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Lol a majority of XBL. Oh hay, btw the game came out on PC too. I hear they like it there. But I guess that means it doesn't count as a real game these days.
dont forget that a majority of xbox live thinks that everyone is a fag. xbox live activity would have to be by far the last place i look when judging a games quality.
Well I don't agree with your choice, but to each their own. I thought MGS4 was a more complete package than L4D. And I did think Braid would get chosen over this.
As much as i love Left 4 Dead currently i feel like there's no way it would have won if it came out in January of 2008.
so....is goty judged by what you like/play the most or is it the BEST game, even if you may not enjoy it the most.
If it goes by BEST game...how does mgs4 not win? im a xbox fanboy and i can even realize that mgs4 is superior in all categories that are looked at when reviewing/rating a game.
get real...you just lost all credibility.
If it goes by BEST game...how does mgs4 not win? im a xbox fanboy and i can even realize that mgs4 is superior in all categories that are looked at when reviewing/rating a game.
get real...you just lost all credibility.
When I take my opinions from xbox live...I'll fucking kill myself.
Also, I agree fully with Sharpless. He should play L4D with me tonight.
Also, I agree fully with Sharpless. He should play L4D with me tonight.
If you seriously base your GOTY choice on graphics you are an idiot. Left 4 dead is a blast if you haven't played it you are missing out that is for sure. If you say it is a mod then you can say any game based on the Unreal engine 3 is just a mod. Same gaming engine does not mean it is a mod of another game.
@SephirothX
Dude, that's not what you said. YOU said "a majority of the community thinks Destructoid is 'meh' at best..."
That has nothing to do with what XBox live thinks about L4D...
Additionally, basing what "XBox Live players think is 'meh'" on the activity charts, doesn't make a lot of sense. GoW2 is a hugely hyped sequel, and sold more than L4D, so of course it's going to be higher. Everyone I know playing L4D on live thinks it's brilliant.
Personally, my single player GOTY is Fallout 3.
My multiplayer pick is Castle Crashers (yeah there are online problems, but for me, this was an incredible 4-player couch co-op experience.)
I'm surprised to see Lost Odyssey on the list. I had heard nothing but disappointment about it, so I never purchased it. I might play it in 2009 if I can find a good deal for it.
I haven't played Braid yet, though I've been meaning too since release..
MGS4 is not on my list. Any game that makes me actually get angry and yell at the TV going "Are you fucking SERIOUS!? Another fucking cutscene? Jesus Christ!" is not a personal GOTY. I've never been a big fan of the series though, it just makes less and less sense everytime...
Dude, that's not what you said. YOU said "a majority of the community thinks Destructoid is 'meh' at best..."
That has nothing to do with what XBox live thinks about L4D...
Additionally, basing what "XBox Live players think is 'meh'" on the activity charts, doesn't make a lot of sense. GoW2 is a hugely hyped sequel, and sold more than L4D, so of course it's going to be higher. Everyone I know playing L4D on live thinks it's brilliant.
Personally, my single player GOTY is Fallout 3.
My multiplayer pick is Castle Crashers (yeah there are online problems, but for me, this was an incredible 4-player couch co-op experience.)
I'm surprised to see Lost Odyssey on the list. I had heard nothing but disappointment about it, so I never purchased it. I might play it in 2009 if I can find a good deal for it.
I haven't played Braid yet, though I've been meaning too since release..
MGS4 is not on my list. Any game that makes me actually get angry and yell at the TV going "Are you fucking SERIOUS!? Another fucking cutscene? Jesus Christ!" is not a personal GOTY. I've never been a big fan of the series though, it just makes less and less sense everytime...
And while I'm being a Valve fanboy, I feel like arguing SephirothX point-by-point:
Graphics: Irrelevant. Only graphics whores would let more-or-less average graphics stand in the way of their enjoyment of a game.
Controls: The controls are fine. I have no idea what you're talking about.
Length: It's short, yes, but it's meant to be replayed with friends, and no two playthroughs will ever be exactly the same anyway. PC gamers (at least) will get free content added on later, as well.
4-player Co-op: Halo 3 may have had it, but it didn't do anything interesting with it. Your teammates were irrelevant in H3. L4D creates a true co-op experience, forcing you to absolutely rely on your teammates. Without them, you're dead. In H3, without them, you just get more kills, and- Oh, wait. They respawn almost instantly. Right. Real interesting.
Versus Mode: Sadly, they could've expanded on this more than they did.
Lots of Zombies: Ever encounter the horde? Yeah. Just because not every single inch of real estate is covered in zombies, that doesn't mean there's an inadequate number of them. And the areas without any zombies only serve as warnings for the rape-traps ahead.
Zombies Attacking from Different Spawns: I'm going to go with Zombutler's response and ask if you're brain damaged. There is no comparison between L4D and COD5.
