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The state of gaming in Trinidad and Tobago: Last gen piracy is alive and well photo

Please allow me to interrupt a slow news day with tales of piracy from the True Caribbean, as locals call it.  I was recently in Scarborough, Tobago with some friends and noticed this haunting sign plastered on a sign post.  It reads "Three PlayStation 2 games for $120".  It sounds about right in US dollars but this is Trini currency, which exchanges at roughly 1/6 of American dollars.  If you do the math ($120 divided $6 then divided by 3 games) those PS2 games would run you about $6.50 US a pop.  I don't think Sony is being generous to developing countries! 

Sure enough, small strip malls largely carry burned games and there's little or no sign of Wii, 360, and PS3 systems.  Are the locals aware that newer games are available, and do they care?  One prominent shop keeper near the airport barely understood my question. "Games aren't that popular here -- maybe in 5-7 years." 

Back in Port of Spain, Trinidad the scene is a little different.  One source who wished to remain anonymous said "A few people have those newer things, but nobody buys games retail here (chomps on Doubles, beans frothing everywhere) mwhahuhgm ummm uy kiiidfs  yum uhmm slurp (*enthusiastic fingerlicks*) most games come from South America that's a few miles off the coast and the young people mostly trade old games anyway". As we drove around I couldn't find a game shop anywhere. KFC, however, was at every other corner!

While I'm sure that the ministry doesn't condone it, they probably have bigger fish to fry. I suppose if we all had the choice of Halo's or parading in the streets drunk with energetic half-naked women for three months in the year even hardcore dorks might game a little less.

I had little chance in hell that these people would read Destructoid so for the rest of my trip I shut my mouth and ate my shark bake, soaking in the mountains and rum.

 








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CannibalCalvin 's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2007 15:38
CannibalCalvin
Cheap games?

I'm in.
Y0j1mb0's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2007 15:39
Y0j1mb0
I'm appalled you didn't purchase any games for investigative reasons.
Niero's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2007 15:40
Niero
heh, I paid retail for God of War 1 already :)
Neonie's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2007 15:46
Neonie
Dident know they were so into chiken.
Mr Wilson's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2007 15:52
Mr Wilson
My ex was from Trinidad. She told me that there was about 328475238470134985018 KFC's just in the part she was staying in...cant remeber where though..
Justice's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2007 15:54
Justice
I'm half Trinidadian!
Yes there is alot of murder, and piracy, and KFC's!
Alael's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2007 16:01
Alael
I don´t blame the guys. I face the same situation where I live. The ONLY option to get your games is piracy - the only company that did officially sell their stuff here was Sega, back in the Master System / Mega Drive days.
Niero's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2007 16:01
Niero
KFC taking over Trinidad is actually the bigger story here, as you already noticed. McDonalds apparently tried to come in and all five stores folded. They could not compete with the colonel!
Eschatos's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2007 16:05
Eschatos
How about replacing all KFCs with Game stores?
Mr Wilson's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2007 16:09
Mr Wilson
or replacing all game stores with....Subways??? The sub shop not the mode of public transportation.
Aerox's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2007 16:09
Aerox
You totally posted this just to brag that you went to the Caribbean :P
Niero's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2007 16:20
Niero
@Aerox - unfortunately it was a very short business trip :(
LilJimmyNordin's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2007 16:22
LilJimmyNordin
What is it with places called Scarborough and piracy? Every Chinese shopping mall in Scarborough, Ontario (and most everywhere else in the GTA) has at least one store with binders full of covers and a guy running back and forth between the counter and his car in the parking lot where he keeps all the burnage.
Teta's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2007 16:26
Teta
Piracy, that´s so common here.
You can get PS2 games for less than US$1, and 360, and Wii games for about US$7.
Of course you need to flash your 360 and chip your Wii or PS2.
Games are actually quiete popular here, but 3rd world countries don´t characterize themselves for being wealthy, and US$60 for a game is money that sometimes is earned after 2 weeks of working on a regular job.
Some day i am gonna work on a long ass post on my blog about piracy here in Perú.
BahamutZero's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2007 16:27
BahamutZero
what business do you have in trinidad and tobago? where there are no games?

how many people have you murdered in the name of your drug cartel niero? HOW MANY?
Niero's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2007 16:34
Niero
@Teta - Its pretty common in Havana as well. I was there 3 years ago and burned ps2 games were everywhere.

