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The Xbox Exodus: How the PS3 could become a promised land photo

As Xbox Live continues being a disaster, providing headaches for gamers everywhere, tension is running high. A trip to the Xbox.com forums shows gamers with pitchforks and torches, storming the company's virtual castle and demanding satisfaction for their stressful gaming experiences. As people becme increasingly frustrated with Microsoft's XBL problems and shoddy hardware, all that Microsoft can do is shrug its shoulders and say "we know, we're great."

Why should it do more than that, though? It's not like these angry customers are cancelling their subscriptions in droves and going over to Sony. The Xbox 360 currently has very little to fear in terms of customer retaliation because it's still the best thing on the menu, despite leaving a bitter taste.

What if, however, something more palatable finally arrived? What if Sony cooked us a meal so delicious, it took away the aftertaste of yet another Red Ring of Death mixed in with another session of Halo 3 that saw you get booted halfway through? What if we stopped all these food metaphors? After the jump, I explain how we could one day see an "Xbox Exodus," a time when people finally have an opportunity to go elsewhere and a day when a true rival emerges.

It is safe to say that the Xbox 360, despite becoming the console of choice for core gamers, having the highest software attach rate of the current generation, and generally being a decent piece of kit, has had its fair share of problems. In fact if we're being honest, the issues that gamers have had with this system have been abysmal. Between shocking hardware failures, bad customer service and a multitude of concerns over Microsoft's crown jewel, Xbox Live, it can sometimes feel like gaming with the 360 is tantamount to very hard, very stressful work.

I had a PS2, and even though there were tales of its hardware failures, I never experienced a problem and it still runs after all these years in my brother's house. I've owned GameCubes, Megadrives, all manner of systems, and never once have I had a problem -- until I bought an Xbox 360. First I managed to buy a (brand new) console that had been flagged for banning on Live, then I bought two in succession that had disc read errors. Even without hardware problems, I've had issues with shoddy customer service, bad discs and the recent Xbox Live faiure that has made a multitude of players very angry indeed. This is my fourth console ... and that makes me one of the lucky ones.

Yet for all the problems, we keep going back to Microsoft like battered wives, and why? Most consumers would have given up after the first broken console, let alone the fourth, the sixth, or even the eighth. The answer of course, is simple. While most consumers would indeed switch loyalties to the competition, Microsoft HAS no competition. As I read complaint after complaint from enraged gamers who couldn't enjoy a crippled Xbox Live during the holidays, one running theme was found in their complaints -- If the PS3 provided everything the 360 did, these people would have given up on Microsoft by now. 

That led me to a very interesting thought -- when/if Sony finally gets its act together and the PlayStation 3 starts proving to be a significant rival, will we see a mass exodus as burned gamers move away from the 360 and return home to Sony?

Let's face it, if the PS3 were anything like the PS2, we'd all own one by now, without question. The PlayStation 2 was, and in many ways still is, the best console out there. Affordable, easy to use and with a huge library of games, it was always a wonderful machine, even with its faults. In many ways, it is the Xbox 360 that has essentially become the new PlayStation 2. Where the 360 differs, however, is in the sheer amount of headaches it can cause for gamers, people who by now have expected technology (especially technology costing hundreds of dollars) to make their lives more convenient, not provide hindrance and anguish.

However, it's a pain we must endure, because for all its faults, the Xbox 360 is the only complete package right now. Providing a wide plethora of games, an as-yet unmatched online console service, and pure accessibility, it's a simple fact that the 360 has what the core gamer wants. Both the PS3 and the Wii are fine machines in their own respective ways, but they currently lack the kind of pure gaming potential that we crave. The software attach rates alone show this.

But what if the PlayStation 3 started to give the majority of gamers what they wanted? A solid core of first party exclusives flanked by third party titles that looked better and played better, a PlayStation Network that was as lively and had the same type of killer multiplayer titles as Xbox Live, and a price point that most consumers found acceptable. With both the extra technical power and the comparatively robust, more trustworthy hardware behind it, would you be tempted to give Microsoft the finger and return to the Sony camp you once so lovingly danced in?

The PlayStation 3 needs to do three things (all no-brainers) in order to become a viable alternative choice: It needs to be less expensive, it needs a bigger game library and it needs a PlayStation Network that can match Xbox Live. The first speaks for itself and will come with time. As for the second, this is another issue that will hopefully be resolved as the months pass. This year sees at least one important release for Sony's console -- Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots. Whether this will remain exclusive or not, for the moment it is officially only going to be available on the PS3 and that is going to give the machine some leverage in 2008. One big title simply isn't enough however, and MGS is no mainstream system pusher like Halo 3, as much as I prefer MGS. Those waiting for a huge library of killer titles from Sony are going to just have to be patient.

