoshi

You think so? If anything I think the next generation of consoles will be worse. Consumers have showed that they can get away with making junk hardware. Why would they change?