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So what you're saying, is that the biggest even for video games is full of the same kind of people you'd find in high school and they all act like children.
@Holly Green
with more and more companies accepting the ratio of openly homosexual men in society, and the female journalists finally getting the respect they so much deserve...
In your opinion, which would happen first: more "booth hunks" at events, or the removal of product models all together?
as a follow up, which would you LIKE to happen first?
with more and more companies accepting the ratio of openly homosexual men in society, and the female journalists finally getting the respect they so much deserve...
In your opinion, which would happen first: more "booth hunks" at events, or the removal of product models all together?
as a follow up, which would you LIKE to happen first?
Seeing the way that some boy gamers talk to women gamers is sick. Booth babes purvey that problem. What, no Chip N' Dales performers at the Tomb Raider booth? Why not? It's got a female protagonist and everything! I mean, who are we trying to appeal to, here?
Yes I am a girl AND a gamer. But don't treat me like a girl you silly boys. Did I mention I'm a girl?
What I wouldn't give for some "sexual attention in a professional atmosphere".
I work from home.
Also Holly Green, wheres mah pix plzktnxkbai
I work from home.
Also Holly Green, wheres mah pix plzktnxkbai
Tip #5 Made my day. I hope one day that works. I mean if we really want more women to game with us we should give them the same comforts we enjoy at these events. Respect, a safe and fun environment, and equal opportunity eye candy, bring on the Male Booth Babes if we have to.
RE: Male booth babes...that's kind of a loaded question and I'd rather reserve that discussion for a more serious article. I wrote this one just to have a laugh and maybe relieve some of the tension from a very emotional topic.
I'm curious if things are as bad as other events like GDC or PAX East/Prime, or if they are overall the same as E3.
Which way do you mean, ccesarano? I notice PAX Prime is much more crowded and people have less courtesy for not wandering into your shot.
I should be clear that I've never been hit on at any convention but that's probably because I wear a "ASK ME ABOUT MY SPASTIC COLON" button.
I should be clear that I've never been hit on at any convention but that's probably because I wear a "ASK ME ABOUT MY SPASTIC COLON" button.
I am pro male booth babes. As for tip #6, I did notice at PAX East it was unusually easy to find an open spot in the women's bathroom for an event that size, and yet I thought there were quite a lot of women there. But, I imagine the industry is still playing catch up in this respect a lot more than consumer conventions.
Wow, usually when I ask women to fart during sex they call me a freak, your saying you'll do it without me asking? Now I definitely want you to marry me.
How rude.
How rude.
Perhaps women can learn from recent political debates and just say "vagina," or better yet scream "Maxi-pad!" if accosted by unwanted male attention.
Funny list, probably would have been even funnier before this years, or next years, show however.
Tips 1,2 and 4 felt like Aisha Tyler wrote them, because they went right for crude toilet humor.. As if that was really going to keep guys away... Seriously, I don't really know one guy who'd be turned away by a beautiful girl who likes what they like, but farts during sex. I just see a log of dudes shrugging.
The third one, honestly, is a tip for everyone, not just women.. But you also have to remember last years show (or I think it was, they bleed together), when some dude tried to rob source code from some company (I forgot which).. People do get caught, which is really weird when your packed like sardines like that.
I really don't get the point of 5.. Doing that really doesn't help those other women out any.
Tip 6 and 7 is sound however. And 7 kind of negates most of the first part of this list completely, like I mentioned before..
@Kyousuke Nanbu
Well, that and that you have to act just like them in order to get through the week.
Tips 1,2 and 4 felt like Aisha Tyler wrote them, because they went right for crude toilet humor.. As if that was really going to keep guys away... Seriously, I don't really know one guy who'd be turned away by a beautiful girl who likes what they like, but farts during sex. I just see a log of dudes shrugging.
The third one, honestly, is a tip for everyone, not just women.. But you also have to remember last years show (or I think it was, they bleed together), when some dude tried to rob source code from some company (I forgot which).. People do get caught, which is really weird when your packed like sardines like that.
I really don't get the point of 5.. Doing that really doesn't help those other women out any.
Tip 6 and 7 is sound however. And 7 kind of negates most of the first part of this list completely, like I mentioned before..
@Kyousuke Nanbu
Well, that and that you have to act just like them in order to get through the week.
As a man, I try very hard not to stare at the breasts of females at these conventions. Instead, I look deep into their eyes and rub my cock with my hand in my pocket until I shoot thick spurts of come all over my boxers and thighs.
and I should say again for emphasis: I've never been hit on at a convention. I don't feel I've ever really been condescended to either. That's not to say it hasn't happened to others, I'm just not speaking from that experience is all.
Games journalism is a joke, this is true of anywhere, just because D-toid makes fun of it doesn't exempt them from this, its a very misogynistic industry, look anywhere and most women who write for gaming sites are usually very attractive, hell I once heard an interview with Morgan Webb that was sickening in how just how bad things are, and how she's primarily judged by her looks, not her knowledge.
