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The truth about the Miss Video Game pageant photo

A few months ago I did a story on the Miss Video Game pageant, and at the time I backed the competition and even entered as a contestant. After three months of being a part of the contest, exchanging e-mails with the people running it, and even reading information about the contest from other sources, I've decided to remove myself from the competition completely.

I admit that in the beginning I liked the idea of the contest: female gamers from all over the world competing in an online gaming tournament and pageant to become a representative of the female gaming community. However, after being involved in the farce and possible scam that is the Miss Video Game pageant, I can no longer be a part of it, nor stand behind it.

From day one, the whole thing has been run unprofessionally and has failed to impress anyone but those too dazzled by the whole idea of winning the chance to be in the public eye. I too was suckered in by the whole idea, but after seeing how many people were questioning the contest's legal specifics, along with the downright suspicious manner in which they were running things, I realized that there was something truly wrong with the pageant. Read on for the full story behind the potentially harmful competition.

When the contest first started, the mission statement and front page claimed the contest was a female gaming competition that wanted to showcase female gamers and their talent and to ultimately find a female gamer to be a role model and spokesperson for the gaming industry.

However, they also mentioned in the mission statement and in the original front page that the women signing up didn't have to play video games. The official rules stated that anyone who has played ANY electronic game can sign up. So which is it -- do you want gamer girls or not?

How can you have a contest to find a female gamer spokesperson, but not require them to play video games? The people at Miss Video Game claim that they didn't put gaming skills as a requirement for entry, because they didn't want anyone to feel like they couldn't compete if they weren't gamers but wanted to learn about gaming.

As a gamer I like to see new gamers join our community, but how can you expect a new gamer to represent a community they have only been a part of for a few days? If this contest was about finding a suitable role model for young gamers, then I'm afraid and offended by what some of these contestants are going to teach the future gamers of the world. Some contestants are posting pictures of themselves in lingerie or less, cheating on their view counts, and swearing in their profiles.

Congratulations on setting such wonderful standards for your ideal role model. The rules of MVG even state that any pictures containing nudity or sexual lewdness would be removed, yet any of the pictures that are sexual have not been removed. Exactly what does the company behind MVG consider lewd? I've seen profiles of girls in their lingerie, posing naked but slightly covered by an object, and even one that had their main profile picture as simply just her cleavage. No head shot, just boobs in a bikini.

Getting into the legal issues of Miss Video Game, you find that no one was required to sign any agreements with the company when they entered. Normally when you enter a contest with any company that will possibly end with the contestant either winning a vacation or having their image used for their product or service, the company makes you look over a set of rules and legalities, and then has you sign or check the little box saying you understand all the above stipulations mentioned, and agree to them.

MVG had nothing like that before we entered the contest and even the contest rules weren't posted until maybe a month afterwards. When the contest first started, there was a note posted above the application page that stated all entries had to be 18 years and older, but profiles for girls younger than 18 were popping up on the site and not being removed.

MVG decided to change their rules and allow for younger entries as long as they had their guardians approval for flying to Montreal with them at their own expense.  It's doubtful any of the people were made aware of this, because there were no contest rules available to see until December 5th, which even the site announces in their press section. Again, some clear and definitive rules or stipulations would have made it possible to understand.

When the contest first began a judge application box on the Web site was originally used for anyone to apply to judge the final contest in Montreal, but now MVG claims they are bringing industry people on board to judge instead, and the applicant box was jettisoned mid-pageant.

Scrutinizing over the company behind MVG, Miss Video Game Inc., you would find that they weren't even listed on the site at first, until Trina and I from Gaming Angels started looking around for their registered business, which we couldn't find. Of course they weren't registered with something like the Better Business Bureau either.

The only information on the site was a Montreal mailing address which has since been removed.  I finally asked for a copy of their business license which they begrudgingly forwarded to me. The issue date for the license was November 29, 2006; two months after the contest had already started.

