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"This isn't fun. It's dreary, it's drab and it's far too real. It's downright creepy."
Well said man, I totally agree with you. This game is fucking messed up to the point where I think it just should be completely ignored.
Well said man, I totally agree with you. This game is fucking messed up to the point where I think it just should be completely ignored.
Strange, I remember this video actually being released (or to my knowledge) last week on a different site.
However, it's still pretty brutal, though the blood and gore effects upon weapon contact don't vary too much.
However, it's still pretty brutal, though the blood and gore effects upon weapon contact don't vary too much.
Well said. Unfortunately the embeded player doesn't have a stop or pause function because about a minute or so in to it I grew tired of it and had no choice but to refresh the page.
I wish all this controversy could have been better spent on a violent game worth playing.
I wish all this controversy could have been better spent on a violent game worth playing.
This... this is ribbish. This is what they banned? Jees. I just think this is lovely. Watching it has somewhat made me want Manhunt 2, except that these are the bits they took out, so I suppose all that's left is the bland stuff.
Really, I can see why some of that stuff would offend people, but most of it was so bland, such fake controvacy... like the whole hot coffee thing that I was led to believe for a long time was the addition of an actual sex scene, when really it was just two standard character models dry humping. Please correct me if I'm wrong about that.
Really, I can see why some of that stuff would offend people, but most of it was so bland, such fake controvacy... like the whole hot coffee thing that I was led to believe for a long time was the addition of an actual sex scene, when really it was just two standard character models dry humping. Please correct me if I'm wrong about that.
I played some of the uncut Manhunt 2, and I didn't think it was awful or anything.
It was basically more of the first game, which I was a fan of...I'm one of the seven or eight fans.
I hope the people that trash the game for being full of graphic violence for graphic violence's sake don't go into the Phantasmagoria post from a few days ago and cream their pants over the game.
For the record, being a big fan of video game violence, I thought both games were great at satisfying that...blood thirst? Whatever.
It was basically more of the first game, which I was a fan of...I'm one of the seven or eight fans.
I hope the people that trash the game for being full of graphic violence for graphic violence's sake don't go into the Phantasmagoria post from a few days ago and cream their pants over the game.
For the record, being a big fan of video game violence, I thought both games were great at satisfying that...blood thirst? Whatever.
This really wasn't as bad as I was expecting. I'm pretty queasy when it comes to gruesome stuff (Saw makes me nauseous), but aside from a lot of the decapitations and the garden shears, this isn't nearly as gruesome as I thought it would be, especially with all the ado about it.
That said, I'm still uninterested in the game, considering I just spent six minutes watching what the whole point of the game is.
That said, I'm still uninterested in the game, considering I just spent six minutes watching what the whole point of the game is.
I must reiterate: I was not shocked, horrified or disgusted by anything in that footage. My problem lies in the total lack of feeling or anything resembling entertainment. Where this differs from the mentioned Phantasmagoria is that the latter game at least had over-the-top splatter sensibilities that made the violence enjoyable in a squeamish, "eeew" kinda way. The kind of way that you can laugh at because it's so out-there.
Manhunt 2 isn't out-there, it's just ... fucking shit.
Manhunt 2 isn't out-there, it's just ... fucking shit.
Actually, let me be more specific. I wouldn't buy this game, because I think Rockstar make terrible games. Moreover, my games would be far, FAR more graphic than this. More realistic, more grimey and gritty, more disturbing, and far better made. Because honestly, I can't defend the game for being good anyway if it's honestly a shitty game.
Man, if this is artistic vision, then they need new glasses!
"Torture porn" describes this very well. I hope it's just as you mentioned--that they're trying to make a point about surrealism vs. realism, because I just can't see myself ever wanting this game after seeing that. Maybe this is the videogame equivalent of "Supersize Me" or something.
I absolutely loved games like GTA and Carmageddon and such, but this... I just can't put it into words. No. Just no. I guess if anyone's got the cash to waste on development just for the sake of making a statement, though, it's gonna be Rockstar.
"Torture porn" describes this very well. I hope it's just as you mentioned--that they're trying to make a point about surrealism vs. realism, because I just can't see myself ever wanting this game after seeing that. Maybe this is the videogame equivalent of "Supersize Me" or something.
I absolutely loved games like GTA and Carmageddon and such, but this... I just can't put it into words. No. Just no. I guess if anyone's got the cash to waste on development just for the sake of making a statement, though, it's gonna be Rockstar.