As for the PlayStation Network, this is where things could get interesting. Right now, those who argue that the PSN is already superior do so on one major point -- it's free. While this is true, millions still pay for Xbox Live, and it's simply because Xbox Live offers more for the money. You can play more games and you have more people to play against. The PS3 has very little in comparison, and this is why it's free -- it's simply not a service worth exchanging money for. However, should it improve, Sony will charge for it. Those gamers currently showing off that the PSN is free will have to swallow a bitter pill if and when the service finally becomes worth paying for. If you believe that Sony won't charge for something that people would willingly buy, then you are very naive.

But the question is this: Will the PlayStation Network ever be worth money? Right now, it simply is not and Sony knows this because it's not charging. Furthermore, it does seem that western companies make more strides in online console gaming than Japanese ones. Nintendo took years to adapt to the idea of online games, as the Wii makes baby steps, and Sony's consoles have never had a strong presence on the Internet. In contrast, western console developers are the frontrunners in online gaming -- Rainbow Six, Gears of War, Halo, Call of Duty -- all western.

However, the advent of Home and Metal Gear Online should go some ways to bridging the gap, and from there, it just needs some good developers to back the service even more. The PSN has all the tools to make it, provided the people behind the wheel are paying attention and keeping their hands on the wheel. If Sony makes the PlayStation Network into a service that people value and will break out their credit cards for, then I think it will be the sign that Sony has arrived to bite back at Microsoft.

Which leads me back to the question at hand. If the PS3 ticks the right boxes and the PlayStation Network becomes a worthy rival to Xbox Live, will people put down their 360 controllers and embrace Blu-ray en masse? It's hard to tell for sure, but right now I'm going to say there's a strong possibility that an exodus of sorts could happen. Right now, Microsoft doesn't have to do anything to provide an excellent service, because gamers have nowhere else to go. However, people are neither forgetting nor forgiving, and resentment toward Microsoft bubbles under the surface of many gamertags. It is, in fact, very possible that some customers are just waiting for the day that the PlayStation 3 becomes something they want. I certainly am waiting for such a day.

The trust and loyalty of gamers can be a weak currency, and it's one that Microsoft has been spending with wanton abandon. As it does so, however, Sony still lives, and this generation still has everything to play for. While Sony has faltered and floundered, its potential is unquestionable and its rise to power is still attainable. 2008 is said by some to the be the year that the true power of the console is revealed, while the Xbox 360 seems to have only flaws left to show us. For Microsoft, the clock is ticking, and while it may be impossible right now to predict where this generation will ultimately lead us, it's quite clear that the Xbox 360 has a lot of customers just waiting for another option, and a rival that has the means to provide that very rival.


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Eschatos's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/05/2008 11:55
Eschatos
It's possible, but unlikely. They'll get the problems fixed shortly, and everyone will be back to normal.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/05/2008 11:56
Jim Sterling
Eschatos: No way you read the whole thing that quick. :-)
Eschatos's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/05/2008 11:58
Eschatos
Yes way. I am a ninja of reading.
BahamutZero's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/05/2008 12:05
BahamutZero
Jim I was working on a blog about this, but didnt want to encourage diseasefactory or action bastard... anyway, live has been really pissing me off recently, I mean I could never leave her but I am very glad I got a ps3. It definitely helped push the decision to sooner rather than later, plus the blurays...
Juggernaut's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/05/2008 12:05
Juggernaut
Yes. If the PS3 becomes the Xbox 360 with a better Xbox LIVE then everyone would buy one. But that is just a 360 without LIVE's technical problems (which are by the way, incredibly blown out of proportion and annoying to read about.) So I guess no, it will never happen.
007's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/05/2008 12:05
007
...Yeah, I see myself looking at getting a PS3 these days. Most people (including me) think that what makes the 360 unique is it's online. Halo was fun and all, but could we REALLY see it being a hit without it's multiplayer? Unless M$ can actually fix their Live problems, they might end up being screwed.
Y0j1mb0's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/05/2008 12:05
Y0j1mb0
Very eloquent Jim. I'm sensing a shift in perception when it comes to the PS3. A few of my friends who have Xbox360s caved in this Christmas and got one. With more exclusive titles in 2008 it will pick up steam..but they have a ways to go.

