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Skyrim is hurting me, because DS is amazing and Skyrim is amazing and I got to the bit with the archers and I was like I'm stuck and then Skyrim came and it was amazing and now I'm trying to have a life and play Skyrim and play Dark Souls and it's just I can't oh God oh Goddddddd...
#novembergeddon
#novembergeddon
"If you’re playing Dark Souls right now, you’re at one of these points:
1) Stuck at a bonfire right before boss.
2) Stuck trying to reach boss.
3) Tediously farming easy areas to build up your character to have a chance at either 1 or 2."
I'm at neither of those points, finished the game 5 times already. I'm just helping my cousins by dropping sign, and joining their game when they have problems with a boss.
I've completed this game to the max, the only other game that required such dedication from me this year was getting every achievement in Arkham City.
How come every reviewer had problems at Anor Londo....didn't anyone else have the Fog Ring and Slumbering Dragon Ring¿ Sure when you initially begin the game it's difficult, but if you made the proper choices and got to some soul farming forest early, then the game becomes easier.
During my NG++ or NG+++ I dressed my thief up as a Belmont...modified a whip weapon to have Divinity on it, and started trolling the Catacombs/Tomb of Giants.
Dark Souls is the maddest fun I've had this year.
1) Stuck at a bonfire right before boss.
2) Stuck trying to reach boss.
3) Tediously farming easy areas to build up your character to have a chance at either 1 or 2."
I'm at neither of those points, finished the game 5 times already. I'm just helping my cousins by dropping sign, and joining their game when they have problems with a boss.
I've completed this game to the max, the only other game that required such dedication from me this year was getting every achievement in Arkham City.
How come every reviewer had problems at Anor Londo....didn't anyone else have the Fog Ring and Slumbering Dragon Ring¿ Sure when you initially begin the game it's difficult, but if you made the proper choices and got to some soul farming forest early, then the game becomes easier.
During my NG++ or NG+++ I dressed my thief up as a Belmont...modified a whip weapon to have Divinity on it, and started trolling the Catacombs/Tomb of Giants.
Dark Souls is the maddest fun I've had this year.
I honestly could not believe that I beat the game when I reached the end. I thought it was a cruel trick, or that I had beaten a prologue of some kind. I raised Quelaag's Furysword in triumph and wept.
A beautiful, grueling, and worthwhile experience. Maybe not one for everyone, but I can't recommend it enough.
A beautiful, grueling, and worthwhile experience. Maybe not one for everyone, but I can't recommend it enough.
Why do people dwell on the difficulty of Dark Souls so much? I maintained all the way through the lifespan of Demon's and do for Dark Souls that's it's not difficult at all. It's a case of learning and skill. It's far from unfair in how it presents anything, other than the Anor Londo archers the article mentions, which is one moment in 2 games. If you play the game properly, you will get the knowledge you need to beat the game, and the skill to do it. If you quit in frustration the second time you die, you won't and it's not because the game is too hard, it's because you're not understanding what the games about. There are bigger problems with the game that that. Such as dodgy targeting, broken online, and FPS drops.
As for your 1,2,3 scenario. It's false across my NG+ game and my game 1 replay.
As for your 1,2,3 scenario. It's false across my NG+ game and my game 1 replay.
When I read "Demon’s Souls was probably the most mentally grueling experience of my life" I stopped reading.
You can't be serious can you? Have you been to university? Played sports? I have the sneaking suspicion that you haven't been taxed enough if that's the most mentally gruelling experience of your life, and I've played Demon's Souls.
Also, respectfully I think gruelling has two L's.
You can't be serious can you? Have you been to university? Played sports? I have the sneaking suspicion that you haven't been taxed enough if that's the most mentally gruelling experience of your life, and I've played Demon's Souls.
Also, respectfully I think gruelling has two L's.
I'll be honest, I'm about to finish up The Depths and I've been having no trouble with Dark Souls. Maybe it's because I found the Drake Sword pretty early on, but I've just been playing like normal, having a fun time, and killing pretty much any enemy with relative ease.