@ Bahamut - I've killed at least 3 people, mostly through my cooking.
Teta's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2007 16:41
Teta
Speaking of Trinidad and Tobago, isn´t that buisness trip made of perfect beaches, rum and trying to pose beside the topless women?
Hamza CTZ Aziz's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2007 17:04
Hamza CTZ Aziz
You ate a shark?! You're more shark than me now
0bshaky's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2007 17:09
0bshaky
When you live in a tropical island with no shitty weather and beautiful beaches and a lot of beautiful local and tourist girls, theres little need for video games.
9to5's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2007 17:13
9to5
Pirates of the Caribbean indeed.

I'm fucking freezing as I write this in jolly old England. Caribbean business trips my arse! Lucky git
Joseph Leray's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2007 17:20
Joseph Leray
@Teta -- I'm American, and even I think $60 for new games is too much. I don't understand why people buy them. That's not to say I pirate games, but I definitely wait until they're cheaper. When there are books, food, gas, clothes, a new car, and a new computer to be bought, then games become (unfortunately) a second concern. When you factor beer into the equation ...
savagesaladin's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2007 17:28
savagesaladin
Quit making up places.
Fading Star's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2007 17:40
Fading Star
@Savagesaladin
Lol.


"As we drove around I couldn't find a game shop anywhere. KFC, however, was at every other corner!" Those un/lucky bastards.
casualweaponry's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2007 18:10
casualweaponry
Reminds me of when I was in the Ukraine in 2000.

You couldn't buy anything LEGIT there. It was all huge ass flea markets with pirated crap everywhere. You haven't lived until you watch an American comedy with a dry Ukrainian dub of the English language doing the translation.
Mr Ahh's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2007 18:23
Mr Ahh
Whoa hold on. This post made me join.

I'm from barbados which is a few miles away. And we don't have it like that here, our dollar is 2 to 1 with the US, first thing and games cost about $150. Next thing there are 360s everywhere and the most found system is the PS2. I personally know 13 people with PS3s and sadly only one Wii owner. I only get 5MB down in bandwidth which is good enough and if you don't have cable you have Direct tv. All I'm saying is all of the Caribbean isn't "third world" as you guys put it. That's all I'm saying.
Cheeburga's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2007 18:23
Cheeburga
That's pretty pathetic.
Niero's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2007 19:18
Niero
Mr Ahh -- that's cool to hear. Some islands and cities are more developed than others, obviously. Nobody's knocking the Caribbean as third world, I don't think. Hell, its too expensive usually :)

I think you can buy a pearl-coated PS3 necklace on Paradise Island, actually. It weighs about 90 pounds but its PIMP
rubadub's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2007 19:27
rubadub
I played wow with a bunch of people from Trinidad. They were easily the most fun people ive ever gamed with.
Awesome Locks's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2007 19:53
Awesome Locks
I used to know this guy from Trinidad, he was in my wow guild. Every raid with him was THE BEST RAID ever.

Never really talked to him about ridiculous game prices though, only other thing he ever talked about was this Garou emulator that you could play online.
Bob Muir's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2007 20:12
Bob Muir
If you're going to pirate games, why pay at all? Modchips or swap discs are easy enough to use, after which pirating games is easy. I'm surprised how bootlegs still get by.
BlackbeardonGuitar's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2007 21:51
BlackbeardonGuitar
What kind of business? I'm just curious, I'd like to go to trinidad sometime so anyway to combine the caribbean with business sounds appealing.
Niero's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2007 22:20
Niero
I'm an award-stealing web designer. People sometimes hire me to talk to other people about what they should do to attract other people through a series of tubes.
driph's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2007 22:44
driph
Here's a ps2 game burning shop I ran across while in Vietnam this summer:

[img]http://driph.com/random/viet_ps2.jpg[/img

Inside they had a board with box art across the front of it. Choose the titles and for a small fee they'd make you some copies.

