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Well, that's disappointing to know. I truly do wish Bruusgaard and the rest of the cut staff all the best.
They charged for the box, a monthly subscription, AND a cash shop so I'm not all that surprised despite TSW being a good game.
Nothing to say about layoffs that doesn't sound cliche. Landing on your feet and best of luck and chins up and etc etc. It all sounds very lame in the face of something that sucks that much. I'm really sorry it happened and I do wish them the best. Good luck guys.
@Gigante
They fail becuse they are MMO´s. WOW already have such a massive slice of the pie that any new game will only be able to fight over the scraps. Trying to make a big expensive game to compete with WOW is madness.
They fail becuse they are MMO´s. WOW already have such a massive slice of the pie that any new game will only be able to fight over the scraps. Trying to make a big expensive game to compete with WOW is madness.
Its a shame, but people don't want to pay subscription fees for MMOS anymore and I don't blame them with the quantity and quality of F2P these days.
I feel bad because I was interested in this game's premise and proposed mythology/world. The fact it's an MMO just put me off though. I'm just not a fan of the genre.
It's a real shame that games like this and Star Wars:TOR get hit with layoffs, because as another commenter put it, everyone just waits for them to go Free to Play. But they do look like interesting games. Just wish they had been made as single player RPGs/3rd Person Action/Shooters.
It's a real shame that games like this and Star Wars:TOR get hit with layoffs, because as another commenter put it, everyone just waits for them to go Free to Play. But they do look like interesting games. Just wish they had been made as single player RPGs/3rd Person Action/Shooters.
The subscription model has been on the decline for years, not even the mighty Star Wars could overcome the fact that there is a large contingent of gamers who don't see value in it anymore. Diablo 3's success only just barely bolstered ActiBliz's bottom line with WoW and CoD, it's two cash cows, contracting.
I hear this game is fun, and I really dig the premise, but it's about 2 or 3 years late to the party. The honey pot has crusted over, and there's no use trying to punch through it when there's probably none left inside anyway.
I hear this game is fun, and I really dig the premise, but it's about 2 or 3 years late to the party. The honey pot has crusted over, and there's no use trying to punch through it when there's probably none left inside anyway.
If this game wasn't full purchase price plus a monthly fee, I probably would have gotten it, and I think a lot of other people would have, too. That whole "we're charging you full price for the game on top of a monthly fee" doesn't fly with me. Choose one or the other, not both.
@Tristrix
The whole people being sorry about layoffs thing always sorta struck me as borderline insincere. Sorta like when I used to work in retail and people would come into the store on Christmas, take their sweet time, hit up the register and be all "Oh I'm sorry they're making you work today"
I guess insincere is probably the wrong word.... since in both cases I'm sure that they meant at least some part of what they were saying but at the same time it really didn't matter to them.
Anyhow
I'm sorry these guys lost their jobs and hope they land on their feet.
The whole people being sorry about layoffs thing always sorta struck me as borderline insincere. Sorta like when I used to work in retail and people would come into the store on Christmas, take their sweet time, hit up the register and be all "Oh I'm sorry they're making you work today"
I guess insincere is probably the wrong word.... since in both cases I'm sure that they meant at least some part of what they were saying but at the same time it really didn't matter to them.
Anyhow
I'm sorry these guys lost their jobs and hope they land on their feet.
F2P isn't the way to it. MMO's should just go the GW2 route and be Buy2Play. The devs still get money, and the players only have to pay once.
Loved the premise of the game and the world. At the end of the day though, there's so much else I want to play that paying a monthly fee just isn't worth it to me.
People are lemmings essentially, indoctrinated by Branding. Blizzard, Trytech, Bungie, Infinity Ward, Value...these are the Apple of gaming. It doesn't matter if something better exists, all these companies need do is release anything, and that's where the money will go. Smaller companies should wait for them to fall from the inside than stand in front of the tank and be run over.
I guess scuffles. I dunno man. I've just been there and know what it's like to suddenly and through no fault of your own find yourself jobless and unable to support yourself and any dependents you might have and I can't help but project a bit when I hear of it happening to others.
One of those rare moments when I really do know that feel, bro.
One of those rare moments when I really do know that feel, bro.
F2P is not a golden savior. Seeing a sharp increase in revenue the first month a game goes F2P doesn't mean that is sustainable. There are a large number of factors involved that will determine if a game survives or not.
For TSW, it didn't help that it was so cliche from the get go.
For TSW, it didn't help that it was so cliche from the get go.
Wait...so the game is full price, sub, and cash shop? Jesus no wonder. The only reason WoW gets away with that shit is because its got such a large player base. People are heavily dedicated to that game. Releasing a new mmo and having all three, thats fucking suicide.
I thought TSW was a great game, but i really didnt feel it was a game i was going to be willing to pay a sub for.
I thought TSW was a great game, but i really didnt feel it was a game i was going to be willing to pay a sub for.
Played the beta and hated the game. Its very niche and the people that occupy that niche will throw a full scale riot if you don't agree that the game is a perfect jewel. After i made some remarks about how the puzzles suck and people will just spam chat or search the internet for answers while playing some jack ass was all "I love the game and already got the lifetime sub". The game wont even make it to 6 months before its FTP.
I hope it never makes it to FTP thow and funcom finally just dies.
I hope it never makes it to FTP thow and funcom finally just dies.