Of course, from what I've heard this is still relatively early in the game, so that might be part of it, but the only time I've ever had to retry a section over and over was when I went back to the Asylum and tried to fight the boss there way earlier than I should have. And that wasn't even necessary.
Of course, from what I've heard this is still relatively early in the game, so that might be part of it, but the only time I've ever had to retry a section over and over was when I went back to the Asylum and tried to fight the boss there way earlier than I should have. And that wasn't even necessary.
One of a kind IP. Fucking love it to death. Its like the entire world is joining forces to defeat this game through sheer information flooding. I hope that it stays alive for a very long time.
I spent 67 hours in beating Dark Souls.
There's a video over YouTube in which a speedrun was done in less than two hours.
How does THAT make me feel? Quite awesome, actually. Because Dark Souls is all about loving every fucking second of it, every second you spend dying, every second you spend trying to accomplish anything.
The slogan is "Prepare to die", and while I might be twisted, that slogan made me feel really anxious for this game. And I must not be the only one who for months waited anxiously to be KILLED COUNTLESS TIMES.
I finished Dark Souls two days ago, just in time for Skyrim. Haven't tried a NG+ yet. But I'll eventually go back to it. And it won't be the same, I know where the enemies are, how the map works, the basic things.
Learning is the substance and enjoyment of Dark Souls, and now I'm done with my playthrough. But fear not, lovely PS3, you shall not rest for too long.*
*Take or give 10000 hours of playing Skyrim.
There's a video over YouTube in which a speedrun was done in less than two hours.
How does THAT make me feel? Quite awesome, actually. Because Dark Souls is all about loving every fucking second of it, every second you spend dying, every second you spend trying to accomplish anything.
The slogan is "Prepare to die", and while I might be twisted, that slogan made me feel really anxious for this game. And I must not be the only one who for months waited anxiously to be KILLED COUNTLESS TIMES.
I finished Dark Souls two days ago, just in time for Skyrim. Haven't tried a NG+ yet. But I'll eventually go back to it. And it won't be the same, I know where the enemies are, how the map works, the basic things.
Learning is the substance and enjoyment of Dark Souls, and now I'm done with my playthrough. But fear not, lovely PS3, you shall not rest for too long.*
*Take or give 10000 hours of playing Skyrim.
I'm about 14-15 hours in and just reached Anor Londo. I haven't had any tough times so far. I haven't had to grind at all either. The game isn't that challenging if you just go slowly and never rush past a threshold that you can't clearly see past.
But I know exactly what you mean. This game just CONSUMES you. Everytime I quit the game it's because I'm making myself quit. I could, if given the time, play dark souls for hours on end. This is definitely fighting with Portal 2 for my goty.
But I know exactly what you mean. This game just CONSUMES you. Everytime I quit the game it's because I'm making myself quit. I could, if given the time, play dark souls for hours on end. This is definitely fighting with Portal 2 for my goty.
I love demon souls because of its great design, which makes it fun to play, not because it is "difficult".
That isn't to say it is an easy game, or I would have finished it by now. But I don't get why the difficulty is the one point people get hung up on. We enjoy it because it is a well made game, and if it weren't, then we wouldn't like it, no matter the difficulty.
That isn't to say it is an easy game, or I would have finished it by now. But I don't get why the difficulty is the one point people get hung up on. We enjoy it because it is a well made game, and if it weren't, then we wouldn't like it, no matter the difficulty.
I know how you feel man. I had to stoop to a new low when I gave up and glitched the Maneater in Demon's Souls... otherwise I would have lost my mind. It was a supreme feeling of accomplishment when I finally finished that game. I have always meant to go back and do it all over again using a different class... but who am I kidding?
Dark Souls is really awesome, but I am suffering from Overwhelming Backlog Syndrome. There are just too many goddamn games to play these days. Eventually I will accept that I just simply cannot play them all. Until then, I valiantly charge forward in my never-ending crusade to slay the Backlog Dragon... and Dark Souls stands as a considerable opponent in that quest.