Tons of internet cafes in the cities as well, almost one on every corner (with access costing 3-5000 dong/hr, about 25 cents).
driph's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2007 22:45
driph
Grr.

Here's a ps2 game burning shop I ran across while in Vietnam this summer:



Inside they had a board with box art across the front of it. Choose the titles and for a small fee they'd make you some copies.

Tons of internet cafes in the cities as well, almost one on every corner (with access costing 3-5000 dong/hr, about 25 cents).
Velt's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2007 22:48
Velt
Yeah Im from the third world too, this is very common here. The PS2 hits the top because it is easy to crack and not so expensive. You can find blank dvd´s everywere so there you got a market...
plus the ps2 has a ton of games. The most popular is a soccer game.

Piracy is common here, I blame that developers and console makers dont give a crap anyway. Here they want to sell me a 360 for 800 usd, an old one, and charge me 80 dollars for a game. I dont earn cash in dollars, so its actually more expensive.
itemforty's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2007 23:15
itemforty
Niero, I know this is random, but I always enjoy your posts.
Thanks for listening,
-mgmt
Aaron Mxy Yost's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/19/2007 14:40
Aaron Mxy Yost
Thank god I was born white and privileged.
Jarrox's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/20/2007 11:00
Jarrox
First to begin we have available to us here in T&T any and every game out there original or burnt. Yes there is alot of piracy but that is because an original game cost an average of about 70 - 100 US$ but there are a quite a few of us that do buy original and we even use Live :o as far as KFC goes yes we have a few and i guess that is why we have the most successful KFC in the world . open 24/7 and always busy. McDonald closed down because their prices were high and food quality was not that good... SubWay does good business quiznos not so good burger king is also doing good, there prices are a bit high but the food is good... In all we are not the KFC eating Pirates you make us out to be....
Crixxtachi's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/20/2007 12:03
Crixxtachi
Hello and good day.
Iam an administrator of one of TRINIDAD'S gaming communities called G.A.T.T (Gamers Association of trinidad and tobago), website, gatt.carigamers.com. Gatt is a member of the larger carigamers association which includes many Caribbean nations.

One of our members came across this article while surfing and shared it with us. Aside from the issue of piracy that you brought up, we were pretty much disgusted by the narrow minded ignorance/ border line racism that was being spread about Trinidad. The KFC comments and the very skewered view of what our local gaming scene is like, hurt us, and we would really like to give yall a better view of what our country is like. So please visist www.gatt.carigamers.com as well as www.trinigamers.com to learn more about us before continuing to spread such a bad word about us ^_^.
SPK's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/20/2007 12:28
SPK
There are many things that I have to disagree on, with regards to what I've been reading in here...but I have to agree that piracy is quite rampant in Trinidad and Tobago. It is quite expensive for people to invest in some of the newer consoles here (most people complain about $500 is expensive for a console, try buying the same console for nearly $5000 as well as games for $300+, while working with a salary of about $2500-$3000 a month). For many people, it's more economical to buy pirated stuff.

I'm not much of a console guy, more dedicated PC - last console I owned was a NES >_<. Some games I have are not original, but when I come across a game that I know I really want, I save and get the game original, at the expense of an arm, a leg and maybe my spleen. In addition, I'm not the only one who's willing to do so here...

This "analysis" as to the gaming environment in T&T is like going into the middle of the Bronx and analysing "the presence of high quality penthouses available in the USA". It's narrow-minded and gives an unfairly skewed perspective, so I hope that people take this article with a pinch of salt.

As for the discriminatory references here, I'm not going to touch that, else this post will end up being about 4 times its current length, so I'll leave it there for now.

As Crixxtachi said above, take a look at the websites listed there, we're not quite as backwards as the author makes us out to be.