If Rockstar wants to release a game to for the sake of being controversial, then hell, let 'em. But personally, I wouldn't even consider renting this. I hope they're not expecting a big return on this. But hey, they have GTA to fall back on, at least theres quality and depth in those titles.
"Manhunt 2 isn't out-there, it's just ... fucking shit."
Agreed.
"Manhunt 2 isn't out-there, it's just ... fucking shit."
Agreed.
The crappy polygon count doesnt allow me to recoil in disgust. Seems as though the game is as tired as its predecessor though.
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This game looks like absolute shit (and not just the graphics). It looks like this game has no substance other than "OMG PUSH 1 BUTTON THEN WATCH FOR 10 SECONDS WHILE WE DO RIDICULOUS HOSTEL/SAW LIKE THINGS!! HEY KIDS LOOK IT'S XXXXXXXTREME!"
@DangerousD
The only person who controls avatars around here is you. Try editing your profile.
On the topic of the post, I have to agree with what Dexter345 said. There's no real reason to buy the game now that I've seen what was cut out of it, and that's a shame because the original Manhunt was the very first game that I bought for the PS2 and I liked it.
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On the topic of the post, I have to agree with what Dexter345 said. There's no real reason to buy the game now that I've seen what was cut out of it, and that's a shame because the original Manhunt was the very first game that I bought for the PS2 and I liked it.
Personally, I don't see a gigantic difference between the two.
Phantasmagoria is misogynistic violence for misogynistic violence's sake.
Manhunt 2 is deplorable violence for deplorable violence's sake.
They're both likely offensive to the majority of people out there, though what we view as offensive is purely objective. Personally, if I had to choose to be more offended by one, Phantasmagoria would get the nod, simply for the use of FMVs. I'm not offended by either at all, though. Go go desensitizing.
Phantasmagoria is misogynistic violence for misogynistic violence's sake.
Manhunt 2 is deplorable violence for deplorable violence's sake.
They're both likely offensive to the majority of people out there, though what we view as offensive is purely objective. Personally, if I had to choose to be more offended by one, Phantasmagoria would get the nod, simply for the use of FMVs. I'm not offended by either at all, though. Go go desensitizing.
I'm not offended by either myself. My point is, Phantasmagoria's death scenes were entertaining while Manhunt's 2 are completely devoid of any heart whatsoever.
Who's to say that it doesn't? I found it very entertaining in that Tarantino-style, cartoony violence. Stabbing someone? Not funny. While doing it in piggy-back? Hilarious. Made me giggle for sure.
It's a very subjective matter.
It's a very subjective matter.
Jim, I agree with you completely.
The footage just seems lack of anything what-so-ever to make it entertaining.
It does my heart good to see that the majority of people here also feel the same way.
This kind of shit shouldn't be able to garner as much attention as it has, simply because it doesn't represent what games are meant to be. Which, to me, is entertainment. And that...
Is just god awful.
Rockstar's New motto: "Creating controversey for controversey's sake, since GTA."
The footage just seems lack of anything what-so-ever to make it entertaining.
It does my heart good to see that the majority of people here also feel the same way.
This kind of shit shouldn't be able to garner as much attention as it has, simply because it doesn't represent what games are meant to be. Which, to me, is entertainment. And that...
Is just god awful.
Rockstar's New motto: "Creating controversey for controversey's sake, since GTA."
How does anyone find this entertaining? Gears of War was insanely gory, but you were blowing away alien ass. This is all just over the top insane, torture, psychopath murdering.
It's different in grand theft auto because you don't feel a sense of...torture and it's all in a cartoony fashion but this...I don't know. I would never have fun with this. I still don't think it should be banned, but why would you want this?
It seems as if they sat in a room and said, "how can we kill people in the most sickening and horrifying way for no reason at all?"
"I know! We'll shovel a guy's head off!"
...I feel bad for saying that this game is too much for no reason, but it's true. And I'd sound like a hypocrite for playing games like Mortal Kombat and Gears of War, to other people, but I know as gamers you guys understand the difference between a good spirited fatality and ripping someone's testicles off with some pliers just for the fuck of it.
It's different in grand theft auto because you don't feel a sense of...torture and it's all in a cartoony fashion but this...I don't know. I would never have fun with this. I still don't think it should be banned, but why would you want this?