In a recent interview Mark Donavon, MVG owner, claimed that the online gaming portion of the contest will be handled by a company from Alberta Canada called Titan Gaming, which also has no information that could be found. I did manage to find the "future website" of Titan Gaming, but there's nothing about the company and no mention of the MVG. Also, when I tried to email the company to find out further information, the email address came back nonexistent.

MVG Inc. owner Mark Donovan claims he created MVG to give back to the gaming community, since he has long enjoyed gaming himself. That's a nice gesture, but Mark refuses to let people know how he can afford to put on this pageant.

He claims that MVG is backed by a privately owned company that wishes to remain anonymous. He has also claimed that the pageant is so well funded that they don't even need to actively pursue sponsors to hold the event, yet they still have a spot on the official Web site for sponsors to sign up. Of course, if there are any sponsors at this point, I don't know, because only one sponsor appeared briefly on the site, and was then removed. Why any company would want to sponsor an event that won't even post them on their site for advertising purposes is beyond me.

Every event like this must have some sort of profit motive; the ending goal is to make money off it through sales, advertising, or exposure. Even when a company holds a charity event, they are still advertising their own company and the sponsors involved in it. I don't see any reason why MVG Inc. would wait to promote their sponsors until the actual event, when they have so much traffic going to their site right now for voting. I'd love to know how exactly MVG Inc. is making any profit from this pageant so far. The only thing they were selling was MVG clothing in their Café Press store that was only on the site for a month and then removed.

The whole MVG Web site itself was a mess right from the beginning with the spelling and grammar mistakes, bad links, and horrible load times.  For two months it took forever to load and often didn't at all. Finally, three days into the voting, they changed servers and improved things. The voting process requires voters to enter an email address, but on the first day of voting, this feature wasn't working.

Also, when the field was fixed, you had to verify your vote by clicking a link in an email that came to your inbox. This was not stated in the email or on the voting page, and most people probably deleted the email, because it was written like an offer to vote in the pageant, instead of a letter asking for verification to submit the vote. How many votes were lost because they weren't clear on the requirements to vote? Many contestants had to redo their profile a few times due to Web site glitches.

The site also made profile changes that included new questions and more room for pictures. Further into the contest, they then added the option for Web-cam videos that only allowed for a quick three minute video, which seemed unfair because they promised we would be able to post normal videos on the site to help promote ourselves. For those three minutes they stated they wanted us to answer the same profile questions we did on the site instead of actually using the videos to creatively showcase our personalities in a way that would make us stand out.

The reason for that was because they didn't want any lewd material popping up in the videos, or anyone promoting any other businesses, etc. Guarding against lewd videos they'll do, but not lewd profile pictures.

Miss Video Game may just be new at doing all of this, and learning along the way, but honestly with all these mistakes and lack of a credible sponsor backing them, I cannot in good faith promote or be involved with such an event or company.

How could anyone be willing to jump on a plane to Montreal and trust these people with their safety after all the information presented about this company and contest? If these people can't even run a Web site, then how good do you think they will be at coordinating a live event?

All that I ask of the contestants still involved in the competition is that you keep all these points in mind, and be sure to take care and protect yourselves, because sometimes if something doesn't feel right, it usually isn't.


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Jordan Devore's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/29/2007 20:55
Jordan Devore
I wouldn't mind being on the panel of judges if you know what I'm saying... but yeah, this contest is a sham. A sham I say!
DJP3DRO's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/29/2007 20:57
DJP3DRO
Nice job Faith. Illegal maybe?
rasput1n's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/29/2007 20:58
rasput1n
Too long, where are the nude pics at?
CannibalCalvin 's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/29/2007 21:02
CannibalCalvin
sigh... sad, this kinda had potential. A real shame its scam that doesn't give proper credit to the gaming community.
Hannah's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/29/2007 21:04
Hannah
Meh, it's probably just a regular old personal information gathering scam. They could collect a lot of emails from horny gamer guys via the voting system.
Namelessted's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/29/2007 21:10
Namelessted

nothing like a picture of a girl smoking weed, i am sure that is against the rules. From what I am guessing its a ROOR bong.
bleep's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/29/2007 21:12
bleep
I didn't read the whole novel you wrote up there but I will say this.....
First you're for it....then you're against it! You're flip flopping like John Kerry! LMAO
Jordan Devore's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/29/2007 21:14
Jordan Devore
Let's all vote for the druggie!
ian_esq's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/29/2007 21:15
ian_esq
bleep wtf?
Jelster's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/29/2007 21:16
Jelster
On the subject on whether a girl who isn't a gamer should represent the gaming community.