Graphics: Irrelevant. Only graphics whores would let more-or-less average graphics stand in the way of their enjoyment of a game.
Controls: The controls are fine. I have no idea what you're talking about.
Length: It's short, yes, but it's meant to be replayed with friends, and no two playthroughs will ever be exactly the same anyway. PC gamers (at least) will get free content added on later, as well.
4-player Co-op: Halo 3 may have had it, but it didn't do anything interesting with it. Your teammates were irrelevant in H3. L4D creates a true co-op experience, forcing you to absolutely rely on your teammates. Without them, you're dead. In H3, without them, you just get more kills, and- Oh, wait. They respawn almost instantly. Right. Real interesting.
Versus Mode: Sadly, they could've expanded on this more than they did.
Lots of Zombies: Ever encounter the horde? Yeah. Just because not every single inch of real estate is covered in zombies, that doesn't mean there's an inadequate number of them. And the areas without any zombies only serve as warnings for the rape-traps ahead.
Zombies Attacking from Different Spawns: I'm going to go with Zombutler's response and ask if you're brain damaged. There is no comparison between L4D and COD5.
I don't get some of the bitterness about this decision - this is just the overall choice of the Dtoid editorial team, that's IT.
It's not an announcement which is going to make one iota of difference to your life (unless maybe you decide to check out L4D as a result of reading it). I'm pleased that Dtoid didn't make a choice based on what they thought "should" win rather than what they personally enjoyed the most, on average across all the writers.
Personally, GTA4 and MGS4 both rocked my world this year but I still can't shake off the feeling that LBP, for all its flaws, was the most significant release in 2008. I honestly believe that in the long run it will be remembered longer than any other game released this year
It's not an announcement which is going to make one iota of difference to your life (unless maybe you decide to check out L4D as a result of reading it). I'm pleased that Dtoid didn't make a choice based on what they thought "should" win rather than what they personally enjoyed the most, on average across all the writers.
Personally, GTA4 and MGS4 both rocked my world this year but I still can't shake off the feeling that LBP, for all its flaws, was the most significant release in 2008. I honestly believe that in the long run it will be remembered longer than any other game released this year
Just LOL @SephirothX for thinking he can state a bunch of opinions as 'simple facts'.
Actually, Braid was my game of the year - until Left 4 Dead came along. Can't you just accept the ACTUAL 'simple fact' that LOADS of people thought L4D is absolutely stunning and you don't happen to be one of them?
Actually, Braid was my game of the year - until Left 4 Dead came along. Can't you just accept the ACTUAL 'simple fact' that LOADS of people thought L4D is absolutely stunning and you don't happen to be one of them?
People that dont like this game and think its too short obviously havent experienced the joy of playing the game on expert and having your friends scream into your ear for help while theyre being dragged away by a smoker, puked on by a boomer, and ripped to bits by a hunter just as the tank arrives.
Saying L4D uses the same engine as HL2 or CSS is like saying Crysis uses the same engine as Farcry. Sure, they both have the same name and they both work in the same way, but it's not like they just took the Hl2 engine and said "Okay, it's finished, let's not work on it at all anymore"
Bah!
I don't fault anyone for loving the game but BAH!
MGS 4 has it hard though because you really have to have played all the other games in order to get the best experience out of 4.
That said (and as someone above also said), MGS4 is the only game that gave me goosebumps this year. And seriously, you'll remember MGS4 as a better game further down the road than you will L4D. It's a fun game, but I haven't found it to be very memorable.
I don't fault anyone for loving the game but BAH!
MGS 4 has it hard though because you really have to have played all the other games in order to get the best experience out of 4.
That said (and as someone above also said), MGS4 is the only game that gave me goosebumps this year. And seriously, you'll remember MGS4 as a better game further down the road than you will L4D. It's a fun game, but I haven't found it to be very memorable.
*clap* *clap* It's nice to see a GOOD games win GOTY for once.(not saying all other gotys are bad games just some only got the title because of sales or hype of some other bs like that.)
FYI l0cke Farcry uses the CryEngine 1
Crysis uses CryEngine 2
HL2 and L4D both use the Source engine, so I would say arguing that they both use the same engine is not such an odd point.
L4D even inherited Valves stupid habit of spending 90% of the polygons on the character models which in return makes the levels all look very blocky and not at all look organic.
Crysis uses CryEngine 2
HL2 and L4D both use the Source engine, so I would say arguing that they both use the same engine is not such an odd point.
L4D even inherited Valves stupid habit of spending 90% of the polygons on the character models which in return makes the levels all look very blocky and not at all look organic.
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!!!
I haven't even played L4D so I can't comment, but seriously, I'd expect this at IGN, not here...
I haven't even played L4D so I can't comment, but seriously, I'd expect this at IGN, not here...
It's sad, really. It's my pick too, but just because there isn't anything else. I mean it isn't a bad game, but it was one of the FEW this year that actually warranted a purchase.
