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dATs wUt u gET fOr bEIn a MmO. sHOUld'VE mAdE a bADaSS rEgUlAR gAMe wITh aLL dAt bAdAss aRt aNd mARkEtinG. mMo mEanS "wE aINt tOUchIN iT".
That sucks. Seems that those who did get it, enjoyed it. I'd love a sp version. I wish so many publishers/devs would quit chasing WoW and CoD money.
what doc rockso said. the theme and idea look cool, but the execution is that of the mmo variety, so yeah. bleh.
Well that's a bummer. All these MMOs that were conceived years ago when people thought the WoW formula equaled riches are coming out and tanking. Wonder what this means for the next 5 or so years of the genre, and for the Elder Scrolls MMO.
MMO's require far too much user input to be rewarding for must people that don't have time to play them, it's a formula that can't have overcrowding in it's market place. FPS on the other hand can have such things because you don't need to be on constantly to keep up with the changing world in multiplayer because there is none. You can play multiplayer in short bursts and not mind or be completely under powered.
The thing is this game is FAR FAR away from being any kind of WOW clone. It's really smart and inventive. It's true, the marketing was really badly done. However .... the game is live and there is a 3 day free trial on the main page. Sign up, log in, check it out.
@Zambatoh: Lost in purgatory since it's not Battlefield3/Madden/FIFA.
Factor in EA's logo on the game, despite lack of involvement, and even less people with touch it.
Factor in EA's logo on the game, despite lack of involvement, and even less people with touch it.
I was hoping this would do better. Do well even. Then again I didn't buy it or even play the demo so that makes me part of the problem. Or something. Experience has taught me to be a late adopter anyway.
I think open world rather than a seires of linear instances is important though.
I think open world rather than a seires of linear instances is important though.
"The game looks very intriguing but as soon as I read "MMO", I move along. Just not interested."
Yep, this.
Yep, this.
There's 3 reasons for this:
1. Guild Wars 2
2. Guild Wars 2
3. It wasn't that great a game in terms of mechanics/controls anyway.
1. Guild Wars 2
2. Guild Wars 2
3. It wasn't that great a game in terms of mechanics/controls anyway.
I don't find MMOs appealing, but for me the main turn-off is the monthly fee. I bought the first Guild Wars mainly because there was no monthly fee. I haven't bought Guild Wars 2 simply because I don't have the time. It not being available on Steam also will delay my purchase.
I think that a Elder Scrolls MMO could be successful if it plays like Skyrim with other players in the world. If it plays like WoW set in Tamriel, then I think it will fail.
I think that a Elder Scrolls MMO could be successful if it plays like Skyrim with other players in the world. If it plays like WoW set in Tamriel, then I think it will fail.
Any MMO that is not Free to Play will fail these days, it cannot complete with Guild Wars 2, and others on the way like PlanetSide 2.
I'd have been much more interested in this if it either
a) wasn't an MMO
or
b) was free to play
I LOVED the concept, but I'm not enough of an MMO fan to pay full retail price for one. Also, mixed reviews didn't help.
a) wasn't an MMO
or
b) was free to play
I LOVED the concept, but I'm not enough of an MMO fan to pay full retail price for one. Also, mixed reviews didn't help.
Was hoping it did well, and really liked what I saw from early gameplay vids, but after factoring in that EA logo on the box, was pretty sure this was a not buy. Blame that on the last two monthly subscription based MMOs I bought that had the EA attached to them...
The whole concept of the game screamed "intriguing single player campaign" to me from the early art and videos. The moment I found out it was an MMO I lost interest and knew I'd never play it.
Had it released on consoles as an epic single player game with a tight story and possibly some online co-op (imagine if it was like Borderlands drop-in/out!), then it would have been a day one buy for me.
I just don't have the time, effort, or desire to continually pay for an MMO.
Had it released on consoles as an epic single player game with a tight story and possibly some online co-op (imagine if it was like Borderlands drop-in/out!), then it would have been a day one buy for me.
I just don't have the time, effort, or desire to continually pay for an MMO.
Love urban legends, the supernatural/occult, cryptzoology and all that but the fact that it was an MMO really killed it for me.
I loved the idea of the game. It's for a very niche audience but I just happen to be right in that niche. I wish they'd just...try to fix the current game instead of making another one or something. Hype this one, it seems like that would be much much cheaper than making an entire new MMO. Especially since I want this one to do well. I was in the beta but I was waiting to see the reception and, if it took off or not, decided if I got it. But it looks like it hasn't and that's disappointing.
I don't mind paying the initial $50/$60, but after that, I'm done. I have no desire to continue to pay a monthly fee for a game that I have no time to play.
It's not that I'm cheap, I just don't see the value in paying $15 a month for a game that I'll lose when I stop paying. Don't take the game from me, just let me play it offline if the money goes to the server costs.
It's not that I'm cheap, I just don't see the value in paying $15 a month for a game that I'll lose when I stop paying. Don't take the game from me, just let me play it offline if the money goes to the server costs.