Dark Souls is really awesome, but I am suffering from Overwhelming Backlog Syndrome. There are just too many goddamn games to play these days. Eventually I will accept that I just simply cannot play them all. Until then, I valiantly charge forward in my never-ending crusade to slay the Backlog Dragon... and Dark Souls stands as a considerable opponent in that quest.
It's not necessarily that the game itself is hard... It's like saying Megaman games are hard. They really aren't- it's all pattern recognition and once you know the patterns they're a cakewalk for the most part- likewise, DS is about pattern recognition and learning through failure.
That these games illicit the same responses as the old school NES games used to (IE: rifling through that Nintendo Power to see pages worth of megaman screenshots and instructions that detail the trials of a level) should clue you in that the design paradigm is neither new nor is it a daunting task. That said, it's really hard to make good progress an hour at a time.
If you're playing these games and expect to never die... you didn't pay attention to the website or the box for that matter. You know, where it says "Prepare to die."
It's not a warning, it's advice. Because you will die in these games.
That these games illicit the same responses as the old school NES games used to (IE: rifling through that Nintendo Power to see pages worth of megaman screenshots and instructions that detail the trials of a level) should clue you in that the design paradigm is neither new nor is it a daunting task. That said, it's really hard to make good progress an hour at a time.
If you're playing these games and expect to never die... you didn't pay attention to the website or the box for that matter. You know, where it says "Prepare to die."
It's not a warning, it's advice. Because you will die in these games.
This game is simply not that difficult. It's all about pattern memorization and stamina balancing. Yes, it's hard - I died surely over 100 times through my first playthrough - but I disagree with your delineated list of "points to be stuck at." Death by death, I was steadily progressing through the game, and never had to farm anything. I had devastating moments when I lost countless souls, again and again, then I realized people were managing entire runthroughs of the game at soul level 1. Souls are important for upgrades and such, but honestly not required.
Having played 30 hours of Skyrim and 20 of Skyward Sword in the past week, Dark Souls is still my prime candidate for GOTY. Pure, unadulterated, no hand holding, dark fantasy bliss.
Having played 30 hours of Skyrim and 20 of Skyward Sword in the past week, Dark Souls is still my prime candidate for GOTY. Pure, unadulterated, no hand holding, dark fantasy bliss.
I'm starting to think that Destructoid's staff is entirely composed of people who had never played a game before they started working for the site! Seriously, first Demon's Souls reviewer can't complete the game and now this guy makes it sound like Dark Souls is a grueling torture ritual?
Sure, both games are difficult, but the only reason they have this reputation as "the pinnacle of gaming difficulty" is because every modern game is ridiculously easy, to the point where some draw a line in front of you so you always know where to go or remove the possibility of failure altogether. Anyone who's been playing games at least since the PS1 days will find that yes, both Souls are difficult games, but far from the "this game will make you go crazy" hype.
In fact, if you, like me, go into these games expecting the most grueling experience of your gaming life, you might end up being surprised at how easy they are!!
Sure, both games are difficult, but the only reason they have this reputation as "the pinnacle of gaming difficulty" is because every modern game is ridiculously easy, to the point where some draw a line in front of you so you always know where to go or remove the possibility of failure altogether. Anyone who's been playing games at least since the PS1 days will find that yes, both Souls are difficult games, but far from the "this game will make you go crazy" hype.
In fact, if you, like me, go into these games expecting the most grueling experience of your gaming life, you might end up being surprised at how easy they are!!
I relate to the experience because it is exactly why I haven't picked yo dark souls. Demons souls is still sitting on my shelf unfinished because of the research I found goes into each area if you don't want to spend a trillion hours.
If I had some Inception machine that would allow me to sink a lifetime into the game in the span of a few hours I feel like I might be able to finish it. Until then, there's skyrim.
I think the game's difficulty partly lies in the fact that some things simply CANNOT be done without certain knowledge. No amount of trials will help you succeed if you don't have the right equipment or tactics.