I don't get why Funcom has such a hard-on for MMOs. Sure, if the game becomes popular, it's a highly profitable, but how often does that happen. Even Wow and SWTOR have gone free to play. Guild Wars 2 has done well, but that game has no subscription fees. I wish Funcom would just go back to making adventure/platform games.
I don't think the issue is the "buy the game and pay the subscription." Final Fantasy XI is still going after 10 years. WoW after like 8. With those games you buy the game, pay for all the expansions, and pay a monthly fee. I'll let you in on a secret. You just have to have a game people care about.
it's a crying shame. I thought the marketing of secret world was really good. and I was looking forward to it. only problem was that my pc cannot play it and it isn't on PS3.
it seems to me like they did everything right and had a good product.
I wonder why so many people snubbed it.
it seems to me like they did everything right and had a good product.
I wonder why so many people snubbed it.
In more bad news, Funcom's Trond Aas is under investigation for insider trading:
Funcom CEO Faces Insider Trading Allegations
Funcom CEO Faces Insider Trading Allegations
Another victim of upper management if you ask me. Who decided to launch another boring generic MMO in a horrible window between two huge MMOs TOR and GW2?
I may be seeing it differently because something may have glitched on my end of things, but Secret World's lack of performance may have had something to do with the lack of info and -subsequently- buzz.
I mean, yeah, it got peoples interests but the game was announced a few years ago and asked us to go to their website, take a survey to see what group we'd be initiated in, asked us if we wanted to get updates on the game and them.. Nothing.
Even later when I signed up for updates AGAIN, I never got a single one.
Even leading up to the game itself, people were talking about it but it wasn't like anyone was setting it up to be this knockout hit. I mean, yeah, people said it was good, and refreshing, but other then that nothing I read about it seemed to (which still felt slim) really scream "BLOCKBUSTER!". The fact that the launch sorta came and went with little fanfare kinda proves it
Couple that with the fact EA is involved with it, seeing how things went with The Old Republic, and I think we could see why people didn't exactly flock.
I also hear the game seems very set up to go F2P at any moment, despite a full price tag and sub fee that sits on the client/game right now.. Doesn't sound exactly like something people will jump on when they can wait a half a year or so when the companies involved throw up their hands and make the transition.
Overall, best of luck to those laid off but they should feel kinda gypped, since it seems like they were almost set up to fail for a while now.
Side note: I do call BS on another article maybe a week or two ago where someone (can't remember who) claimed their problem was being up against other releases, stating that Guild Wars two was part of the direct reason, when GW2 came out like 2 months or so after Secret World. Even if GW2 stole people away, it was most likely because people were going to leave Secret World any way, specially since GW2 is a 1 time purchase and not a sub fee game.
I mean, yeah, it got peoples interests but the game was announced a few years ago and asked us to go to their website, take a survey to see what group we'd be initiated in, asked us if we wanted to get updates on the game and them.. Nothing.
Even later when I signed up for updates AGAIN, I never got a single one.
Even leading up to the game itself, people were talking about it but it wasn't like anyone was setting it up to be this knockout hit. I mean, yeah, people said it was good, and refreshing, but other then that nothing I read about it seemed to (which still felt slim) really scream "BLOCKBUSTER!". The fact that the launch sorta came and went with little fanfare kinda proves it
Couple that with the fact EA is involved with it, seeing how things went with The Old Republic, and I think we could see why people didn't exactly flock.
I also hear the game seems very set up to go F2P at any moment, despite a full price tag and sub fee that sits on the client/game right now.. Doesn't sound exactly like something people will jump on when they can wait a half a year or so when the companies involved throw up their hands and make the transition.
Overall, best of luck to those laid off but they should feel kinda gypped, since it seems like they were almost set up to fail for a while now.
Side note: I do call BS on another article maybe a week or two ago where someone (can't remember who) claimed their problem was being up against other releases, stating that Guild Wars two was part of the direct reason, when GW2 came out like 2 months or so after Secret World. Even if GW2 stole people away, it was most likely because people were going to leave Secret World any way, specially since GW2 is a 1 time purchase and not a sub fee game.
i dont get how they thought they can get away with a 50euro game + sub, when they saw how TOR crashlanded, despite having tons of dollars behind it.
Funcom just don't die before you can give us the next Longest Journey. Just stop making these terrible investments.
It's always tragic when a studio goes under. I hope the people laid off can find work.
I don't understand why some developers are trying to penetrate the MMO market when they not only have to establish a dedicated base, but compete with successful games that have loyal followers. Plus with the option of F2P on other MMOs, you would have to be outrageously good right out of the gate to even consider entering the market.
I don't understand why some developers are trying to penetrate the MMO market when they not only have to establish a dedicated base, but compete with successful games that have loyal followers. Plus with the option of F2P on other MMOs, you would have to be outrageously good right out of the gate to even consider entering the market.
said it from the start, the whole concept should have been a single player, deep RPG/action game, not an MMO. it should also have been on consoles.
the concept would have made a great single player horror/rpg/action experience.
the concept would have made a great single player horror/rpg/action experience.
Don't know the guy personally, and being laid off isn't fun, so I'm not going to make light of this. But based on what I'd seen of The Secret World, I can't say I respect him for his abilities.
Then again, for all we know, it could have been the producers or executives forcing the game down the toilet, as usual. Can't ever blame just one person. Always tons of factors involved.
Then again, for all we know, it could have been the producers or executives forcing the game down the toilet, as usual. Can't ever blame just one person. Always tons of factors involved.
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