I've learned my lesson.
- Notice the lack of Japanese published and developed games.
- Notice how biased the VGAs has is towards the 360.
- Notice how it is ruled over by corporate sponsorship with its own meaningless categories and how it promotes certain games that actually turn out to be terrible
- Notice how many games that win are AAA cinematic blockbuster titles mostly shooter titles.
- Notice how you won't find a single Nintendo game in any of the categories besides "Best Wii" and "Handheld game" and you won't find a single Wiiware game like Lost Winds: Winter of the Melodias nominated in the "Best Downloadable game" category either.
VGAS are about the following: FPS, HD graphics, dirty jokes, 360,
I think up and coming devs and indies should be given more spotlight to showcase their talents also. Cut the mainstream vanilla in half.
They often care less about the love for gaming, and just whether or not things come across as "badass" or "epic" or similarly action-movie style adjectives.
Don't get me wrong, I like a good John Woo gunplay scene as much as the next guy, but let's be serious. Where would those guys be if they didnt have Halo and Gears? Watching action movies. It's just that now, they get to move up a bit, and instead of watching a bunch of dudes get shot, they get to shoot a bunch of dudes.
And since there's so many people who like these things, basic economics dictates that developers will provide more of it. So until gamers either change tastes, or that demographic moves to a new medium, we'll see the VGAs as they are.
Wut, you LIKE the VGA? Its just the same self-obsessed wannabe-celebrity bullshit that's all over MTV already. Throw in some shitty rappers to appeal to the 17 year old black demographic and some shitty pop singers to appeal to the 17 year old white trash-but-i-pretend-im-upper-class demographic.
It sickens me, and its why i havent watched a single awards show in 6 years, be it movies music or games. They know nothing of the art of the medium they speak of, and they always just pick the most celeb-talked-about winner.
Its quite alot like obama winning the peace prize. Yeah i managed to squeeze that in here too =)
Exactly.
Even though MTV owns it as well as Spike, the MTV video game awards (Germany exclusive), are bloody fantastic, with the easily funniest and non-misrepresenting show hosts of public TV (Budi and Simon).
VGAs though...eh. I've never gotten myself to watch them because they seem about as cool as Nick's Teen Choice Awards.
I'm not gonna watch this, and neither should any of you. No matter how much Destructoid had a hand in the voting.
Or, it's meaningless if you just don't watch the shit.
That'll never happen, so I guess the 17+ version of Nickelodeon's Kids' Choice awards is all we have to look forward to.
Which is why I won't watch, because if it doesn't feature tits or rock stars, who cares? This is Spike, after all, and it's got more to do with soda brands than the games themselves.
Not only because it was intelligent and well-thought out, but also because I now have the image of you shoryuken'ing Kim Kardashian's ass for a 1up.
You think these award shows make fun/damage what video games really are, but I say, you're all just self centered assholes who think they know how to control the video game industry and would like to see things done their way. These award shows do not damage the integrity of video, its all about marketing. The show advertises games to build hype around the titles that have been nominated and titles that will come out soon via exclusives. I say that the game industry, especially the gaming community should welcome shows like these. It helps the games, and exposes them to people who might not have come across them otherwise.
Talk is cheap, and if you really find these shows offensive...shut the fuck up and do something about it.
Yes. Clearly the best way to further the video games industry in the public eye is to shoot sparks from our dicks, meanwhile only highlighting the video games that are already in the public eye.
If I could elect someone the "leader" of your cult of crazy gamers who want to show the world that our hobby contains more than blood, tits, and machismo, it would be you. Surely you could take us in the correct direction.
Anyway, way to read the article. It's pretty apparent that either A) You didn't or B) You don't have a shred of reading comprehension.
We need to make this happen.
Anyway, great article.
Says the guy that just called some unknown demographic of people morons. Yes, talk is definitely cheap. But it couldn't hurt to not start off your paragraph insulting a large group of people that don't agree with you.
Nobody is saying the VGA's is a bad idea (are they?). They (myself included) are insulting the execution of that particular idea. I can't believe I just had to explain that to you.