That being said, the greatest thing about the difficulty is that a lot of it lies in human error. If you go slowly and defensively and stop trying to play modern souls warfare you will succeed much more often because you learn and grow as a player. One of the reasons its hard to leave this game for a while and then come back to is that it requires a very particular, methodic playstyle that is simply not seen in other games. And without that patience and method you will get nowhere.
Demons souls is one of my favorite games of all time even though, as I said, it is still very much unfinished for me.
Now excuse me I must get back to my newest favorite game of all time-out skyrim.
hrua hrua HRUA!
If I had some Inception machine that would allow me to sink a lifetime into the game in the span of a few hours I feel like I might be able to finish it. Until then, there's skyrim.
I think the game's difficulty partly lies in the fact that some things simply CANNOT be done without certain knowledge. No amount of trials will help you succeed if you don't have the right equipment or tactics.
That being said, the greatest thing about the difficulty is that a lot of it lies in human error. If you go slowly and defensively and stop trying to play modern souls warfare you will succeed much more often because you learn and grow as a player. One of the reasons its hard to leave this game for a while and then come back to is that it requires a very particular, methodic playstyle that is simply not seen in other games. And without that patience and method you will get nowhere.
Demons souls is one of my favorite games of all time even though, as I said, it is still very much unfinished for me.
Now excuse me I must get back to my newest favorite game of all time-out skyrim.
hrua hrua HRUA!
I seriously don't understand how people have such a hard time with these games. The strategy is pretty cut and dry, almost scientific. If you do this, you win; if you do this, you die. Are people simply not paying attention?
Anyway, my only gripe with Dark Souls is it's lack of direction. You just explore for the sake of exploring, which is fine since the world is so incredibly designed, but I really wish there was a REASON to go one way or the other. As amazing as these games are, an epic story would make them outshine anything else in the genre (for me, at least... maybe not Skyrim, though).
But as far as the combat and difficulty, nothing else compares for me. From Software nails it, and I don't want them to change a single thing.
Anyway, my only gripe with Dark Souls is it's lack of direction. You just explore for the sake of exploring, which is fine since the world is so incredibly designed, but I really wish there was a REASON to go one way or the other. As amazing as these games are, an epic story would make them outshine anything else in the genre (for me, at least... maybe not Skyrim, though).
But as far as the combat and difficulty, nothing else compares for me. From Software nails it, and I don't want them to change a single thing.
Dark Souls is the most satisfying game I've ever played. It and Demon's Souls are the only games that I felt I had to get the Platinum Trophy. My game save file is almost at 300 hours. The game is crack and I'm happily addicted.
In before the usual crowd going I DUNNO MAN MAYBE YOU JUST HAVE A TINY PENIS BECAUSE THIS SHIT WAS TOO EASY FOR ME, I JUST SLAP THE CONTROLLER WITH MY DICK AND THE BOSSES KNOW WHO THEY'RE FUCKING WITH, APOLOGIZE, AND GIVE ME DOUBLE LOOT.
Oh wait, too late.
Oh wait, too late.
The archers really aren't that bad. Those arrows move so slow they're easy to avoid until you're within melee range and the ledge is so narrow they just fall off after you hit them a few times.
Nice Read here. I'm now 40 Hours into the Game and had my first try on the Boss of Anor Londo today. I bought Skyrim 2 Days ago but just can't seem to play it because DS is waiting every time I look at my PS3. It really is making me want to spend time with it.
Actually, DS is the only game I can think of this year that was worth the Money I spend for it. I just came seem to focus on games anymore. But DS is able to grab my attention and I'm pretty sure I'm going to finish it sooner or later.
Actually, DS is the only game I can think of this year that was worth the Money I spend for it. I just came seem to focus on games anymore. But DS is able to grab my attention and I'm pretty sure I'm going to finish it sooner or later.
@dragoonkin
Lol I was thinking the same thing. He even mentions people like that kinda in the article but they still storm in to use their huge dicks as an example of why everyone should have a huge dick too. Some people have small dicks, and that's okay.
Lol I was thinking the same thing. He even mentions people like that kinda in the article but they still storm in to use their huge dicks as an example of why everyone should have a huge dick too. Some people have small dicks, and that's okay.
