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Last week I wrote an article called "Indie games don't have to act like indie games." To my surprise, the article became quite a source of controversy for something posted on a Sunday afternoon. Although David Jaffe liked it, my peers in the gaming press were not so readily pleased.

Patrick Klepek from G4 said I shouldn't expect to ever be taken seriously after a long argument we had on Twitter. G4's Sterling McGarvey said that he'd take any artsty-fartsy indie game over "creatively bankrupt bullsh*t." The whole fiasco even prompted GameSetWatch to publish an analysis of the argument. If all this nonsense taught me one thing, it's this -- we need an expert.

Luckily, The Videogame Show What I've Done knows such an expert. His name is Virgilio Armarndio, who you may remember from a previous episode. Unlike me, he is an expert on all things artistic and was happy to set the record straight on a number of things. He also debuted a brand new indie game, Peaches, which we are exclusively showing for the first time.

Get out your most pompous scarf and pour a glass of wine. Above all, enjoy today's episode!








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ParticleSt0rm's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2010 12:03
ParticleSt0rm
You look like John B in that pic :D +1 rep
AstralDrmz's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2010 12:05
AstralDrmz
RELATIONSHIPS.
MidnightOwl's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2010 12:06
MidnightOwl
Is Jim actually British? Or does he just always speak with a British accent?
Monodi's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2010 12:07
Monodi
Good god, what have you done
snaxib's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2010 12:09
snaxib
LOVED IT. Only thing missing: Uncle Reg. Unless Uncle Reg was the peach.....
PhazonYoshi's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2010 12:10
PhazonYoshi
GOTY.
NintenDood's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2010 12:12
NintenDood
This is the best VSWID EVER.
Havoc Fang's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2010 12:13
Havoc Fang
Oh, Virgilio Armarndio. You so art.
the Company's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2010 12:13
the Company
Holy balls.

I've always liked The Videogame Show What I've Done, despite some that missed me by a bit (I didn't really like the Sonic 4 episode for reasons I'm not even sure of), but I've never really found them to be really laugh out loud experiences.

Things have now changed.

That was beautiful.

This is better than Passage.
Phaazoid's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2010 12:14
Phaazoid
I have to say, I completely agreed with your take on indi/art games previously, and this video was so funny/satirical that I was forced to make an account in order to comment so.
Volkarin's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2010 12:17
Volkarin
Peaches is definitely my GOTY.
VGFreak1225's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2010 12:17
VGFreak1225
O_O All of life, everything and nothing makes sense now.

Excuse me for a moment.

*Cries*

Now then, someone make me a .gif of that, STAT!
Grimspoon's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2010 12:18
Grimspoon
The beauty of Virgilio's analysis of games as art juxtaposed against the gritty backdrop of that parking lot truly moved me.

Virgilio isn't just an expert on art, he IS art.
AlphaJC's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2010 12:19
AlphaJC
wow, that was just wow I dont even have words to describe that so im just going to say wow. O_O?
chronomitch's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2010 12:19
chronomitch
Jim, you're the man.
GoldenGamerXero's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2010 12:19
GoldenGamerXero
I too hate the idea that art=/=entertainment. I'm not talking about just "fun" here either. I mean make me feel some sort of emotion instead of showing me odd imagery and expecting me to unravel the meaning of life. How am I supposed to feel anything if I'm just given blank screen with a peach on it (seriously that is how I feel playing some of this crap).

Isn't art all about making to think and feel anyway?
The Pilgrums's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2010 12:20
The Pilgrums
It's... it's SO BEAUTIFUL!! D':

It really makes you ponder relationships at their most primitive state. Are we men or are we peaches? Mmmmm. Yesssss.... Very deep and poetic. This... THIS is video games.

You are everything and nothing, sir. Brava, brava!!
GoldenGamerXero's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2010 12:20
GoldenGamerXero
*making you
BlackSymbiote's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2010 12:23
BlackSymbiote
I love Virgilio Armarndio. The two episodes with him are easily my favorites of the bunch. Hope we can somehow see more of him in future.
SilversunFrenzy's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2010 12:25
SilversunFrenzy
waitwaitwait, did the peach rape her
Grande C's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2010 12:25
Grande C
The human condition! too many hilarious bits!
Adil0n's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2010 12:25
Adil0n
I don't know if videogames are art... but i'm sure this video is!! omg, just omg!
Trebz's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2010 12:26
Trebz
Company and I are on the same wavelength. I love TVGSWID, but this was the first episode to really make me laugh constantly.