The simple things in their online offerings are not there yet. XMB in game still not realized?..and what of Home?..is it going to be all they say it is or is it Barbie dressup?

I for one will be waiting for that hammer that Sony needs to drop to do so.
Juggernaut's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/05/2008 12:07
Juggernaut
@007: You really think Microsoft hasn't been working to fix the problem? You think they are going to let Xbox LIVE stay this way forever?
Samit Sarkar's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/05/2008 12:10
Samit Sarkar
Well, as a PS3 owner, I’m satisfied with what the PSN offers at the moment, considering it’s free. But I’m not happy. I want in-game XMB access, among other things — I shouldn’t have to quit out of a game just to read a message that a friend sent me. But Sony’s getting there, and it seems like they value the input of their consumers (case in point: “we’re listening” comments on the PlayStation.Blog).

As much as I would love for the PSN to stay free, I’m assuming that it will one day be a pay service, though I wonder if Sony will one-up Microsoft and not force gamers to pay in order to play online. Sure, they can charge a subscription for the content that I assume they’ll eventually put up — movies, music, and the like — but it’ll be really hard for Sony to start charging PS3 owners, especially considering that they’ve been touting the PSN for its low, low price of $0.00 per year. That goes double for those like me who have been gaming online for free from the start — it would really suck to lose the ability to play online for free. Then again, there’s not much else they can really tout about the PSN, so...

Still, I think the price point is okay for now. Not ideal, but okay. $400 is a fair price for the tech you’re getting, and you can bet that sales will spike now that 70% of the studios are Blu-ray exclusive. If Sony can drop the price to $349 (or even lower) by the end of the year, they’ll do very well in Holiday 2008, considering the online multiplayer library that they’ll hopefully have built up by then (MGS 4, Killzone 2, Little BigPlanet, and, of course, Home, even though it’s still a somewhat unknown quantity).
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/05/2008 12:10
Jim Sterling
Yeah, Live will definitely get fixed. It's just gonna leave a sour taste, and MS has kinda shown incompetence with the downtime.
DizzleLeep's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/05/2008 12:12
DizzleLeep
Live was also leaving a bad taste in my mouth. I have had live problems for 6 weeks. So I went out and got PS3, so far I'm pretty happy with. Nice sleek machine.
astrofox's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/05/2008 12:12
astrofox
Respectfully, I think you sell the PS3 a little short. Sure the PSN doesn't have the community features of live, but I can still play against my buddies online with some stellar games. I consider Warhawk one of the best online games period.

Personally I was going to buy a 360, but cannot stand spotty reliability. I bought a PS3 in March and as of this Christmas I am very glad I did.

So I guess you can consider me part of your exodus.
Yashoki's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/05/2008 12:14
Yashoki
The PS3 has so much potential, too bad sony PR is a bunch of jerkoffs who need to stuff a sock in their mouth.

I'm really looking forward to the PS3 being a real contender, once that happens we'll see some awesome stuff come from both Sony and Microsoft.
iNerd's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/05/2008 12:14
iNerd
You've actually managed to convince me that I really don't need to buy a 360, and for this I thank you. While its true in a way that Japanese companies don't seem to have embraced online yet you have to wonder what would happen if companies from Korea started to address making games for consoles more seriously, there is definate potential for the PS3 network to become a rival to live. What would be even more interesting to see would be a use of google's attempts at making a web standard social networking API and integrating that into any gaming service so that these fractured offering could be joined into one cohesive service. Sure having the ability to see gamers online for a console is one thing by why not take that one step further to best them and have it for anything?
007's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/05/2008 12:18
007
@ juggernaut
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Juggernaut's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/05/2008 12:19
Juggernaut
@Jim: Do you think many gamers and bloggers are over reacting and blowing this way out of proportion? To me it almost looks like the celebrity blogs that over react about every little thing a celebrity does blowing everything out of proportion with wild speculation. Thankfully at Destructoid we don't have to deal with the ridiculous "XBL outage watch" some sites are doing.
TheStripe's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/05/2008 12:21
TheStripe
"it can sometimes feel like gaming with the 360 is tantamount to very hard, very stressful work."

Still easier than PC gaming.

"Yet for all the problems, we keep going back to Microsoft like battered wives, and why?"

Bioshock.

Is this some kind of make-up post for the flamewar that started in the MGS4 exclusivity post? ;)

Honestly, though, I've always admitted I'd eventually have one of Sony's gargantuan shiny black boxes. I'm still consistently non-plussed by the mid-90's website feel of PSN, and the foreknowledge that PSN will be a pay-to-play service as soon as it's worth it.