C'mon developers, get your ass in gear and start making groundbreaking titles!
C'mon developers, get your ass in gear and start making groundbreaking titles!
@DinnertimeNinja
Respectfully disagree, being that I don't care about MGS and I already know I'll be playing L4D for a long time. I expect they'll both be remembered as great games, but I suspect that MGS is more of a niche product than its fans think - for people like me the series just doesn't provide what I'm really looking for in a game. I know there are a lot of people like me.
I'm not knocking it, I'm just saying that like there are lots of people who L4D isn't for, the same is true for MGS. In the end, they both have their place in game history.
Respectfully disagree, being that I don't care about MGS and I already know I'll be playing L4D for a long time. I expect they'll both be remembered as great games, but I suspect that MGS is more of a niche product than its fans think - for people like me the series just doesn't provide what I'm really looking for in a game. I know there are a lot of people like me.
I'm not knocking it, I'm just saying that like there are lots of people who L4D isn't for, the same is true for MGS. In the end, they both have their place in game history.
"Its just simple fact that even though its their opinion, its a clearly biased one. "
Adding it to my list of quotes!
Adding it to my list of quotes!
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots is my game of the year. However, Left 4 Dead would be my second choice even though i haven't even played it, because I dont have a 360 and my comp isnt good enough. Valve makes great games and the idea is really kool i really hope that game comes to PS3, if not then maybe when I get a PC good enough to play the game ill get it on that. All and all, im content with Destructoids pick for 2008, also I am really excited to play Destructoids 2007 GOTY, BioShock im getting that for xmas! :D
@ Atlas,
No. I added an echo effect to his voice. Sadly, the Dtoid player compression suppressed a lot of the nice 5.1 surround sound.
No. I added an echo effect to his voice. Sadly, the Dtoid player compression suppressed a lot of the nice 5.1 surround sound.
While Left 4 Dead wouldn't have even made my list, I do have a number of friends who some good ol' zombie shootin'. Just seeing Lost Odyssey up there with the others fills my heart with joy. :)
Cheers!
Cheers!
Am I the only one that has noticed that everyone keeps saying zombies? They're still live human people, just infected with a behemoth rabies virus that owns humans. I know, they're basically zombies, but I don't remember when zombies could run fast.
28 days/weeks later they were infected with the rage virus.
I Am Legend it was the T virus (iirc).
Quarantine they had the same thing as L4D, a super-homo rabies virus (coincidence?).
The special infected aren't canon.
28 days/weeks later they were infected with the rage virus.
I Am Legend it was the T virus (iirc).
Quarantine they had the same thing as L4D, a super-homo rabies virus (coincidence?).
The special infected aren't canon.
Everyone stop picking on Sephiroth. It's not hsi fault that the only way he can feel good about himself is to insist that his preferences and tastes are superior to everyone elses.
Huh.
Left 4 Dead is a great game. Fun as hell. It's also the wrong fuckin' choice for Game of the Year.
Whatev.
Left 4 Dead is a great game. Fun as hell. It's also the wrong fuckin' choice for Game of the Year.
Whatev.
I totally agree with this. I've had more fun playing Left 4 Dead online and off than I have with any other game in a while. The campaigns are a perfect length for a quick session and supremely replayable, Versus is fantastic if you've got two teams of four working together, and the story takes a cue from Portal perfectly - gives you just enough to make you wonder and keep things interesting, without hitting you over the head and explaining everything.
Also, Chad is awesome.
Also, Chad is awesome.
@SephirothX
who cares about xbox live! L4D plays best on a PC as do all Valve's games. The controls are perfect, graphics look fine to me but tbh I don't play L4D for graphics I play it for fun which theres loads.
SephirothX@FAIL
who cares about xbox live! L4D plays best on a PC as do all Valve's games. The controls are perfect, graphics look fine to me but tbh I don't play L4D for graphics I play it for fun which theres loads.
SephirothX@FAIL
I liked left 4 dead, but fallout is my winner.
I also think MGS4, Rock Band 2, Gears of War 2, and GTA4 were better.
I also think MGS4, Rock Band 2, Gears of War 2, and GTA4 were better.
@SephirothX:
The reason why the so called 'majority' of Xbox Live thinks it's 'meh' is because they're playing an inferior version. Same way Portal, TF2 and HL2 have all felt awkward on console(s) -- they're PC games, pure and simple.
Anyway, awesome video, Chad. Slightly disappointed that Braid didn't take the top spot, but L4D is still a worthy choice.
The reason why the so called 'majority' of Xbox Live thinks it's 'meh' is because they're playing an inferior version. Same way Portal, TF2 and HL2 have all felt awkward on console(s) -- they're PC games, pure and simple.
Anyway, awesome video, Chad. Slightly disappointed that Braid didn't take the top spot, but L4D is still a worthy choice.
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