When a interesting, smart and well thought out MMO gets buried and never given a chance, i blame players more then developers. The fact that it has a trial for you to go try that is a really well thought out trial that even gives you money for the cash shop kinda makes me angry that so few would want to try it. :(
I like the idea behind The Secret World, I really do, but I'm not about to start paying monthly fees to find out if the gameplay also delivers. Get it Free to Play, or better yet make a regular game based on this concept, and I'd definitely check it out.
I didn't even ever heard of this game until now.
I mean how are they going to sell if almost nobody knows it exist ?
I mean how are they going to sell if almost nobody knows it exist ?
well MAYBE if you had made a single-player game or just game that didn't require a subscription fee it would have sold better.
I'm sure everyone agrees with me.
I'm sure everyone agrees with me.
I actually enjoyed what I played from the beta, but I'm not going to support anything with EA's logo on it.
@Lycan:
Wait, are you telling me it was $50+ retail AND you had to pay a monthly fee? No wonder it fucking didn't sell. You can really only expect to get away with that kind of thing if you are an established IP like WoW.
Wait, are you telling me it was $50+ retail AND you had to pay a monthly fee? No wonder it fucking didn't sell. You can really only expect to get away with that kind of thing if you are an established IP like WoW.
Why do you do that to yourself, Funcom? You know you're going to make it F2P. I know it. Everyone knows it. You have an in-game clothing store for God's sake! You thought plenty of people would pay for early access, and two hundred thousand did. There will be no more. Stop pretending and make the game free already. I swear I'll buy an in-game tie. I'll buy all of the ties.
First off, EA only distributed it. They had / have -very- little to do with it.
Second, you lose nothing by trying the Free Trial. I'd recommend this game to anyone; even the people woried about it being an MMO. The Storylines and Missions are, by far, the best done in any MMO.
Really, what I'm trying to get across is not to let your pre-conceived notions of what this game is (based on EA / Funcom / MMOs)prevent you from, at least, trying this gem for free.
Second, you lose nothing by trying the Free Trial. I'd recommend this game to anyone; even the people woried about it being an MMO. The Storylines and Missions are, by far, the best done in any MMO.
Really, what I'm trying to get across is not to let your pre-conceived notions of what this game is (based on EA / Funcom / MMOs)prevent you from, at least, trying this gem for free.
@HaVoK308
Really I can't recall the last time when a dev/pub actually owned up to the problem being that their game was sub par.
It's almost unheard of, there is always an excuse that isn't their game. Its never that their (all these might not apply directly here but in general) "game was tepid" (Hey their mom said their game was cool) or their "business model was seriously outdated", nor that they "blew their dev money on marketing hype they couldn't deliver on" or what have you. It's that they were "ahead of their time" or "pirates" or "pirates" (yeah I used it twice since its such a goto scapegoat*)
This is an industry where their shit don't stink, every game they belch out is a solid gold AAA money printing machine! and if it isn't then PIRATES!
*I'm not saying piracy isn't a real problem but OMFG it is the GOTO excuse when anything hits the fan, ANYTHING! It almost reminds me of that classic fable involving a boy and a wolf >.>
Really I can't recall the last time when a dev/pub actually owned up to the problem being that their game was sub par.
It's almost unheard of, there is always an excuse that isn't their game. Its never that their (all these might not apply directly here but in general) "game was tepid" (Hey their mom said their game was cool) or their "business model was seriously outdated", nor that they "blew their dev money on marketing hype they couldn't deliver on" or what have you. It's that they were "ahead of their time" or "pirates" or "pirates" (yeah I used it twice since its such a goto scapegoat*)
This is an industry where their shit don't stink, every game they belch out is a solid gold AAA money printing machine! and if it isn't then PIRATES!
*I'm not saying piracy isn't a real problem but OMFG it is the GOTO excuse when anything hits the fan, ANYTHING! It almost reminds me of that classic fable involving a boy and a wolf >.>
Im sorry but if you cant get conan over, then you should probably get out of the MMO game...or at least make so you dont necessarily need power rig setup to play decently. just popped in GW2 on my 3 yr old computer, yeah it could look better on a newer setup but my point is it still plays normally. I remember when I first got the computer top spec features available...still had to play age of conan on low settings
I'm on the "it's the gamers' fault" side of this.
You go on and on saying you want something different in an MMO, and once one comes out that is not only as different as you're likely going to get and also really, really good, you don't buy it.
You go on and on saying you want something different in an MMO, and once one comes out that is not only as different as you're likely going to get and also really, really good, you don't buy it.
This game was missing a few standard "Were missing at wow launch too" features like Group Finding tool... But far and away the best scifihorrorfantasy story I've seen in a game. There's some extreme prejudice against mmos these days, and it's unfortunate because many people miss out. I haven't got -too- far into GW2 but from what I have, TSW beat it as far as my interests go.
The saddest part about it though is based on the game itself, they could have had one heck of an awesome viral typed marketing campaign behind it.
The saddest part about it though is based on the game itself, they could have had one heck of an awesome viral typed marketing campaign behind it.
When it goes free I will try it out, it actually looked pretty interesting. I really like the setting, and the mix and match powers reminds me of CoH/CoV. Currently I'm finding it hard to stop playing GW2.
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