If anything the game industry, game journalism and gamers themselves need a more open mind in regards to who is speaking to them, that last one is the biggest issue sadly.
Ever watching fighting game streams? Hell any stream with mostly males? Whenever a woman pops into the frame or heaven forbid she's playing the game feature its just wall to wall insanity in regards to insults and tired old cliches like get into the kitchen and other nonsense.
I think every aspect of gaming as a whole needs to change so this shit stops, looking down on female gamers, the general treatment of good female writers or hell any prominent female figure within the games industry, Holly shouldn't have to appear as a spastic retard just get people to leave her alone.
If anything the game industry, game journalism and gamers themselves need a more open mind in regards to who is speaking to them, that last one is the biggest issue sadly.
Ever watching fighting game streams? Hell any stream with mostly males? Whenever a woman pops into the frame or heaven forbid she's playing the game feature its just wall to wall insanity in regards to insults and tired old cliches like get into the kitchen and other nonsense.
I think every aspect of gaming as a whole needs to change so this shit stops, looking down on female gamers, the general treatment of good female writers or hell any prominent female figure within the games industry, Holly shouldn't have to appear as a spastic retard just get people to leave her alone.
LMAO! These are great... I particularly love number 5... and if I manage to make it to PAX next year - I'm gonna do that one for sure!!
I have to say that for the past two years that I've attended PAX I never felt out of place at all and was treated the same as any of the other gamers there.
I have to say that for the past two years that I've attended PAX I never felt out of place at all and was treated the same as any of the other gamers there.
@Holly Green, sorry my phrasing was bad.
I've heard a lot of people say events like PAX East are better for gamers as a whole, and I know I've enjoyed a lot of the atmosphere at such locations.
At the same time, when I was at PAX East this year I kept hearing people say things like "there were more girls last year" or "all the girls are at Anime Boston instead". It's the sort of thing I've stopped noticing at this point in time, but it makes me wonder if other folks come in with different intentions.
The closest personal experience I have is a woman at the Capcom booth being there just for promotion with no idea how the games really played or the stations worked versus getting to speak with a woman that was an actual representative of Sega to answer all of my questions about Aliens: Colonial Marines (after I had already asked several of a woman demoing the game inside the booth, and the biggest reason I asked either of them questions was because they were there and willing to answer. Anyone else was either absent or simply not really responding).
So to summarize: when you go to an event like GDC or PAX, where there is a lot less glitz and glamor, a lack of DeVry students and investors, do the men seem to treat women as unfairly? Or does it seem to be as much of a problem? Or is it more common at E3 because of the nature of it all?
I've heard a lot of people say events like PAX East are better for gamers as a whole, and I know I've enjoyed a lot of the atmosphere at such locations.
At the same time, when I was at PAX East this year I kept hearing people say things like "there were more girls last year" or "all the girls are at Anime Boston instead". It's the sort of thing I've stopped noticing at this point in time, but it makes me wonder if other folks come in with different intentions.
The closest personal experience I have is a woman at the Capcom booth being there just for promotion with no idea how the games really played or the stations worked versus getting to speak with a woman that was an actual representative of Sega to answer all of my questions about Aliens: Colonial Marines (after I had already asked several of a woman demoing the game inside the booth, and the biggest reason I asked either of them questions was because they were there and willing to answer. Anyone else was either absent or simply not really responding).
So to summarize: when you go to an event like GDC or PAX, where there is a lot less glitz and glamor, a lack of DeVry students and investors, do the men seem to treat women as unfairly? Or does it seem to be as much of a problem? Or is it more common at E3 because of the nature of it all?
Occam's comment really made me laugh. I wasn't expecting that at all.
Tip 3 sounds like something already do... Use to do at school job fairs.
Also, I'm pro-booth hunks, because why shouldn't guys get paid to stand around and look pretty.
Tip 3 sounds like something already do... Use to do at school job fairs.
Also, I'm pro-booth hunks, because why shouldn't guys get paid to stand around and look pretty.
Well I've actually never really had an overtly sexist experience at a convention either way, but I would *imagine* it to be less of a problem from the professional side of things at a fan event, simply because it's about kissing fan's butts. On the other hand, E3 is supposed to be for professionals, so you would expect more out of their conduct. Since I haven't had an offensive experience either way, it's just not fair for me to say one way or another.
I doubt any of this stuff is common at most gaming conventions, as male and female gamers go to the conventions to fap over new gameplay and technology. Even the booth babes provide a momentary distraction to hetero males and sometimes annoyance from what I've heard and read.
It seems to me that most attacks towards women in gaming occur on the Internet, which is not really all that surprising given the (stereotypical yet still inherently true) nature of the demographic.
It seems to me that most attacks towards women in gaming occur on the Internet, which is not really all that surprising given the (stereotypical yet still inherently true) nature of the demographic.
Funny, true, but terrible for bringing up the monumentally bullshit "women and video games topic".