Marketing really seems to have brought out the "Drama Queens" when it comes to Dark Souls (and Demon's Souls by a lesser extend).
These games are not amazingly difficult. It's just unforgiving. If you were playing before 2000 you would probably have played many similairly unforgiving games.
However, I'll still yield that this article was a good read.
These games are not amazingly difficult. It's just unforgiving. If you were playing before 2000 you would probably have played many similairly unforgiving games.
However, I'll still yield that this article was a good read.
I, like quite a few of these comments don't find Dark Souls all that grueling. It is simply the five stages of conquering Dark Souls:
1.Trepidation, entering an unknown area, or boss room and being destroyed quickly or surviving long enough to reach stage 2.
2.Fear. When you know the basics of the new area or what the boss looks like and don't want to loose all your souls and humnaity by dying twice. You may still be alive.
3.Determination, having either died or stuck around long enough you fight and fight until you either head back or push forward to the next bonfire or deal the final blow.
4.Euthoria. When you did it! You killed Seath the scaleless even ripping off his tale, destroyed Priscilla the good natured abomination who thought she could hide, cut off her tail too for good measure.
5.Realisation. You have to do it all over again and again even through new game +.
Seems a shame when reviewers focus on the first two.
Oh and 6.Get invaded and have an intense battle i which you die and lose it all anyway.
1.Trepidation, entering an unknown area, or boss room and being destroyed quickly or surviving long enough to reach stage 2.
2.Fear. When you know the basics of the new area or what the boss looks like and don't want to loose all your souls and humnaity by dying twice. You may still be alive.
3.Determination, having either died or stuck around long enough you fight and fight until you either head back or push forward to the next bonfire or deal the final blow.
4.Euthoria. When you did it! You killed Seath the scaleless even ripping off his tale, destroyed Priscilla the good natured abomination who thought she could hide, cut off her tail too for good measure.
5.Realisation. You have to do it all over again and again even through new game +.
Seems a shame when reviewers focus on the first two.
Oh and 6.Get invaded and have an intense battle i which you die and lose it all anyway.
Good game and i understand his feeling... When im "sad" about the game, i cant play it for days. Like i just lost 7 humanity and 16 000 in Anor... lol on a place that i could not escape really ( blessing divine item .. i think )
A sad amount of hours in to gaming? You know people put the same amount of hours in to other hobbies, But somehow that isnt considered sad?
youre only putting gaming down with that statement, As if its a waste of time.
youre only putting gaming down with that statement, As if its a waste of time.
Love Dark Souls, if you are patient and smart in how to attack... the only MAJOR hurdle are the big bosses
@ren
I think console era games, especially increasingly modern ones, are increasingly forgiving because they want you to keep playing. Arcade and early console games coming from arcades were so unforgiving because the incentive to punch more quarters in was a driving factor.
With consoles, the quarters have been punched so to speak and so games became forgiving so as to let players experience full games. With this comes the entry and focus on storytelling in games. Obviously new focus on dlc and paid after-market content complicates or perhaps even regresses the argument but it is a different argument.
So in context I think the game is difficult. Few if any other console games take this approach to difficulty and while it may not be original as you point it, it is refreshing among the rest of the market today.
That being said, I don't think anyone claiming this game is easier than others may think is valid. Like all games but especially here we can see that the difficulty of a game is subjective to the player. Even a gaming master who has played them since the saw can have more or less difficulty with any given game.
I think console era games, especially increasingly modern ones, are increasingly forgiving because they want you to keep playing. Arcade and early console games coming from arcades were so unforgiving because the incentive to punch more quarters in was a driving factor.
With consoles, the quarters have been punched so to speak and so games became forgiving so as to let players experience full games. With this comes the entry and focus on storytelling in games. Obviously new focus on dlc and paid after-market content complicates or perhaps even regresses the argument but it is a different argument.
So in context I think the game is difficult. Few if any other console games take this approach to difficulty and while it may not be original as you point it, it is refreshing among the rest of the market today.