I agree to a point but find <looks around Dtoid> that gamers come in many shapes, sizes and capabilities. Just because someone plays games shouldn't perhaps overrule someone who's more capable of delivering a message. I would draw as an example PR flunky who would be hired based on their abilities rather than their knowledge of the company or product.

Of course, someone who plays games, is a capable spokesperson and has the looks to make a Yeti hot is preferable.

BTW - You kinda sold me a third of the way in and then seemed to want to make me watch to kick them in the nuts for the remaining 2/3 of the article.
SP420's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/29/2007 21:18
SP420
I agree. Show nudes. Whereever they may be.
WmV337's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/29/2007 21:22
WmV337
D-toid robot ftMVGpw
Sim_Genius's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/29/2007 21:29
Sim_Genius
Well, It looked tacky anyway. Thank god you´re out!
SpencersGifts's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/29/2007 21:37
SpencersGifts
thats weird shit. Like a worse version of myspace? lol least if anything the idea sounds good on paper, but fuck how do they screw it up like this? I mean in my gaming days, Ive met a few cute chicks. But it would be very cool to meet some hardcore gamer chicks that even if they were HOT but still cute, could rock ass playing games. Makes up for the butterface haha But this sounds like a bad scam, shit soon theyll be asking for you to wire them some money so they can help out a Nigerian prince being overthrown or something.

I rate this LAME
Geoff's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/29/2007 21:38
Geoff
Oh my god, I think my ex-girlfriend is on here.
ArrestedDeveloper's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/29/2007 22:09
ArrestedDeveloper
Hey, the girl that uses boobs as her main pic (the second pic you post in your article)is faking it. If you look closely (which I did...for many minutes) the boobs obviously belong to a thin person but when you look at at her other pics she is obviously, ermmm, husky? Zoftig? Chubby! thats the one.
Faith's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/29/2007 22:23
Faith
There's also that logo on her right tit, but fake or not, its still inappropiate for a site that has 16 year olds on it too.
Jecrell's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/29/2007 22:48
Jecrell
No doubt the company is readying human body part harvesting machines for their arrival.

So many kidneys to sell to the black market, so little time.
PetriesLastWord's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/29/2007 22:49
PetriesLastWord
I find it interesting that on the forums you claim you don't support females excluding themselves to female only clans, groups, etc, yet here, you suddenly like the idea of a female only competition, just until it goes sour.

Could you please stop trying to walk every side of an issue and instead think it through, forming an actual opinion Faith? You're losing credibility quickly here.
Serpentish's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/29/2007 22:51
Serpentish
I've got my gaming role model right here.
CRA's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/29/2007 23:05
CRA
You've sucessfully giving these people 2 posts. Keep it up, I'm sure they need the exposure. Oh yeah, whine much?
momiji58's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/29/2007 23:27
momiji58
It just goes to show that most pageants are just vehicles for exploiting people's bodies, whether male or female. It is rare for pageants to showcase the participants' mental capacity, if they can actually contribute to society instead of just looking pretty.
Faith's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/29/2007 23:29
Faith
@Petrie:

I generally don't SUPPORT as in belong to, all girl gaming site, clans, etc., but I find nothing wrong with them and I think its good for women to have a site or clan they can belong to if they feel better being around all women.

If they want to really be apart of the gaming community I think women should spend time on normal gaming sites.

As for my part in Miss Video Game - I thought an all girl gaming tournament would be good to convince new female gamers to try getting into tournaments, if they were too scared to in the beginning for whatever reason.

Miss Video Game just failed to make this contest/tournament/pageant thing run well. If Nintendo or Microsoft wanted to run a online tournament for women gamers that encouraged new competitors to run that would be great and I would support that.