Until ALL sides can grow up about this "issue" it needs to remain firmly in the STFU category.
The analogies are endless, the arguments pointless and flawed, and the bloggers (of note the super opinionated female variety) are fanning the flames for hits.
This is in an industry we all CLAIM to love that is falling to absolute shambles, yet folks (of note super opinionated female bloggers) want to have pissing matches over "hey I'm one of those, I dont like that portrayal, TO WAR!!!"
Anyway, was funny
Until ALL sides can grow up about this "issue" it needs to remain firmly in the STFU category.
The analogies are endless, the arguments pointless and flawed, and the bloggers (of note the super opinionated female variety) are fanning the flames for hits.
This is in an industry we all CLAIM to love that is falling to absolute shambles, yet folks (of note super opinionated female bloggers) want to have pissing matches over "hey I'm one of those, I dont like that portrayal, TO WAR!!!"
Anyway, was funny
@Holly Green Thanks for your honesty and response.
@Randy Yeah, how dare people get pissed about being generalized into certain ideas and roles and being treated as objects of sexual titilation (tee hee!) instead of respected as any other journalist or business man on the floor. While we're at it, how about all them gays stop pissing their pants so badly about people saying fag all the time on Xbox Live? They just need to grow some thicker skin rather than encourage people to be respectful and civilized, amirite bro dawg yo?
@Randy Yeah, how dare people get pissed about being generalized into certain ideas and roles and being treated as objects of sexual titilation (tee hee!) instead of respected as any other journalist or business man on the floor. While we're at it, how about all them gays stop pissing their pants so badly about people saying fag all the time on Xbox Live? They just need to grow some thicker skin rather than encourage people to be respectful and civilized, amirite bro dawg yo?
OH THE TERRIBLE FATE OF THE FAIRER SEX, BEING ABLE TO MANIPULATE THE HORNY MALE INTO TEDIOUS FAVORS AND CHORES FOR EVEN THE SMALLEST AMOUNTS OF ATTENTION...
Another fun tip: Do not bring a DSLR to cons, especially with a press badge. Every time I've done this I've had at least 5 guys be like "Hey...nice camera" and then smile awkwardly at me like I'm supposed to launch into my life story.
The funniest is when guys with hardcore DSLRs compliment me on my camera. Because I own a Nikon D3000, which is really a beginner's DSLR.
The funniest is when guys with hardcore DSLRs compliment me on my camera. Because I own a Nikon D3000, which is really a beginner's DSLR.
What a surprise. Another chick that doesn't have much to say, so takes the fake sexism route.
BORING.
Where's the originality? OH yeah, i forgot, you only get paid .76 cents on the dollar that males do! I forgot! you don't have to work as hard!!!!
If you believe that lie, you're a bigger idiot than you will ever realize.
PS. Woman NEVER check out and flirt with men. NEVER. They are all virginal mommies-to-be with hearts of gold. Awwwww sooooo CUTE.
BORING.
Where's the originality? OH yeah, i forgot, you only get paid .76 cents on the dollar that males do! I forgot! you don't have to work as hard!!!!
If you believe that lie, you're a bigger idiot than you will ever realize.
PS. Woman NEVER check out and flirt with men. NEVER. They are all virginal mommies-to-be with hearts of gold. Awwwww sooooo CUTE.
Just stfu, go to E3 and do your thing. Nobody gives a crap about gender. People are just looking for brownie points for being cool and mainstream by going on anti-sexism/misogyny rants.
hey guys, when you try to be ironic pretending you don't care you have to pretend you're not mad and stuff.
I myself check more butts than boobs, but yeah, it's hard not to look at both. Actually, the same way women are affected by hormones gettind sad/mad/horny in certain times of the month, men are affected getting horny 32h/day. Nature.
Nice writing holly, I have to say, E3 must be the one of the only places there's no lines to the women's bathroom. You see, even a sexist niche can have a good side!
I myself check more butts than boobs, but yeah, it's hard not to look at both. Actually, the same way women are affected by hormones gettind sad/mad/horny in certain times of the month, men are affected getting horny 32h/day. Nature.
Nice writing holly, I have to say, E3 must be the one of the only places there's no lines to the women's bathroom. You see, even a sexist niche can have a good side!
If that's seriously all you both got out of this, I genuinely am concerned for your reading comprehension skills.
Ouch... apparently some of these commenters don't get humor. Ironically they drag out the "fake sexism, anti-misogny, girl looking for attention" stereotype... on an article that is making fun of the male stereotypes that inhabit gaming conventions.
... and they weren't even bright enough to incorporate any humour into their stereotypes. :(
... and they weren't even bright enough to incorporate any humour into their stereotypes. :(
Being a sex farter with a spastic colon seems like a really bad combination.
Or a somewhat unavoidable one.
I'm not really sure how spastic colons work.
Or a somewhat unavoidable one.
I'm not really sure how spastic colons work.
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