SPK.
Lillith's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/20/2007 16:44
Lillith
i'm not going to justify piracy in any way but were do u think the torrents come from or cracks or keygens for that matter, most of them come from beautiful USA, so take your doble standars and put them where the light doesn't shine.
New Era Outlaw's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/20/2007 20:55
New Era Outlaw
Hey, Knee Row....I'm a gamer from Trinidad, and, needless to say, I severely disagree with your little review of the gaming scenario in Trinidad and Tobago.

First of all, you said nobody buys games retail here, right?
ECK! Sorry, Charlie. While many people buy pirated games down here, my entire collection is 100% original, from the Wii (yes, I do own one. Surprised?) and PS2 titles straight down to my PS1 and DS collection. There are no copies to be found there. Also, if we take what you said literally, then places like Shelltech Electronics, The Game Zone, Gamez Plus, Toymart and countless others I won't go into right now would go clean out of business, as retail video games make up 50% or more of their business. And, to date, they are all doing quite well.

Secondly....you asked a random guy eating doubles about games? Why didn't you ask the tooth fairy about the Dewey Decimal System, while you're at it? Oh, and while we're at it.....what 'prominent' shop keeper at the airport did you speak to to get this educated and well-researched response that 'games aren't popular here'? Does he/she/it have a name? What's her field of business? Point is, you asked two people who probably don't know jack S**T about video games in Trinidad and Tobago, and decided to pen an article based on that.

By the way, you couldn't find a game store?
What did you do, drive around BLINDFOLDED, or something?
There are gaming stores in Trincity Mall, Movie Towne, Consort Mall, Mid Centre Mall, The Game Zone in Curepe, World Plus in Chaguanas and Tunapuna and countless others I won't list here that I could find DRUNK. You probably took a dive in some canal somewhere and decided, "Good enuff, lol" and came back to pen this CRAP.


By the way, I am so glad to know that you can simply gauge the worth of a country based on how many KFC's we've got. True, there's one on every corner, but it's only because it's extremely popular down here. Do you see us busting your chops because there are probably that many Wal-Marts and Burger King restaurants all over the place? No. So take your 'They lieks fryed chikaan, lol' talk and shove it.

And thirdly, from that last paragraph, you probably thought that we were so 'primitive' that we won't read your inane little article about us and comment on it. Well, guess what. We're here, and some of us don't take kindly to being referred to in that sense.

So, Knee Row. Hear what. How about you actually give a damn and do some proper research on countries like ours, and we consider your article a notch above somebody puking in a airsick bag? Mind you, I wouldn't be surprised if you did just that on the way back, scanned it when you went back home, and posted it up here.

In other words, YOU FAIL.
Thank you, and good night!
Captain Awesome's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/20/2007 21:01
Captain Awesome
KneeRow is an idiot. How can one judge an entire country by talking to one random "prominent" shop keeper and a single sign? Lets not even get into the KFC thing. Not only is that the most ignorant statement coming from the mouth of a supposed "first worlder", I wonder why so many Americans are so overweight these days. Maybe its the constant diet of leafy greens and vegetables hmmm? Just so you know, yes I am a Trinidadian, and buy my games ORIGINAL to play on my GAMING pc, and by the by, our gaming pc's consist of C2D's and 8800's etc, just in case you think we run NV5200's.
BahamutZero's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/21/2007 01:05
BahamutZero
Niero I do believe you have been served.

:(
BahamutZero's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/21/2007 01:08
BahamutZero
sorry, Knee Row
Aaron Mxy Yost's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/21/2007 02:21
Aaron Mxy Yost
Are there whambulances in Trinidad?
Crixxtachi's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/21/2007 05:16
Crixxtachi
and btw
the doubles the random guy was eating at the side of the road
had PEAS in it, not BEANS!

wow, he cant even tell the difference between peas and beans
top notch investigative skillz there mengz
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/21/2007 10:43
Jim Sterling
Wow, Trinidad is home to some sensitive bitches, right?
Niero's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/21/2007 12:04
Niero
Like the article says, I asked various locals and even guys that ran shops. I was up and down the country over four days -- its a 7 x 21 mile island, right? Strange that I didn't meet ANYONE that echoed the sentiments in these comments.

If what you said is true, then go preach to the people on the street because I'm only calling it like I see it.
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