That being said, I don't think anyone claiming this game is easier than others may think is valid. Like all games but especially here we can see that the difficulty of a game is subjective to the player. Even a gaming master who has played them since the saw can have more or less difficulty with any given game.
"It isn't really that hard. All you have to do is play it and die enough times to recognize the patterns, get good timing, not die, because you only have three chances. It's just like all other games, it follows a strict set of rules and punished you a lot when you fail, and then sends you back to a gauntlet of enemies you may or may not have remembered how to fight before a boss that can and will kill you in three hits. Pussy." (Also, I was able to get through X because I read a guide on how everyone else got through X or where the secret really good weapon is, instead of figuring it out myself. I'm such a good gamer guys)
I feel like the bonfires are the games biggest setback. I beat demons souls 5 times. This game isnt that hard after the first hour. So if there weren't any bonfires I would have probably beaten it by now.
This was a really good read. I enjoyed it quite a lot more than actually playing the game. It's hard indeed (or unforgiving might be better). But that's not it. It's such a special game that I guess either you love it or you just don't care. I personally don't really care much for it. But that has got nothing to do with the quality of the game. It's just a personal taste. But I do love to hear others talk about it. It's a lot more fun to hear people talk about how in the world they defeated such and such boss or enemies.
In short: Great read!
In short: Great read!
The sad reality is namco needs to release the 1.04/1.05 patches to the rest of the world before friggin xmas! Darl souls has a lot of bugs/glitches/exploits that need taken care of. Dark souls has the potential to be one of the best of all time once the kinks are worked out.
"It's not difficult at all, as long as you have enough skill" seems to be a bizarre stupid message repeated by certain people. Well, no shit. I haven't even played either of the games in the series, but I've played games with similarly legendary difficulty and encountered this kind of shit before. There are things that require no skill (blinking your eyes), thinks that are impossible (swimming to the moon) and everything in between requires anything in between "a little skill" to "a lot of skill". The higher the skill requirement, the less people will either start with that skill level or be able to attain that skill level (e.g. no matter how much you practice, most people will never be as good as football as Pele was, or as good at sculpture as Michelangelo, etc) and therefore the experience is described as being increasingly hard.
It is not impossible to hit a moving, rotating bullseye with an arrow from 400 metres away in a strong sidewards wind, but it requires more skill than most will ever have in archery, so it is said to be "fucking difficult". But you'd just say "No, it's simply down to point the arrow in the correct direction and releasing it at the correct time". Just because you already have that skill level, or gained that skill level in a reasonable timeframe, it doesn't mean it isn't hard. A brain surgeon would not insist that brain surgery is easy and that people that can't do it are "noobs". It feels like the typical guy online is more interested in pointing out how fucking "1337" they are, and totally fail to grasp the meaning of basic words like "hard" or "difficult"; it's not hard guys, these words are pretty simple but I guess you just don't have the skill needed to understand words because you're noobs to language.
It is not impossible to hit a moving, rotating bullseye with an arrow from 400 metres away in a strong sidewards wind, but it requires more skill than most will ever have in archery, so it is said to be "fucking difficult". But you'd just say "No, it's simply down to point the arrow in the correct direction and releasing it at the correct time". Just because you already have that skill level, or gained that skill level in a reasonable timeframe, it doesn't mean it isn't hard. A brain surgeon would not insist that brain surgery is easy and that people that can't do it are "noobs". It feels like the typical guy online is more interested in pointing out how fucking "1337" they are, and totally fail to grasp the meaning of basic words like "hard" or "difficult"; it's not hard guys, these words are pretty simple but I guess you just don't have the skill needed to understand words because you're noobs to language.
I cleared DS first time few days ago and now I'm literally running through the NG+ with almost no problems at all.
First run took me 86 hours complete including about 20 hours I used to farm titanite pieces to make "elemental" weapons and couple of boss soul weapons. My first run had couple of grueling moments where I would basically shout at myself for being goddamn idiot about rolling in wrong direction and getting killed in a boss fight with boss one hit away from death.