Mostly, as long as Smash Bros works well online, I could give a fuckall if Live goes down the shitter and PSN never makes it out. I get tired of all the whiney bitches calling everyone gay in each and every shooter I play on Live. At least you won't hear those little pricks screaming "gaywad!!!!111eleventy1" at the TV when you smash them off the screen.
l0cke's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/05/2008 12:22
l0cke
This is why I like PC, if there is a problem I can fix it myself, rather then take 6 months to send it to M$. I do want one of those PSTriples though.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/05/2008 12:22
Jim Sterling
Juggernaut: Yeah I think there's definitely some over-reaction going on. My complaint, however, stems from the fact that this is one in a long line of problems. On its own, it's really not worth screaming and moaning about, but with everything else, it's really testing my patience.
joemoemino's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/05/2008 12:22
joemoemino
Unless there is a replacement for Halo, a controller that doesnt feel like it was made for kids, and all my friends had one also, I wouldnt ever switch over.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/05/2008 12:24
Jim Sterling
"Is this some kind of make-up post for the flamewar that started in the MGS4 exclusivity post? ;) "

Haha, now when have I ever made up for that? I'd actually halfway written this before I wrote that other story up. Kinda makes those stupid "omg such anti-Sony bias" conspiracy theorists look a little dumb though.
zaqu's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/05/2008 12:25
zaqu
so far ive experienced the PSN being better than live even when live acts normal and, everything for the most part is free.

only thing it doesnt have that M$ does is that video service
Sgt Cheesecake's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/05/2008 12:26
Sgt Cheesecake
A system's a system. If it's got what I need, I'm going to go for it. Right now, the 360 is where it's at. Even with the problems Live is having right now, i'm enjoying my console. Having to deal with only a Wii and the slew of shit games (and the rare diamond in shit) really had me wanting for something else.

I'm not against getting a PS3 totally, i'm just waiting until it seems like it has something to really offer me.

And no, i'm not going to drop any systems for it. I still play my Wii and my Dreamcast alongside my new 360. And once the Playstation 3 becomes a part of my library of hardware, it will then have its place and time.
ghost psalm777's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/05/2008 12:28
ghost psalm777
I agree with one of the above posters that the XBL issues recently are being blown way out of proportion. I've had my account since the launch of the service and this is the first time I've had any sort of connection issues.

Actually didn't mind it since I was on vacation and had a chance to catch up on some single player games but that's just me.

Also the scenario in the article was abunch of "what if" daydreaming on the part of Sony. In a perfect world that's what would happen but then again in a perfect world it would come with a bj as well.
TheStripe's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/05/2008 12:29
TheStripe
A little?
Juggernaut's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/05/2008 12:29
Juggernaut
@Jim: Very true, the hardware problems 360 users face is too numerous to count. MSoft really did drop the ball with the RRoD and disc read errors (I've had both). As long as they continue to deliver great content and do a little XBL house cleaning I don't think there will ever more PS3 users than 360 users.
Magesx's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/05/2008 12:29
Magesx
Having never really played on Live, what exactly does it have that's worth spending money compared to PSN? I know it has an ingame menu and stuff like that, but what else?
Samit Sarkar's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/05/2008 12:30
Samit Sarkar
@joemoemino: Admittedly, the SIXAXIS is feathery-light, but I’m sure the DualShock 3 (whenever it makes its way across the vast Pacific Ocean to America) will feel much more substantial in the hands.
Jim's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/05/2008 12:31
Jim
<i>I had a PS2, and even though there were tales of its hardware failures, I never experienced a problem and it still runs after all these years in my brother's house. I've owned GameCubes, Megadrives, all manner of systems, and never once have I had a problem -- until I bought an Xbox 360.</i>

(while I acknowledge that Xbox 360 is the faultiest console with probably 1/3 hardware failures)

I'm on my fourth PS2. First one, dead laser after launch. (replaced by Sony for $50) Second one, dead DVD-drive a year later (replaced by Sony for 80$). Third one, dead DVD-drive too (got nothing because out of warranty). Fourth one (Silver Ed. for 200$) is fine.