It seems as if they sat in a room and said, "how can we kill people in the most sickening and horrifying way for no reason at all?"
"I know! We'll shovel a guy's head off!"
...I feel bad for saying that this game is too much for no reason, but it's true. And I'd sound like a hypocrite for playing games like Mortal Kombat and Gears of War, to other people, but I know as gamers you guys understand the difference between a good spirited fatality and ripping someone's testicles off with some pliers just for the fuck of it.
I disagree.
I think that the brutality has a purpose. It's letting us, the player, take a glimpse at the sadism of Leo Kasper, and how he has influenced Daniel Lamb into becoming a violent serial killer. The brutality could also be a form of outlet for the personality of "Leo". A way of letting "it all out" at those he feels has wronged him somehow.
That's my way of seeing, anyway
I think that the brutality has a purpose. It's letting us, the player, take a glimpse at the sadism of Leo Kasper, and how he has influenced Daniel Lamb into becoming a violent serial killer. The brutality could also be a form of outlet for the personality of "Leo". A way of letting "it all out" at those he feels has wronged him somehow.
That's my way of seeing, anyway
I completely agree about the lack of emotion. For the same reason I don't like slasher movies, the only thing the scenes will evoke out of me is wincing.
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That's the problem with snuff in general I suppose. You go into it already knowing the ending. At least throw out some witty (or even cringe-worthy) one liners! Hand saw a guy from anus to neck? Make a comment on how he shouldn't be constipated anymore. Smother him with a shopping bag? Drop the classic "paper of plastic" line.
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On a related note, how exactly does one who isn't an little child die from a plastic bag choking? I mean, it a friggen' plastic bag, just rip it. Maybe I just haven't explored it enough, but it seems pretty simple to me. :p
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That's the problem with snuff in general I suppose. You go into it already knowing the ending. At least throw out some witty (or even cringe-worthy) one liners! Hand saw a guy from anus to neck? Make a comment on how he shouldn't be constipated anymore. Smother him with a shopping bag? Drop the classic "paper of plastic" line.
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On a related note, how exactly does one who isn't an little child die from a plastic bag choking? I mean, it a friggen' plastic bag, just rip it. Maybe I just haven't explored it enough, but it seems pretty simple to me. :p
I mean, to bad the game play is so bad, i would loved playing a game like this if you actually had the control, not just trigger some action sequence. that is what sucks about this game. but watching people get messed up like this is really funny... LOL
ITS FICTION! so its fun...
ITS FICTION! so its fun...
Well yeah, the game sure looks like poo, but i guess it will be a hit among pubescent boys, maybe a little bit like the faces of death movies or rotten was back in my teenager days.
It's just for showing off, not actually enjoying it or anything.
Lame comparison, i know.
It's just for showing off, not actually enjoying it or anything.
Lame comparison, i know.
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What the hell?
What the hell?
This isn't artistic. This is violence for the sake of violence. What makes this enjoyable? Rockstar should stick to beating whores with bats and ping pong.
Yeah it just felt empty. It might be because all the scenes are out of context, but I doubt it.
I don't have a lot more to say besides agreeing with Jim.
I don't have a lot more to say besides agreeing with Jim.
If they made it like a survivor horror game with real people rather than zombies it would be fun. Like sam fisher escaping from a jail using only what he can find lying around
I'm with Fullgore, and Knives brings up a good point. The video was meant to be a demonstration of the various kills. Just because you can use them, doesn't mean you need to in every possible scenario. Obviously, the brutality makes more sense within the context of the story...more particularly when you realize how fucked up the characters are.
By the way, if you guys think Manhunt is 100% devoid of any sort of artistic quality or merit, you need to educate yourself on a series called "August Underground".
That's the real deplorable shit that has no place on this planet.
By the way, if you guys think Manhunt is 100% devoid of any sort of artistic quality or merit, you need to educate yourself on a series called "August Underground".
That's the real deplorable shit that has no place on this planet.
I just laughed and laughed while I watched that.
I found it hilarious, that corporate actually approved this and hired full time developers to make this. People are fucking stupid and demented. Sure, I can reason that coders and animators need jobs, and they'll do whatever they need to keep said jobs, but someone had to make the decision that "This is the direction we want to move in".
And what a great direction it is. I just roofled at the different amount of ways that were animated to kill. Someone was being very creative there. What a crying shame - they couldve focused at a more productive direction and maybe accentuate the better things about Grand Theft Auto instead of taking the hooker beating simulator and expanding on it.