Gaming does not now and never has needed mainstream approval to be successful. The only thing the mainstream has done is hurt gaming (see the crash in the 80s). I'm sure some will say without the recent influx of gaming popularity, we would not have some of the blockbusters of the last few years, and perhaps that's true, but is anyone really poised to say that without those titles gaming still wouldn't be as great as it is today? I know I'm not.
"The people who think VGA's is a bad idea, youre a bunch of fucking morons."
Stopped reading there. Maybe someday you'll grow up and learn that no actual adult will take any argument of yours seriously when you resort to insults in the first fucking sentence.
I won't hold my breathe though.
I get that the VGAs aren't really taken seriously, but we really don't have an embraced-by-pop-culture alternative. Shrug.
Honestly my biggest problem with the Spike awards is that they have an open vote instead of letting a bunch of snooty jerks pick the most "culturally significant" or letting inside industry people or critics choose what they feel is the most important. If it were up to public opinion "New Moon" would be the guaranteed winner of Best Picture.
I thought most of the awards are actually press and industry decided, actually.
Now who picks who's nominated, that's possibly concerning...
Tarvu: Exercise in self loathing one?
Doomsday Forte: Yup.
Tarvu: Is good
Doomsday Forte: My comment would be "If this is how games are meant to be portrayed to the masses, then why isn't E3/PAX not only more popular, but have big-name stars frequenting the events?"
Doomsday Forte: Or something of those lines.
Doomsday Forte: And since I don't watch the VGAs, the bit with Jack Black in his underwear with fat guys behind him in the same getup gaming...
Tarvu: PAX and E3 don't need them because the people there are already hopelessly hooked
Doomsday Forte: That really bothers me.
Doomsday Forte: And yeah. PAX and E3 is the way it should be. Not the VGAs.
To expand upon my point with Black, looking at that picture I asked myself "is THIS how people see gamers?" It's ignorance on my part to realize the sad truth, but it could've been a great turnaround. Show people that gamers are normal just like other people, not fat guys who sit in their underwear and stare blankly at the screen. Though yes, I also place a lot of the blame on Spike and its demographic.
I may not be such a heavily-involved gamer as I used to be, but the VGAs are not of my interest at all.
1) Nintendo games don't get SHIT at these things. I guess it's because Nintendo games aren't "manly" or "epic" enough for Spike's target demographic, ie. the beer-drinking frat boy who thinks Halo was the first FPS. Hell, NSMB Wii not even getting a nomination alone made me decide to not even bother watching the VGAs for the trailers or "special announcments."
2) Japanese games rarely (if ever? I have no idea) get the same level of recognition and praise as Western games do. I guess Japanese games are also not "manly" or "epic" enough for Spike's target demographic.
3) Beautiful, stylish, and truly artistic games rarely get mentioned either. If it's not uber realistic or in HD, it's not a game worth praising according to Spike's target demographic.
4) I'm not Spike's target demographic. Simple as that.
No, I'm pretty sure all the categories are completely open to a public vote. You can go to their website and vote on all the categories.
The people that pick those nominees need to be replaced, but if they're picking ones that will get a lot of public interest they do a good job. Are people going to get excited enough to go vote for their favorite art game that they've never played, no. They pick nominees that are extremely popular games that lots of people will have probably played if they have an Xbox. If they don't do that they sponsor the category by Mountain Dew.
I watch them to see the exclusive trailers mostly but I cringe throughout.
Sadly, it does represent the majority of gamers.
VGA does represent gamers quite well. If by gamer you mean the frat boys who use every glitch and yell every insult and work every free hour to up their stats in Halo or Call of Duty.
THOSE gamers are completely represented. Unfortunately, other than those bottom of the barrel types, the rest of the gamers are being treated just like the frat boy mentality and being more than a little mocking.
They might as well just throw a middle finger at the hobby of gaming on the screen. Be about the same level of respect the show has ever had with what looked like paid advertisements disguised as awards. (In fairness, I'm saying this having not seen this years).
They've done just the same, honestly. I already commented on the fat guys in underwear bit that was pictured, but I haven't seen any of the awards shows out of fear my IQ will plummet. :(
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Though in your list of respectable entertainment, you need to flip number 3 and 4

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