At least Xbox 360 has an extended warranty, and my on launch day bought one runs 8 to 12h sometimes, never gets hot or stuff and has no problems --except that I don't like its loud drive. So?
Mongrel's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/05/2008 12:34
Mongrel
I don't think i agree with your xbox exodus, i think you are overestimating the amount of people pissed off with the service. Yeah, the downtimes have been shitty, but once they get it fixed and the free game comes out (which will probably suck) i think people will for the most part forget about it. I still don't think the ps3 has enough of any software (even with mgs, lbp, killzone etc) to attract any kind of mainstream. The xbox has had some pretty special games come out since its launch and we were still shitting on it then. I've been borrowing a ps3 from a buddy as of late, and wow. The interface is just ugly, not to mention the console is full of cat hair.
Yeah, i think the ps3 will eventually come into its own, but i dont think people are ready to just "abandon" this investment they made less than 2 short years ago.
Samit Sarkar's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/05/2008 12:35
Samit Sarkar
@Jim: Well, everyone is going to have different experiences, but in general, it’s acknowledged that there were massive hardware failures with the PS2, and there are massive hardware failures with the 360. I mean, my launch-era PS2 (bought 12/27/2000) is still going strong — I played Guitar Hero II on it just a few months ago. Granted, about two years into its lifetime, I had to open the unit up and clean off/adjust the laser to get rid of the infamous Disc Read Error — but other than that, I haven’t had any issues with it.
bleep's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/05/2008 12:37
bleep
You mentioned the PS3 having Blu-Ray which is indeed the cheapest HD player at the moment, but Im sure you heard rumors that at the CES, two days from now, Bill Gates will unveil a new 360 thats able to play HD DVD, so thats one less thing the PS3 can do that the 360 can't. But in regard to the online capability of the 360....Home might just be awesome...who knows? I know I thought I would be getting a PS3 before either it or the 360 were avail. due to the professed capacity of the cell processor.
TheStripe's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/05/2008 12:37
TheStripe
@ Mongrel - I don't think all of them come with cat hair.
brainderailment's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/05/2008 12:39
brainderailment
I think the overall experience of the xbox360 is leaving people exhausted because of the problems with both hardware reliability and online issues. If PSN gets all crappy one weekend, they can't really complain because they aren't paying for it, but for live being paid for by millions, it's really unacceptable.

I think AN exodus has started, but I don't think it will be too large.
Samit Sarkar's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/05/2008 12:40
Samit Sarkar
@Mongrel: Well, the interface is a subjective thing. The XMB is an interface that’s common on a lot of Sony products, and I, for one, find it wonderfully minimalist. But I can totally understand if it’s not your thing.
vexed alex's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/05/2008 12:41
vexed alex
Another amazing read, Jim. I cannot say I am dissatisfied with my 360 because the only problems I have ever had were the recent Live fuck ups, but that is just me. Of course, I am scared that one day my system will eventually bite the dust. And I shouldnt be.

On the PS3 thing, you make some great points. I love western games. That is what I enjoy playing, and I do see Sony trying to embrace that with Metal Gear Solid looking more westernized and games like Uncharted and Killzone. I would like to own a PS3, but I cannot pay full price for it. I know I will feel buyers remorse if I do. That is why Im waiting for my friend to sell me his.

:)

P.S.
Fucking Firefox wont let me use apostrophes! It keeps making "quicksearch" pop up when I try and do it.
Corak's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/05/2008 12:43
Corak
Good read Jim, I always enjoy your commentary pieces. As a PS3 owner I can definatly see your points here. When and if Sony improves the PSN to rival that of Live then yes they will charge for it, and if/when that day comes I will happily pay a monthly fee to use the service...if its good.

1 problem is that 360 owners have a shit-ton of games as you said in their software attach rates. If I put myself in that situation, with a faulty hardware system, but a ton of games it would be hard for me to make that switch. It would be expensive, and I would have to weigh that initial expense to my 360 woes. However, if I had a terrible experience i.e. multiple hardware failures and crummy customer service then yea I could see switching if both were equal. But like you said at the moment the 360 has a more complete package than the PS3. It's a running theme for Microsoft. The only reason I haven't switched to a Mac is because all of the programs I use, games, and some other stuff are made for PC and not for Mac. If both were equal I definatly would have tried a Mac by now.

I think if both systems were on an equal playing field, cost, online functionality, etc. Then this generation could have been a lot different, and in a way we could see a shift at some point, but an Exodus? Hard for me to picture. PS3 owners are waiting Sony, we've been good boys/gals for the most part. The system is capable of so much. All they need to do is deliver it to the promised land.
Don Other's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/05/2008 12:44
Don Other
This is one of Jim's more interesting articles. (No offense Jim)

I hate to see it being about PS3 versus 360 and that whole piece of shit argument, but it does make sense that those 360 owners out there who haven't tattooed Microsoft on their arms yet might switch over to "Sony land".