Now, are you done stalking me?
PetriesLastWord's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/29/2007 23:35
PetriesLastWord
I was unaware that posting an opinion as part of the Destructoid community was unwelcome. I'll keep that in mind from this moment forward.
Omega's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/29/2007 23:46
Omega
This has been my problem from the very beginning with this whole thing. It was sloppily put together and ran, and as soon as I saw Suicide Girls making entries and talking about how they play WoW for 10 hours a week, I knew this thing was nothing more than a farce.

This also stems down to groups such as the Frag Dolls and PMS Clan. These supposed "Community growing groups" are nothing more than something like this, but well ran by professional companies. Alot of girls are using gaming as a gateway to get into movies, t.v, radio etc..a prime example of this would be Becky Young who recently graced Destructiod with her senselesws babble on girl gamers.

People need to see through the marketing , REAL girl gamers don't need to post pictures and justify that they play games..they just PLAY THEM, kinda like the rest of us.

Don't believe the hype.
Seifersythe's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 00:16
Seifersythe
@Faith.

So because he views your blogs and reads your posts and points out the contridictions between what you claim and what you actually do, he's a stalker?

I suppose if he praised you he'd be a fan.

Funny that.
PMS Kitty's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 00:30
PMS Kitty
Excellent 'deconstruction' on the matter. I spent well over an hour on their site the other day with Athena Twin PMS, after one of our more prominent memebers announced she was listing herself, and we both share your concerns. The sheer fact that there are no sponsors listed - that the company that's backing it wants to remain anonymous? Scares me out of my mind....

Excellent peice, I'll definatly forward it on.
Putthebottledown's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 00:43
Putthebottledown
The girl who posted her cleavage should have only posted that pic.. BOW WOW... ZINGGGGGGGG
Bluefusion's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 00:50
Bluefusion
@ Momiji58

Good job at saying the essence of some crap I've been constantly rewriting for some of the gender topics. I just haven't been able to word it so succinctly.

Particularly with women it seems more and more than in order to get attention you have to pander to the sexual desires of men, regardless of its relevance. And women who do that in the end hurt their ability to stand equal to men, because we're left with the notion that they're pieces of meat.

I wouldn't be surprised if that anonymous sponsor wasn't Playboy or some porno company looking for some new talent.
Detry's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 00:54
Detry
That's some funny shit.

Nice article Faith
Putthebottledown's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 00:55
Putthebottledown
I would also like to use this forum to start the official unofficial Putthebottledown Female spokesperson contest. Please contact me for more information!
Serpentish's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 01:05
Serpentish
mmmm pieces of meat
Cruds's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 01:24
Cruds
Why the need for a female gamer spokesperson anyway? are there male gamer spokespersons?....well..maybe Robert Summa. I play games and got my own reason to do so. I don't need some dude or some chick to speak on my behalf. This some industry bullshit I really could care less about. A spokesperson...sure like we all the same type of peoples caring about the same kind of things.
Hamza CTZ Aziz's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 01:26
Hamza CTZ Aziz
Serpentish: LMFAO!!!
ArrestedDeveloper's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 04:45
ArrestedDeveloper
Hey Faith Joystiq picked this story up, from your blog not destructoid.
teresina's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 04:58
teresina
wow. i may be just a newb, but i have to say that i totally agree with you faith. i think its awesome that you're pointing out what is actually going on, especially as this "contest" was advertised as a skill based one and not one based on looks. don't worry about the crap other people are giving you. you're completely spot on.
PetriesLastWord's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 08:40
PetriesLastWord
Here's where the problem is Faith(yes apparently I am now stalking you, I prefer to call it demanding professionalism though):