I found it hilarious, that corporate actually approved this and hired full time developers to make this. People are fucking stupid and demented. Sure, I can reason that coders and animators need jobs, and they'll do whatever they need to keep said jobs, but someone had to make the decision that "This is the direction we want to move in".
And what a great direction it is. I just roofled at the different amount of ways that were animated to kill. Someone was being very creative there. What a crying shame - they couldve focused at a more productive direction and maybe accentuate the better things about Grand Theft Auto instead of taking the hooker beating simulator and expanding on it.
I kinda get the feeling that most people judge the game based solely on the showreel. Not even bothering to check the game out themselves. I may be wrong, and I'm just assuming here but seriously, that's the vibe I'm getting here.
If you haven't, then...
It's empty because you haven't invested any time actually playing the part that comes before these. The tension of finding a proper hiding place, the thrill of inching your way towards your target, the uneasiness you get when you decide to leave the safety of the shadows, the suspense you get when hear those far-off noises, the satisfaction you get when finally manage to bring down your would-be killer. Without these prior moments, your right, these are just acts without emotion, without "heart". Not entertaining at all.
If you haven't, then...
It's empty because you haven't invested any time actually playing the part that comes before these. The tension of finding a proper hiding place, the thrill of inching your way towards your target, the uneasiness you get when you decide to leave the safety of the shadows, the suspense you get when hear those far-off noises, the satisfaction you get when finally manage to bring down your would-be killer. Without these prior moments, your right, these are just acts without emotion, without "heart". Not entertaining at all.
Well said Jim. I'm as much for videogame violence as the next gamer, I am for the next Gears of War or Mortal Kombat. But this crap seems far too real and something that should never reach store shelves. It was tasteless, pointless, and plus the graphics suck. Good thing this game wasn't built for the PS3 or 360.
I couldn't even watch that whole video - I can't even see how anyone can call that fun. It's like having to sit through all those damn Japanese RPG cutscenes that you just can't skip, except instead of funky haired big eye children talking about saving the Earth from the evil corporation, you're stick will seeing a man getting half his faced pulled off with a crow bar.
Seriously it's true, Rockstar can't do anything but make a GTA game, everything else they do is undeserving of any attention no matter how retarded/violent the subject matter is.
Seriously it's true, Rockstar can't do anything but make a GTA game, everything else they do is undeserving of any attention no matter how retarded/violent the subject matter is.
lol the saw kills were the best.
Also, someone should superimpose Jack Thompson's head onto all of the victims and have that Benny Hill song playing in the background :)
Also, someone should superimpose Jack Thompson's head onto all of the victims and have that Benny Hill song playing in the background :)
@Fullgore
I know the feeling i would get watching any of those scenes while playing the game would be different, but still, the lack of emotion is a turn off, at least to me.
I admit that I haven't played Manhunt, but you mention being tense, feeling satisfaction and all that while playing, why is that not reflected in the character in those vids? I could be missing something critical for not playing the game or maybe they just cut out some stuff, but is that how the character is supposed to act?
I know the feeling i would get watching any of those scenes while playing the game would be different, but still, the lack of emotion is a turn off, at least to me.
I admit that I haven't played Manhunt, but you mention being tense, feeling satisfaction and all that while playing, why is that not reflected in the character in those vids? I could be missing something critical for not playing the game or maybe they just cut out some stuff, but is that how the character is supposed to act?
i agree it goes to far when..well you cant really call it killing because its overdone if its suppose to be about stealth what ever happened to just slitting the enemies throat instead he stabs them multiple times(more than needed) or puts a bag on there heads and beats the shit outta them and its not like i have a problem with violence(hell my dad plays GTA with me sometimes)its just that this kind of violence is tasteless
I'm glad Manhunt 2 exists. Is it boring as hell? Probably. Will I buy or rent it? Nope. Did I even finish that clip reel? Nah, I stopped it about 2 minutes in. But regardless of it's quality I am appreciative of the folks who try to "push the limits" of any given art medium. There NEEDS to be those people who push the boundaries of what's acceptable, extreme, boring, tasteless, vulgar, shocking, etc. I'm not debating whether or not this is a good game or if it's even worth playing. Radical pieces of art whether it be films, books or even video games keep things interesting, creates dialog among people and most importantly exercises and puts to the test our first amendment rights.
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