The way I see it, of all three things there's only one that needs to be improved for the Playstation3 to be much more appealing.
-Lower price point: Check, it's not that high anymore and more price drops will obviously come.
-Better/Bigger games library: With the recent push of games looking equal on PS3 (maybe even better) awesome games like CoD4, Burnout and DMC4 don't make you say "oh I should defiantly get that on 360". Also the PS3 does have promise coming down the road this year especially. There's even some FFV13 and GoW3 lingering in 09. So there are a lot of great games coming actually. So Check.
-Better online service: This is what stands out to me as a weakness against live. This is where Sony needs to put some work asap imo.

So the way I see it, Jim, all it might take a revamped PSN to start doing the trick? It may not be instant but after more exclusives are released and if PSN isn't as disappointing to me as it is sometimes, you think the "Exodus" will start happening?
wardrox's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/05/2008 12:48
wardrox
went and bought a PS3

consumer power (or consumer whore, your choice)
vexed alex's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/05/2008 12:51
vexed alex
Also, if I was Jim and I had that many problems, I would switch in a heart beat. Getting banned off Live for no reason is the most ass shit ever.
Brock_Dainjer's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/05/2008 12:52
Brock_Dainjer
Sadly for sony, the PSN is years behind the infrastructure that XBL has worked so hard to create. Yea, it was a little shitty around the holidays, but now that there's 17.7 million xbox's in the world, the network is bound to take a hit. Things like this happen, and they admitted the failure. A couple of shitty weeks, and people are all up in arms against the hands down best online service and a massively superior library of games? Suck it up, ladies.
MaxVest's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/05/2008 12:55
MaxVest
I think the fact that I bought a PS3 is an indicator 360 finally has some competition, because like most consumers I am not cutting-edge. I'm not a big fan of shooters, I don't play online a whole lot, and when I do, I tend to go PC.

Basically I saw a 360 Halo Edition next to a 40GB PS3 for the same price in Best Buy, and ran a quick price/feature comparison. To equip the 360 like a PS3, I was looking at a $179 HD-DVD, anywhere from $50-$150 in LIVE fees over the lifetime, extra mark-up for proprietary accessories and upgrades -- not to mention that I cannot stand unreliable electronics gear (otherwise I would already have a 360). By the time the 360 cost double what the PS3 did, I just couldn't justify dropping the cash.

Does the 360 have a superior games library and online experience? Unquestionably. But for my purposes, was that worth double? I ended up deciding no, and made a bet that other people would start feeling the same way.

Although I still want a 360... what's wrong with me??
Churchhills Dog's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/05/2008 12:55
Churchhills Dog
after dealing with the RRoD a few months ago now my Disc Drive is not functioning properly. it takes sometimes 10 tries (eject, in, eject, in, eject, in, etc) before the laser will read the disc and spins the drive up to speed. It also sounds like a moose dying of emphysema.
foxhound009's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/05/2008 12:58
foxhound009
@Jim:

fourth ps2 :OO ??? what a hell are you doing with it??
I've got mine like 4-5 years with hardcore gaming/movie watching
I had never experienced any failure (hardcore gaming for me is 9-12 hours)...
BahamutZero's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/05/2008 13:03
BahamutZero
fox I also had similar problems with the ps2... the dreaded "disc read error" killed a bunch of mine
BahamutZero's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/05/2008 13:05
BahamutZero
dronkmonk that was a good article
IceMax's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/05/2008 13:05
IceMax
I honestly want a PS3 for so many reasons, but the price the 80gb and the gimpness of the 40gb as well as Sonys attitudes at times makes me not want it so much.
ghost psalm777's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/05/2008 13:07
ghost psalm777
I've never had an issue with my 360 and had since little after launch but for me to deny others have hardware issues is just crazy. In college my roommates and I had three ps2's stacked on top of each in the living room. One could read ps1 games but the others couldn't, another could read blue bottom discs but not the other two, one you could watch movies on, etc. To say the least it could get confusing.
brobots's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/05/2008 13:09
brobots
My confidence in Microsoft wanes with every passing day. I already have a PS3, but my only experience with the PSN is Warhawk, and it's definitely a blast. And I love being able to play it while Xbox Live remains Xbox Dead. The problem with the 360 is that its in absolutes. It's simultaneously the best and worst console I've ever owned. We, as gamers, are confused. The games (basically everything NOT handled by MS) are top of the line, but the hardware (basically everything handled BY MS) is abysmal.
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