http://www.petrieslastword.com/2007/01/is-faith-of-at-destructoid-really.html
Mxyzptlk's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 09:14
Mxyzptlk
This competition quickly degenerated into who could be the bigger attention whore rather than the better gamer. I never quite understood why the winners were decided by user votes in the first place.
ShinAmano's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 09:16
ShinAmano
PetriesLastWord & Faith need to get into the ring...that will solve everything...I'll sponsor it and be the ref :)
PetriesLastWord's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 09:25
PetriesLastWord
I just can't stand women who proclaim "equality" and "women's rights" but then are unwilling to back those ideals up by living by them. I have no personal issue with Faith, but she is a supposed "professional" here on Destructoid, and therefor will be scrutinized when she takes a stance on an issue, especially when she doesn't abide by the same standards she sets for others.
Bluefusion's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 09:53
Bluefusion
Hindsight is 20/20
nerpin's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 10:09
nerpin
I remember seeing some skank (not using the word lightly. Her overall look screamed town bicycle) with a ton of views. Her game listed was "tetris on my cellphone"...

I pretty much stopped caring about the whole thing right there.
Feelz Good's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 10:12
Feelz Good
We even made mention of you on Gamertag Radio, what you did was funny. The whole contest is a joke. Girls who game=cool. Girls who game and relate that to how they look and feeling loved=lame. You have all these female gamers complaining about how guys online give them a hard time and say things like they must be ugly and weigh 400lbs. Then you have girls who register for this stupid ass contest and that's counterproductive.

I'm ready to pitch my reality show to TV execs. It's called "who wants to get clubbed over the head". In this show I'm the star and 50 women compete for the honor of being beaten over the head with a club and dragged back to my place unconcious. You'd think no woman with half a brain would participate, but I'm sure every contestant in the Miss Video Game pageant would sign up.
ShinAmano's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 10:24
ShinAmano
"I just can't stand women who proclaim "equality" and "women's rights" but then are unwilling to back those ideals up by living by them."

I feel the same way...also the same with race issues. It was a big deal that a black coach made the superbowl...the media had a fn hayday with it, but ask Lubby and he says 'If we are still talking about race then we are not at a point of equality'...stop segregating yourself if you want to be treated equal.
Namelessted's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 10:51
Namelessted
Joystiq is fucking retarded. The people reading the article over there didn't even read the article before they made judgement. Its pissing me off. They are commenting because they think its just some girl game tournament or that the only bad thing about it was that they changed the rules over whether or not the girl has to be a gamer to enter. They don't know what they are talking about.

So I posted an article backing up Faith's position. It was completely legitamate, and Joy-fuck-stiq deleted my post. So now i posted another comment. One dude even said its good that they are having a girl tournament because no girl would ever beat Fatality. I would cunt punch that dude if i met him in life. The Scientific fact is that females have a faster response time than males which gives them a considerable advantage over males. Its just a matter that not as many girls are in gaming so there are males.
PetriesLastWord's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 11:17
PetriesLastWord
"I feel the same way...also the same with race issues. It was a big deal that a black coach made the superbowl...the media had a fn hayday with it, but ask Lubby and he says 'If we are still talking about race then we are not at a point of equality'...stop segregating yourself if you want to be treated equal."

There is still intelligent life out there, thank god.
scrap's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 12:28
scrap
I know that girl Feral. She is a myspace attention whore.
Bluefusion's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 13:20
Bluefusion
@namelessted

Yeah I posted something that basically said that gaming does not depend on physical stature and body build like sports does, so saying that a woman couldn't beat Fatality is crap.

However, when I look now I don't see it there...

The way women are shaped by our culture to have very good multitasking skills, I'd imagine a pro woman player could own in a game where many events are happening all at one time.
ian_esq's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 13:31
ian_esq
Bleep is a thief
Aktrez's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 15:11
Aktrez
Gaming is serious business. /sarcasm off

Sorry, I'm just tired of all of these posts where people are taking this thing SO seriously! It's just a fun little competition put together by a group of people who have never done it before. I'm in it for fun. They aren't asking me for money. What exactly am I "risking" here?

I also have spoken to the creators and have done research and yes, while I agree some things aren't all roses and sunshine, I don't see where ANYTHING is SO bad that it's not worth at least playing around with. They are brand new to this and are still figuring things out every day. A lot of the issues that we have all brought up they have fixed immediately.

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