I would like to see Virgillio Armandio make a guest appearance on The Journalism Show. Artistic Journalism with Armandio and Beedog
ChronosWing's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2010 12:28
ChronosWing
Jim what do your neighbor's in Arkansas think when they see a fat British man dressed in drag out in the snow crying into a camera?
shinryu's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2010 12:29
shinryu
5/5 would watch again
Bigby's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2010 12:29
Bigby
This is probably the best Angry Video Game Nerd I've ever seen. Rolfe really went all out with the makeup this time.
garison's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2010 12:29
garison
Well, that was sarcastic.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2010 12:31
Chris Carter
I fucking loved it: and it's actually true.

I also LOVE the Kingdom Hearts references!
AceFlibble's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2010 12:36
AceFlibble
@ChronosWing

That's not drag.
It is, however, bollock-emptyingly glorious.
Insane Enigma's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2010 12:36
Insane Enigma
My mind has just melted from the art I have just seen.
pezking6983's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2010 12:36
pezking6983
Good job Jim! It was a breath of fresh air to see somebody do something funny in one long take. I am so sick of these Youtube videos where its a cut every 3 seconds because nobody can speak a clear thought without fucking up.
Niero's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2010 12:40
Niero
I love this man.
ChronosWing's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2010 12:40
ChronosWing
@Ace

Bright red lipstick is enough to pass as drag in Arkansas.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2010 12:42
Jim Sterling
"Bright red lipstick is enough to pass as drag in Arkansas."

I then take issue with your other statement.

I am not enough to pass as "fat" in Arkansas. :-)
Poe's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2010 12:44
Poe
Peaches is the Citizen Kane of video games, and this is the Citizen Kane of Video Game Shows What You've Done. *slow clap*
Jesus H Christ's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2010 12:45
Jesus H Christ
:| :/ :\
kohelhunter's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2010 12:45
kohelhunter
Videogames sold on the market are not art. They just have art in them. I piece of art made into a videogame will not sell ever. So in short the videogames we buy art not art no matter how hard they try.
GiftofGab's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2010 12:45
GiftofGab
I read the other article, where it seems to be that a lot of people are saying that videogames don't need to be fun, they just need to be interesting.

Considering the medium, can you find an example of something being interesting without being fun? anyone? In order to be an interesting game, doesn't it pretty much have to be fun in some regard?

Also, just because art is subjective, doesn't mean that there is no room for it to be criticized... Its why some people become successful artists and some don't...
Bigby's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2010 12:46
Bigby
I live in Missouri, just north of Mammoth Spring. I will now take the time to stalk Jim. *makes a note*
Jonathan Holmes's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2010 12:48
Jonathan Holmes
Better than the Emperor's New Clothes.

And his new groove.
Bigby's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2010 12:50
Bigby
Oh, and he is right, he is not "fat" by Arkansas standards. Lots of roaming herds of landwhales down here.
Death by Yeti's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2010 12:53
Death by Yeti
Jim Sterling is what video games need
runtheplacered's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2010 13:02
runtheplacered
Not sure I would even bother admitting that David Jaffe liked it. Not sure that A.) means a damn thing and B.) would help your cause any
Shadowiii's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2010 13:07
Shadowiii
This is the best work you've ever done.
TheDRMaster's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2010 13:11
TheDRMaster
AM I EVERYTHING OR AM I NOTHING THIS HAS GIVEN ME A NEW VIEW ON MY MORTALITY
PieInTheSky's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2010 13:13
PieInTheSky
Barvo
runtheplacered's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2010 13:15
runtheplacered
that was pretty funny, gotta admit.
jettpack's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2010 13:21
jettpack
I think it was good that my first thought when i say you was EDDIE IZZARD. Who is fucking brilliant, Good job mate, RELATIONSHIPS.
eskimo bob's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2010 13:25
eskimo bob
I lol'd so hard at the Kingdom Hearts reference.
ColonelPedro's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2010 13:27
ColonelPedro
I liked Michael Samyn's (of Tale of Tales) comment in the Gamasutra post about all this
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/27170/Opinion_In_Defense_Of_That_Recent_AntiIndie_Column.php#comment42952

"But things being the way they are, we know very well that a negative review of mainstream game might lead to bankruptcy of a company while a negative review of an indie game might lead to a starving child. So it's understandable that indie games get a gentler treatment."

Because the child of someone working at a game company will never go hungry if that company goes bankrupt. A shitty game is a shitty game. If you use your kid as collateral to make your indie masterpiece then you're the idiot.
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