Still, Dark Souls is the most rewarding game I've played since Demons Souls and definitely the best game of this console generation.
First run took me 86 hours complete including about 20 hours I used to farm titanite pieces to make "elemental" weapons and couple of boss soul weapons. My first run had couple of grueling moments where I would basically shout at myself for being goddamn idiot about rolling in wrong direction and getting killed in a boss fight with boss one hit away from death.
Still, Dark Souls is the most rewarding game I've played since Demons Souls and definitely the best game of this console generation.
First off, thanks for all the comments! It's what makes writing in an online spectrum fun.
Im glad to see a lot of posters understood what I was getting at. I ne'er said the game is the next thing to impossible...I beat it, so obviously I'm not going to take that stance. Instead I was just trying to articulate what DS turns a causal gamer into if they wish to succeed at the game.
And I'm standing by my stance: it IS hard. I agree, it's a game of mastering patterns and enemy locations but that in itself isn't a fundamentally easy thing to execute for 98% of gamers.
Im glad to see a lot of posters understood what I was getting at. I ne'er said the game is the next thing to impossible...I beat it, so obviously I'm not going to take that stance. Instead I was just trying to articulate what DS turns a causal gamer into if they wish to succeed at the game.
And I'm standing by my stance: it IS hard. I agree, it's a game of mastering patterns and enemy locations but that in itself isn't a fundamentally easy thing to execute for 98% of gamers.
I don't have enough time to play games that actually take effort and thought to play, it eats my soul from the inside out.
Personally, I have a really hard time with this game. I like games with a world that makes sense, and you feel like you can gain an understanding of it just by playing through it a lot. I didn't get this feeling from Dark Souls (or Demon's Souls much either). It seems like there are so many areas that almost REQUIRE you to look at a walkthrough or some kind of guide in order to figure out how to get past them. In fact, the game doesn't do a good job of explaining how to play it or how things work. The bonfires aren't explained very well, nor is what happens when kindling them.
I understand that they wanted to make the game challenging, but if I have to rely on a guide or walkthrough just to understand how the mechanics of the game work, it really takes the fun out of it for me. I don't want them to hold my hand or anything, but I do want a clear explanation on how things work. Even with the difficulty and being ignorant about how so many things work, I still have a lot of fun playing it... before I get frustrated and quite for a few hours/days.
I understand that they wanted to make the game challenging, but if I have to rely on a guide or walkthrough just to understand how the mechanics of the game work, it really takes the fun out of it for me. I don't want them to hold my hand or anything, but I do want a clear explanation on how things work. Even with the difficulty and being ignorant about how so many things work, I still have a lot of fun playing it... before I get frustrated and quite for a few hours/days.
@Jeffrey
"I agree, it's a game of mastering patterns and enemy locations but that in itself isn't a fundamentally easy thing to execute for 98% of gamers."
Occupy Blight Town! We are the 98%!
"I agree, it's a game of mastering patterns and enemy locations but that in itself isn't a fundamentally easy thing to execute for 98% of gamers."
Occupy Blight Town! We are the 98%!
Demon Soul's is going to be the death of me. I bought the game a couple of months ago..and I believe I am already defeated
I decided to put it down for a bit and try again later I got way more stressed than I should have and just could not focus so I bought something else until I build the courage to try that asshole game again
I decided to put it down for a bit and try again later I got way more stressed than I should have and just could not focus so I bought something else until I build the courage to try that asshole game again
I definitely am in the 98% and I have no qualms with that!
What's funny is a lot of these posters are claiming it's not difficult even though they freedly admit dying a ton of times.
I know that's part of the Dark Souls fabric but an abundance of repeated failings throughout the game tells me it's much easier to make the 'it's hard as fuck argument' than the counter to that.
What's funny is a lot of these posters are claiming it's not difficult even though they freedly admit dying a ton of times.
I know that's part of the Dark Souls fabric but an abundance of repeated failings throughout the game tells me it's much easier to make the 'it's hard as fuck argument' than the counter to that.
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